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Hi all,
This is Sharath...
I am planning to get a new bike and struck with a lot of questions...
Need your help... first in reading my entire story what i am going to write it down and finally an answer for me...
I will try to avoid unnecessary things in my post and this is my first post guys... I have been a follower of teambhp and xbhp over few years because anything regarding automobiles i always look into these two sites.
Currently i own a Hero Xtreme 2013 model which is in very good condition. I started watching motovlogging videos and DIY videos and really came to know that a bike is not just a bike. It should be your responsibility, your daily preference, your companion, what not.....
Got a job now which i am in from the past 6 months and saving a lot of amount to get a new bike with my own money....
In this process i decided not to go for a 150cc segment again because i already own it and i am using it. I dont have any serious issues with my Xtreme. After gathering some knowledge i am taking care of my bike from time to time. Regarding the city commute, i go to office which is 31kms far away from my place here in Hyderabad. So my daily commute involves around 65kms per day in which the on going time is in the evening traffic and while coming home its morning 5AM where i dont have any traffic problem. The fuel economy figures always stands out for me from 50-55kmpl. I shifted to Motul 5100 10W 30, lube my chain every 400kms or once in 10 days, wash my bike whenever i feel i need to, etc. So i am satisfied with my Hero Xtreme and i am looking for an upgrade. I dont want to sell my xtreme and would like to use it along with my new bike for daily office purpose.
The main questions starts hitting me from here.
Decided to upgrade.... to what... a 200cc or a 400cc???
I love fully faired motorcycles. In fact the Pulsar RS200 made me to fell in love with it and a new bike concept has kicked off with the RS only.
So you guys might say if i love the RS then why dont i finalize it...
Let me extend some more....
The top most bike i can afford is the Dominar 400 which is priced at 1.8 onroad here in Hyderabad. I dont want to extend even few thousands also anymore.
Bikes which come under my budget are:
Pulsar NS 200 ABS
Apache 200 4V ABS
Pulsar RS 200 ABS
Yamaha FZ 25
Dominar 400
I somehow dont like the KTM's and Enfield so decided to stay out of them.
I did a lot of research, followed many groups and gathered very much information regarding the above bikes.
NS200: I feel the NS and the RS are same. Then why should i choose the NS which also has ABS but still a carburetted machine. So i some how not interested on the NS.
Apache 200: Went to the nearby showroom and the first impression i didnt like the customer service itself. Though bike is my main priority, the 200 4v is also a carburettor bike in which TVS launched the ABS recently 2 weeks back after a long gap. The onroad price is 1,28,000 - Carburettor with ABS.
FZ 25: Coming from a 13 or 14bhp i dont know it actually, i really need an upgrade. The FZ 25 is a 250cc bike but the power it has is just 20BHP which i feel is not a worthy upgrade. Though it gives me a good fuel economy than the rest i want an ABS which is missing and the FZ has 2 major issues. One if the Coin rattling sound and the second one is the silencer pipe color change. Few people said Yamaha has recalled the FZ25 for some faulty loose nuts, but i dont think that has nothing to do with the coin rattling sound which is there is almost all the Fz 25. If Yamaha would have offered me atleast a single channel ABS i would have shortlisted this into my top 2 priority.
Here the real game starts...
RS200 and the Dominar 400:
Fell i love with RS but after following up the Dominar reviews, videos, etc fell in love with the D400 also.
RS200 ABS Onroad - 1,58,000
Dominar 400 - 1,62,000
Dominar ABS - 1,78,000
If you observe the difference between these two bikes is just 4K (with the Non ABS Dominar)
As per my knowledge which i have gathered, let me list out the cons of both the bikes.
RS200:
-Fairing vibrations after long term ownership (can be fixed by using 3M tape)
-Battery and electrical failures which resulted in the bike breakdown
-Engine stalling issues
-Coolant is being mixed up with Engine oil resulting in the bike breakdown
-Headlight looks killer but they doesnt offer a good spread instead they focus on a particular area
-Spares are difficult to find (May be bajaj has shifted its focus onto the Dominar)
-Uncomfortable pillion seat (I dont care about the pillion because i want the RS for my ride)
-Single channel ABS where the Dominar has dual channel. I dont think the Rear Wheel Lift Off Protection (RLP) feature will make sure the rear wheel doesnt get locked
Users should say about this...
Dominar 400:
-Vibrations near the tank at 4-5K RPM
-City mileage is just around 22-25kmpl (Pls dont think i am purely mileage minded)
-Maintenance cost will be a bit higher than the RS
-Weight in city traffic
To be frank i am not purely concerned about mileage but i feel it is also a factor which everyone considers when buying a bike or a car.
When i gathered the user reports the RS will give 30-35kmpl in city and may extend upto 40kmpl on the highways
Dominar will give around 22-25kmpl in city and the max which can be achieved is upto 33kmpl max which is obviously a highway mileage.
I want to use my xtreme also along with my new bike. I really dont have clarity whether to go for the RS or the Dominar.
My brother says me 34BHP is too much for me where as 24BHP in the RS would be sufficient as i am not a rash rider. Max i ride will be around 100's. I dont look for any top speed tests or racing kind of things. I just want comfort with a decent cruising speed.
But having the dominar which is very close to the RS in terms of pricing i am unable to decide on these two.
Whenever i think of mileage my heart says go for the RS but the next day i again start thinking of the dominar.
I know clearly that i have an answer for me in the my points itself.
But need your suggestions, experiences with the dominar and the RS...
Users can help me out by sharing their experiences.
My primary usage would be as i said to my office and that too not daily. I might take the new bike twice in a week and the rest of the working day i would prefer the Xtreme.
Coming to weekend i may go for rides and that too i know that i will feel bore going for long rides every weekend after some months.
I travel to my hometown which is 230kms from Hyderabad once in 2 months. So that trip will also be helpful as a long ride.
As i became an employee, i am thinking that i will be able to manage my bike expenses but those should be reasonable. I dont want to keep a huge amount every month on my head.
Guys, please tell me whether i should go for the dominar or the RS...
Any update regarding the RS 200 2018...?
Will the dominar disappoints me in terms of mileage too badly?
In city my speed would be around 55-65 as on my xtreme and i might go around 70's on my new machine and on highways i will cruise around 100 or max 110kmph.
So do you think the dominar will do justice to me with these kind of economy speeds?
Coming to the RS, will i face any back aches due to its sporty seating position?
Most of the problems i have listed above are from pre 2017 RS200 models and some people are saying that 2017 RS200 has changed a lot...
How true it is?
In long term which bike will be a reliable one for me...?
Waiting for your valuable inputs instead of critics...
Thank you for your patience in reading all this stuff...
This is Sharath...
I am planning to get a new bike and struck with a lot of questions...
Need your help... first in reading my entire story what i am going to write it down and finally an answer for me...
I will try to avoid unnecessary things in my post and this is my first post guys... I have been a follower of teambhp and xbhp over few years because anything regarding automobiles i always look into these two sites.
Currently i own a Hero Xtreme 2013 model which is in very good condition. I started watching motovlogging videos and DIY videos and really came to know that a bike is not just a bike. It should be your responsibility, your daily preference, your companion, what not.....
Got a job now which i am in from the past 6 months and saving a lot of amount to get a new bike with my own money....
In this process i decided not to go for a 150cc segment again because i already own it and i am using it. I dont have any serious issues with my Xtreme. After gathering some knowledge i am taking care of my bike from time to time. Regarding the city commute, i go to office which is 31kms far away from my place here in Hyderabad. So my daily commute involves around 65kms per day in which the on going time is in the evening traffic and while coming home its morning 5AM where i dont have any traffic problem. The fuel economy figures always stands out for me from 50-55kmpl. I shifted to Motul 5100 10W 30, lube my chain every 400kms or once in 10 days, wash my bike whenever i feel i need to, etc. So i am satisfied with my Hero Xtreme and i am looking for an upgrade. I dont want to sell my xtreme and would like to use it along with my new bike for daily office purpose.
The main questions starts hitting me from here.
Decided to upgrade.... to what... a 200cc or a 400cc???
I love fully faired motorcycles. In fact the Pulsar RS200 made me to fell in love with it and a new bike concept has kicked off with the RS only.
So you guys might say if i love the RS then why dont i finalize it...
Let me extend some more....
The top most bike i can afford is the Dominar 400 which is priced at 1.8 onroad here in Hyderabad. I dont want to extend even few thousands also anymore.
Bikes which come under my budget are:
Pulsar NS 200 ABS
Apache 200 4V ABS
Pulsar RS 200 ABS
Yamaha FZ 25
Dominar 400
I somehow dont like the KTM's and Enfield so decided to stay out of them.
I did a lot of research, followed many groups and gathered very much information regarding the above bikes.
NS200: I feel the NS and the RS are same. Then why should i choose the NS which also has ABS but still a carburetted machine. So i some how not interested on the NS.
Apache 200: Went to the nearby showroom and the first impression i didnt like the customer service itself. Though bike is my main priority, the 200 4v is also a carburettor bike in which TVS launched the ABS recently 2 weeks back after a long gap. The onroad price is 1,28,000 - Carburettor with ABS.
FZ 25: Coming from a 13 or 14bhp i dont know it actually, i really need an upgrade. The FZ 25 is a 250cc bike but the power it has is just 20BHP which i feel is not a worthy upgrade. Though it gives me a good fuel economy than the rest i want an ABS which is missing and the FZ has 2 major issues. One if the Coin rattling sound and the second one is the silencer pipe color change. Few people said Yamaha has recalled the FZ25 for some faulty loose nuts, but i dont think that has nothing to do with the coin rattling sound which is there is almost all the Fz 25. If Yamaha would have offered me atleast a single channel ABS i would have shortlisted this into my top 2 priority.
Here the real game starts...
RS200 and the Dominar 400:
Fell i love with RS but after following up the Dominar reviews, videos, etc fell in love with the D400 also.
RS200 ABS Onroad - 1,58,000
Dominar 400 - 1,62,000
Dominar ABS - 1,78,000
If you observe the difference between these two bikes is just 4K (with the Non ABS Dominar)
As per my knowledge which i have gathered, let me list out the cons of both the bikes.
RS200:
-Fairing vibrations after long term ownership (can be fixed by using 3M tape)
-Battery and electrical failures which resulted in the bike breakdown
-Engine stalling issues
-Coolant is being mixed up with Engine oil resulting in the bike breakdown
-Headlight looks killer but they doesnt offer a good spread instead they focus on a particular area
-Spares are difficult to find (May be bajaj has shifted its focus onto the Dominar)
-Uncomfortable pillion seat (I dont care about the pillion because i want the RS for my ride)
-Single channel ABS where the Dominar has dual channel. I dont think the Rear Wheel Lift Off Protection (RLP) feature will make sure the rear wheel doesnt get locked
Users should say about this...
Dominar 400:
-Vibrations near the tank at 4-5K RPM
-City mileage is just around 22-25kmpl (Pls dont think i am purely mileage minded)
-Maintenance cost will be a bit higher than the RS
-Weight in city traffic
To be frank i am not purely concerned about mileage but i feel it is also a factor which everyone considers when buying a bike or a car.
When i gathered the user reports the RS will give 30-35kmpl in city and may extend upto 40kmpl on the highways
Dominar will give around 22-25kmpl in city and the max which can be achieved is upto 33kmpl max which is obviously a highway mileage.
I want to use my xtreme also along with my new bike. I really dont have clarity whether to go for the RS or the Dominar.
My brother says me 34BHP is too much for me where as 24BHP in the RS would be sufficient as i am not a rash rider. Max i ride will be around 100's. I dont look for any top speed tests or racing kind of things. I just want comfort with a decent cruising speed.
But having the dominar which is very close to the RS in terms of pricing i am unable to decide on these two.
Whenever i think of mileage my heart says go for the RS but the next day i again start thinking of the dominar.
I know clearly that i have an answer for me in the my points itself.
But need your suggestions, experiences with the dominar and the RS...
Users can help me out by sharing their experiences.
My primary usage would be as i said to my office and that too not daily. I might take the new bike twice in a week and the rest of the working day i would prefer the Xtreme.
Coming to weekend i may go for rides and that too i know that i will feel bore going for long rides every weekend after some months.
I travel to my hometown which is 230kms from Hyderabad once in 2 months. So that trip will also be helpful as a long ride.
As i became an employee, i am thinking that i will be able to manage my bike expenses but those should be reasonable. I dont want to keep a huge amount every month on my head.
Guys, please tell me whether i should go for the dominar or the RS...
Any update regarding the RS 200 2018...?
Will the dominar disappoints me in terms of mileage too badly?
In city my speed would be around 55-65 as on my xtreme and i might go around 70's on my new machine and on highways i will cruise around 100 or max 110kmph.
So do you think the dominar will do justice to me with these kind of economy speeds?
Coming to the RS, will i face any back aches due to its sporty seating position?
Most of the problems i have listed above are from pre 2017 RS200 models and some people are saying that 2017 RS200 has changed a lot...
How true it is?
In long term which bike will be a reliable one for me...?
Waiting for your valuable inputs instead of critics...
Thank you for your patience in reading all this stuff...
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