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  • Neerajvayu
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    After 2nd service RTR will be butter smooth, don't worry
    Ride safe

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  • vinayus
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    Originally posted by Neerajvayu View Post
    Excellent decision bro RTR160 is awesome bike it will never get you down.
    Wish you safe riding, buy a good helmet and Buzz the road
    Congratulations
    Originally posted by krishna77 View Post
    Congrats for your bike in advance!
    Originally posted by abhishek_jain View Post
    RTR 160 will be my suggestion as its a proven bike. It will get you a millage of 45+ easily. Its maintenance is also light on the pocket.
    Thank you so much for all the suggestions.
    Well so far I have done 330km(7 days old). <50kmph no vibrations but around 49kmph I feel a sense of vibrations are gonna start but I intend to ignore. Haven't driven more than that for now. And during this stage I'm getting 54+ mileage which I tested with 500rs petrol method with same quantity. So far happy and enjoying ride.

    Wonder why this thread is still open.

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  • abhishek_jain
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    Originally posted by vinayus View Post
    Hello everyone,

    I am planning to buy a bike around Aug-Sep. I have confusion in choosing bike; below are few pointers of me.
    1. I'm 5.4ft tall, 55kg, 26years old
    2. Will use bike to travel 50-60km in a day(weekdays, no major travel on weekends)
    3. Roads include city 40%, village roads 60%
    4. Budget around 1lakh(cheaper is better)
    5. Expected mileage around 35-45
    6. Not a rash rider at all.
    7. Very rare long distance travel(Once in 3 months)
    8. Love naked bikes only

    After seeing around, my shortlist includes 3 bikes TVS Apache RTR 160 Matte Blue, TVS Apache RTR 200 4v Matte Black and Suzuki Gixxer dual paint scheme.
    I will be using the bike for a very long run (5-6 years) and would expect minimum maintenance being light on pocket. My main requirements are trouble-free smooth ride and bike seat-height with respect to my height. This will be first bike purchase from my own money, so no place for regrets but can wait if any new upgrades are on the horizon.
    So would love to hear few suggestions especially from the owners of above bikes.
    Kindly help me.

    Thanks in advance.

    PS: Helmet, bike gear advice is also welcome(links to those are appreciated). Apart from Honda CB Hornet 160R other bike suggestions are welcome as well.
    RTR 160 will be my suggestion as its a proven bike. It will get you a millage of 45+ easily. Its maintenance is also light on the pocket.

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  • krishna77
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    Congrats for your bike in advance!

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  • Neerajvayu
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    Excellent decision bro RTR160 is awesome bike it will never get you down.
    Wish you safe riding, buy a good helmet and Buzz the road
    Congratulations

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  • vinayus
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    Originally posted by Neerajvayu View Post
    So which one finally you decided?
    So here's the final lengthy update.

    Over the many weeks, I took 12 test rides totally.
    In ascending order:

    Started trying out bikes with a neutral mind;
    Gixxer RD - Took this twice, I loved the bike but bad pillion made it as my 2nd priority. Weight was even.
    SZ-RR - Took this as first test ride, smooth but didn't bring me smile during test. So out of shortlist. Felt light but little tall sensation for me.
    FZ v2.0 - Bike was smooth as SZ actually better but I didn't like styling so gave it 4th priority. Braking was bad in my opinion.
    Hornet CBS - Test rode thrice. Looks tick. Performance tick even though in traffic I had to switch gears regularly. Price felt as not value for it(personal opinion). So gave this 3rd priority for comfort and love of smooth.
    Bajaj V - Felt very commuterish but somehow made me consider this over Pulsar. Gave this 5th priority. After this ride Unicorn was out so didn't even opt.
    Duke - Definitely not for my style of riding. I could only tip-toe and felt power is too much for someone like me. So out of shortlist.
    RTR200 - Felt very nice. Brought me same smile as Hornet. But again tip-toeing in traffic plus long waiting period. Took this twice on 2 occasion. 2nd ride made me feel heavy and somehow was not wowed. So out of shortlist.
    RTR160 - Service center somehow allowed me for a longer test ride(I took it for 2km). Rode on empty roads to signals and legs were in ease access. Vibrations do exist on right handlebar but nothing like people saying in Internet. Plus I still remember my friends old model(2009) which had no vibrations. So gave this 1st priority.

    PS: Didn't consider RTR180 just to save mileage since I generally ride in 40-70kmph.
    So I felt every bike has a flaw/demerit and we just have to deal with it and select what is suitable for personal choice based on what we can compromise.

    Round 2: deciding bike;
    Took top 3: Gixxer, Hornet, RTR160.
    After lot of thinking, browsing and meeting regular users of those who use these made me totally confused. Wasted almost a week.
    Adding parents and siblings to more confusion.

    Round 3: To eliminate one bike
    For me I felt pillion seat comfort will be important atleast to take my mom or dad, so Gixxer was gone for that reason sadly even though it gave me smiles.

    Today:
    After sound nice comforting sleep, around 10am I was out for vegetables and some stuffs. On the way, went to TVS showroom; booked RTR160 Matte Blue with Rear disk. Sales man was in confusion seeing me with a bag of vegetables and in shorts having messy hair. He asked me if I want to go for another ride which I said no. He said bike shall be available on Friday itself but since I have other commitments I informed him that I shall take on Sunday.
    I paid 23000 as initial booking. Rest 70000 I will pay later. Total cost included everything from ind plate to accessories. Sales guy took me inside and showed me accessories and asked to pick if anything additional I need for free. I said I would take Helmet Lock as extra which was not included in standard list mentioned by him.

    I just felt that my heart was on RTR160 and wasted all these days(weeks :P ) thinking of something else. I don't know if listening to heart over brain is right choice or not in this. But I always went over my heart whether its mobile or laptop or shoes so I hope this doesn't backfire.

    Few hours back:
    Since I needed Helmet, went near Lalbagh. After seeing in 2 shops I selected Studds Shifter Helmet. No bargain was possible, he billed me 1950 after hard trying and irritating. Helmet goes very well with Matte Blue so kinda feels matching.

    Now from now on, only bike maintenance I hope from break-in to kilometers to come.
    Thanks to everyone who helped me over these days. I wish I can thank individually but there are many.

    Admins can close thread.
    Last edited by vinayus; 10-12-2016, 06:56 PM.

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  • Neerajvayu
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    So which one finally you decided?

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  • Neerajvayu
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    Originally posted by vinayus View Post
    @Neerajvayu Thank you so much for your advice. Very true.
    Few days back I rode old RTR 160, I didn't feel vibs so as @JS16 suggested it should be ok with current series I hope.
    But before dropping RTR200 I atleast want to give a test drive so I won't regret later.

    No updates regarding bike test/choice over these many days because of my troubled hectic life. Shall update when possible.
    Hopefully by September-mid I should be clear with my choice.

    On other note can we ask for 2nd test drive from same dealer for same bike?? Or should try with other dealer or its not allowed??

    Thanks everyone.
    I think go to some other dealer and show them that you are so enthusiastic to buy one but do a test ride without pillion.
    I feel RTR 200 heave in right hand side

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  • vinayus
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    Originally posted by Neerajvayu View Post
    Bro go for RTR 160/180,
    RTR 200 is for tall guys and being 5.4" you will struggle, don't be emotional by its look but take a wise decision is all i would say.
    Yes 180 has vibration but that should not be deal broker, tell me how many times you would revv it that much hard.
    [MENTION=83277]Neerajvayu[/MENTION] Thank you so much for your advice. Very true.
    Few days back I rode old RTR 160, I didn't feel vibs so as [MENTION=76522]JS16[/MENTION] suggested it should be ok with current series I hope.
    But before dropping RTR200 I atleast want to give a test drive so I won't regret later.

    No updates regarding bike test/choice over these many days because of my troubled hectic life. Shall update when possible.
    Hopefully by September-mid I should be clear with my choice.

    On other note can we ask for 2nd test drive from same dealer for same bike?? Or should try with other dealer or its not allowed??

    Thanks everyone.

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  • Neerajvayu
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    Originally posted by JS16 View Post
    If you are ok with that type of vibrations it's good then. If you have an option to buy a 200cc bike, what are you waiting for? :P
    Bro go for RTR 160/180,
    RTR 200 is for tall guys and being 5.4" you will struggle, don't be emotional by its look but take a wise decision is all i would say.
    Yes 180 has vibration but that should not be deal broker, tell me how many times you would revv it that much hard.

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  • JS16
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    Originally posted by vinayus View Post
    Thanks a lot @rugved . I have taken SZ-RR. Will check the possibilities for others too.

    This weekend I rode my friend's RTR160(old model, 2009) and Hornet(while returning) for a drive(60km).

    I felt both are good. But Hornet brake legging was something which my leg was not satisfied, felt my right leg was pushed forcibly back(nothing major troublesome just a feeling). RTR160 old model I didn't feel that.
    Old model and New model has any difference with respect to this?
    @JS16 I don't know, but somehow while riding bike I didn't feel any vibrations on RTR160 either on legs or wrist. Might be because of enthusiasm with friends and not worried about it or is it because I was constantly around 70-90 speed?

    Update:
    Still I didn't find a place nearby for taking test drive for RTR200. But local TVS dealer told me these when I visited:
    ->On road RTR200 carb, tvs tyres is 109750. He said accessories included but I doubt him.
    ->ABS might come within September even though he wasn't sure though.
    ->ABS can be added later for a cost of around 15k, again not sure by him regarding price.
    ->After booking I can get bike in 10days.

    Since Honda dealer is nearby I just gave a visit.
    ->STD variant Hornet 160r will cost 98700+Accessories
    ->1 month waiting period
    ->No plans for engine killswitch or switchgear upgrade.
    ->She told me to buy Unicorn 160 which is 5000rs less and can be delivered in 24-48hrs for which I said no.

    So after all these, now my shortlist is
    RTR200, RTR160, Hornet 160r, SZ-RR in the order.

    Since my plan to buy is around August_End<-->Mid_September, I'm still confused.
    Never thought choosing bike is this hard. I think I rather write my degree exams again.

    Shall keep this thread updated. Thanks in advance.

    PS: Didn't get chance to check bike gear. Made some Vega and LS2 helmet online search.
    A friend of mine suggested Skully AR1. Its wow but again felt out of my budget.
    If you are ok with that type of vibrations it's good then. If you have an option to buy a 200cc bike, what are you waiting for? :P

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  • vinayus
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    Originally posted by rugved View Post
    When you say 50-60 Kms in a day, for each day of week, (assuming all city drive, so traffic unavoidabe) then seating comfort becomes utmost priority.
    You have limited your choices to only 2 bikes so far (3 variants ). This being your first bike, I would suggest to you to take more test drives test drive on more bikes and explore all options and then make an informed choice.
    Originally posted by JS16 View Post
    @vinayus The vibs aren't more or less the same on both 160/180. And they aren't anything you cannot live with :P
    Thanks a lot @rugved . I have taken SZ-RR. Will check the possibilities for others too.

    This weekend I rode my friend's RTR160(old model, 2009) and Hornet(while returning) for a drive(60km).

    I felt both are good. But Hornet brake legging was something which my leg was not satisfied, felt my right leg was pushed forcibly back(nothing major troublesome just a feeling). RTR160 old model I didn't feel that.
    Old model and New model has any difference with respect to this?
    @JS16 I don't know, but somehow while riding bike I didn't feel any vibrations on RTR160 either on legs or wrist. Might be because of enthusiasm with friends and not worried about it or is it because I was constantly around 70-90 speed?

    Update:
    Still I didn't find a place nearby for taking test drive for RTR200. But local TVS dealer told me these when I visited:
    ->On road RTR200 carb, tvs tyres is 109750. He said accessories included but I doubt him.
    ->ABS might come within September even though he wasn't sure though.
    ->ABS can be added later for a cost of around 15k, again not sure by him regarding price.
    ->After booking I can get bike in 10days.

    Since Honda dealer is nearby I just gave a visit.
    ->STD variant Hornet 160r will cost 98700+Accessories
    ->1 month waiting period
    ->No plans for engine killswitch or switchgear upgrade.
    ->She told me to buy Unicorn 160 which is 5000rs less and can be delivered in 24-48hrs for which I said no.

    So after all these, now my shortlist is
    RTR200, RTR160, Hornet 160r, SZ-RR in the order.

    Since my plan to buy is around August_End<-->Mid_September, I'm still confused.
    Never thought choosing bike is this hard. I think I rather write my degree exams again.

    Shall keep this thread updated. Thanks in advance.

    PS: Didn't get chance to check bike gear. Made some Vega and LS2 helmet online search.
    A friend of mine suggested Skully AR1. Its wow but again felt out of my budget.
    Last edited by vinayus; 07-26-2016, 05:51 PM.

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  • JS16
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    [MENTION=85167]vinayus[/MENTION] The vibs aren't more or less the same on both 160/180. And they aren't anything you cannot live with :P

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  • rugved
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    Originally posted by vinayus View Post
    Hello everyone,

    I am planning to buy a bike around Aug-Sep. I have confusion in choosing bike; below are few pointers of me.
    1. I'm 5.4ft tall, 55kg, 26years old
    2. Will use bike to travel 50-60km in a day(weekdays, no major travel on weekends)
    3. Roads include city 40%, village roads 60%
    4. Budget around 1lakh(cheaper is better)
    5. Expected mileage around 35-45
    6. Not a rash rider at all.
    7. Very rare long distance travel(Once in 3 months)
    8. Love naked bikes only

    After seeing around, my shortlist includes 3 bikes TVS Apache RTR 160 Matte Blue, TVS Apache RTR 200 4v Matte Black and Suzuki Gixxer dual paint scheme.
    I will be using the bike for a very long run (5-6 years) and would expect minimum maintenance being light on pocket. My main requirements are trouble-free smooth ride and bike seat-height with respect to my height. This will be first bike purchase from my own money, so no place for regrets but can wait if any new upgrades are on the horizon.
    So would love to hear few suggestions especially from the owners of above bikes.
    Kindly help me.

    Thanks in advance.

    PS: Helmet, bike gear advice is also welcome(links to those are appreciated). Apart from Honda CB Hornet 160R other bike suggestions are welcome as well.
    When you say 50-60 Kms in a day, for each day of week, (assuming all city drive, so traffic unavoidabe) then seating comfort becomes utmost priority.
    You have limited your choices to only 2 bikes so far (3 variants ). This being your first bike, I would suggest to you to take more test drives test drive on more bikes and explore all options and then make an informed choice.

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  • vinayus
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    Originally posted by JS16 View Post
    Hello.
    I would suggest you the RTR180 abs.

    Reasons I chose the 180ABS Over 200.
    1. The seat height of the 180 is lesser than the 200. The 200 is a much taller bike and I've seen short people struggling to rest their feet on the ground.
    2. ABS over standard.
    3. Price. 1L (ABS) vs 1.10(Without ABS).
    4. Can take up quiet a beating. And easy to maintain.
    5. Cheap spares and availability as of now.

    Cons :
    1. Vibrations (Nothing severe). But yes, present.
    2. Older generation product.
    3. Looks are subjective, but The 200 is a beautiful looking bike.

    Also, in jackets you can try Rynox Tornado Pro. Good quality jacket.
    @JS16 I am kinda worried about vibrations of RTR 180, if not I would've preferred RTR 160 by now. I love both 160/180 but vibrations and old engine is my concern and nothing else. I have noted the jacket you mentioned, I did like it.

    Originally posted by Dandamudi Mohan Krishna View Post
    You seem to be pretty clear on your requirements so here's my suggestion.
    Among your choices RTR 200 seems a better bet so far we haven't heard about any major issues but the doubts of being perfect cannot be ruled out yet.
    Apart from that its bang for the buck but not sure it can give 35-45 kmpl upto 40 yes beyond 40 may not be possible.

    Since you also mentioned other bike suggestions are welcome my current favorite in the segment is Honda Hornet being a Honda you will get one of the best engines money can buy but, also Hondas have bad quality plastics and electrical (I own cbr250 I know a thing or 2) nothing major but if you compare in competition they don't last long as rivals but you won't be disappointed by your purchase. Its like buying one of those Oneplus smartphones which are as good as top end smartphones but has few omissions.
    Thanks a lot for helping. But I am avoiding Hornet because of looks and price.

    Originally posted by krishna77 View Post
    Have a look at SZ-RR. Very underrated bike. Won't give you power like an Apache but rides and ownership experience would be smoother.
    A basic Spartan jacket(Nemesis/Helios) will cost you anything around 7.5-8K. Aspida is a good semi gauntlet glove and will cost you around 2.2K. Studds Shifter helmet is around 2K.
    @krishna77 I did look at SZ-RR, its now into my shortlist. I loved the bike being smooth. The things which I didn't like is looks. I feel power is ok for my kinda riding. Seat height is something I might have to get used to, feels a bit tall(I use Scooty Zest these days). Jacket and glove didn't check yet. Helmet seems good. Just wanted to know which brand seems better? Here I see people using LS2 and Studds evenly. If same I can shortlist based on looks.

    So far these are my shortlist: SZ-RR, RTR 200, RTR 160. Thanks a lot for your time.
    Since I have a long time(upto Oct) to buy, I shall try RTR 200 ABS before finalizing. Shall keep updating when things change.
    Last edited by vinayus; 07-19-2016, 02:41 PM.

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