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  • #16
    @ketansrihas: my first advice to you would be to wait for 2-3 months if possible.
    If you can not wait then as per your req the P220 is out of the list as you are looking for a reliable bike. Between Zma and R15 I would recommend R15 as it has better fuel economy(40+always), much better handling and braking. There is hardly any difference in pickup and topspeed between Zma and R15 but P220 is definately faster than both.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by surbhit View Post
      @ketansrihas: my first advice to you would be to wait for 2-3 months if possible.
      If you can not wait then as per your req the P220 is out of the list as you are looking for a reliable bike. Between Zma and R15 I would recommend R15 as it has better fuel economy(40+always), much better handling and braking. There is hardly any difference in pickup and topspeed between Zma and R15 but P220 is definately faster than both.
      I beg to differ here Surbhit. I agree that P220 is faster than both ZMA&R15, but R15 has the highest top speed. Pickup certainly P220 wins hands down.
      Anyways, I don't mean to start a debate here.
      @ketansrihas: If you have the moolah, go for the R15. It is a marvellous piece of engineering. Of course, like every other bike, it does have its flaws, but there are ways&means to cope with them too!
      Quench my thirst with gasoline!

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      • #18
        The prob i heard in R15 is the chain .
        Its so delicate and the chain must be lubed for every 500kms and is it easy to DIY the lubrication
        Last edited by ketansrihas; 04-22-2009, 05:05 PM.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Aditya-biking pro View Post
          Go ahead for the R15.......if 220 & ZMA don't suits ur build........
          The upcoming Apache RTR 180 Menace would also be a good option.
          Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post
          Wait for the RTR 180.
          @ Ketan: As Said By Aditya Go For R15 If You Don't Look For Budget
          & If You Want A Different Bike Wait For RTR 180 Said By Sarvajit
          If Any Doubt Search In What Bike Section For My Thread Target ?
          Though I Didn't Include ZMA Insted Of That RTR 160 FI Were You Said City Riding & Lil Touring I Suggest TVS APACHE RTR\FI(160 Even 180)(Not On Your List)

          Ps: What's Your Height & Weight ?
          Failure should never go to heart & success should never go to head,both makes a person to fall in life-Winston Churchill


          Yesterday is history.
          Tomorrow is a mystery.
          Today is a gift, That is why it is called \"Present\".

          Enjoy every moment.

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          • #20
            Wait for RTR180, it has the potential to put some heavyweights to shame...
            or if you are eager to buy http://bikeindia.in/reviews/shootout...orce/Post.aspx
            Last edited by saif71184; 04-22-2009, 10:07 PM.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by ketansrihas View Post
              The prob i heard in R15 is the chain .
              Its so delicate and the chain must be lubed for every 500kms and is it easy to DIY the lubrication
              Misconception.

              Truth =
              R15 has one of the best chain & sprocket set. For God's sake, it is a DID chain!

              But, as with any open chain, it gets dirty and needs some attention (clean & lube every 500 odd KMs). As with any O-ring chain, it makes some noise.

              If in doubt, pls check the manuals of any bike with O-ring chain and the chain maintenance would have this mentioned.That includes every bike we spoke about here in this thread, excluding the Karizma.

              Originally posted by Devilpulsarian View Post
              Drop zma from your list.

              age old engine (hence has to be reliable) and everything from head to tail.....a simple screw to the piston costs a BOMBBB.....
              to the top of it, if you get milege in the range of 32-33kmpl, consider yourself extremely lucky....
              Another misconception.

              Karizma has THE most relaxed engine among the lot at high-speeds. Yes it has less torque than the P220 and lower pickup than the P220 & the R15... but the difference is not a huge one. Again, that's the character of the bike. The relaxed (some call it lazy) engine is a boon for cruising and the smooth & reliable Honda would not need you to buy that screw near the piston so easily. Honda's last to be outlasted by another Honda. In this matter, neither the hot & madly accelerating P220 nor the high-revving R15 or even the high revving & madly accelerating RTR's should be able to match the Karizma's engine life - this is a matter of general physics - more heat & higher friction damage moulds easier/faster.

              I just hope this post would not be considered flaming material. If you want me to say some good things about the P220 too, please post something bad but not true first

              Ah! and the mileage - Karizma gives me 36-37 and R15 gives me 39-41 in similar conditions. P220 is also in similar range. Even highway mileage of all the bikes are more or less in the same range. You can trust the numbers if you want to trust a person who has toured reasonable well with a team of one Karizma One P220 & One R15. Now, for a surprise, the RTR too delivers similar mileage than these three if toured along near & over 100 KMPH mark. Thr RTR needs to be kept under 90 KMPH mark and with a soft hand on the accelerator for better mileage.
              Last edited by HydBiker; 04-22-2009, 11:44 PM.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by ACE_HUNTER View Post
                @ Ketan: As Said By Aditya Go For R15 If You Don't Look For Budget


                Ps: What's Your Height & Weight ?
                I am ready to spend for the R15

                My height is 5.9" & 52 kg
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by ketansrihas View Post
                  I am ready to spend for the R15

                  My height is 5.9" & 52 kg
                  Perfect,Get The Bike & Post It On R15 Ownership Thread
                  All The Best
                  Failure should never go to heart & success should never go to head,both makes a person to fall in life-Winston Churchill


                  Yesterday is history.
                  Tomorrow is a mystery.
                  Today is a gift, That is why it is called \"Present\".

                  Enjoy every moment.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by ACE_HUNTER View Post
                    Perfect,Get The Bike & Post It On R15 Ownership Thread
                    All The Best
                    Hmm i thought i should wait until the launch of new 220
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by ketansrihas View Post
                      Hmm i thought i should wait until the launch of new 220
                      Never Mind Listen To Your Heart Says
                      Failure should never go to heart & success should never go to head,both makes a person to fall in life-Winston Churchill


                      Yesterday is history.
                      Tomorrow is a mystery.
                      Today is a gift, That is why it is called \"Present\".

                      Enjoy every moment.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by saif71184 View Post
                        Wait for RTR180, it has the potential to put some heavyweights to shame...
                        or if you are eager to buy Tour de force
                        This pinches me for the ZMA
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                        • #27
                          ^^^ that makes me grin....

                          But you should still ride all three and then decide.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by ketansrihas View Post
                            This pinches me for the ZMA
                            Hands-down ZMA is the best bike for touring, still try all 3 and decide you will be in a better position

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by ketansrihas View Post
                              Hmm i thought i should wait until the launch of new 220
                              waiting for the RTR 180 would be worth too....
                              The Magician"

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                                waiting for the RTR 180 would be worth too....
                                But the apache sitting position is uncomfortable for me bro
                                I drove it. The handle too vibrates at speed of 80. Though the response of the bike is very good.
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