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  • Low maintenance Muscle Bike

    Hello MotorHeads,

    Current two wheelers I own:
    1. Bajaj CT100 (2004) - Mileage 70 - Top Speed 75
    2. Honda Aviator (2011) - Mileage 45 - Top Speed 80
    3. Honda Activa 125(2016) - Mileage 54 - Top Speed 85

    My Travel:
    Weekdays -> 45 + 45 = 90 km to and fro
    Weekend -> uncertain

    My office is 45 kmpl away from my house
    I use Aviator for the travel mostly, Activa125 rarely to keep it running


    Travel Route:
    The 45km is State Highway going from South Trivandrum to North Trivandrum, bypassing the City through a coastal route.

    45 km can be now divided into two parts mainly:
    First 22 km is 15-feet Kerala highway which is mostly twisted and curvy. Moreover, along the coastal area there are people. If a big vehicle is in front, I am stuck behind it.
    Second, 22 kms used to be narrow and straight, but now it is WIDE and straight with ALMOST NO TRAFFIC. The only problem is that since Widening is not complete, I have to take side roads in between at places.
    Now, my requirement is to have a bike which is zippy and swift enough to safely overtake vehicles in first part; and then zoom through the next half.


    I never felt the need for an upgrade over my CT100, as my office in Nagpur was just 3 kms away.
    Here is my Average TRAVEL TIME in TRIVANDRUM after recent Road Widening:
    Aviator -> 52 mins
    Activa125 -> 48 mins
    CT100 -> 70 mins


    REQUIREMENT IS TO SAVE TRAVEL TIME ,
    BUDGET I AM PLANNING IS BELOW 2 LAKHS ON ROAD PRICE ,
    I THINK I AM LOOKING FOR ABOVE 250CC SEGMENT BIKE ,
    MY HEART WANTS A DUKE390 ABOVE,BUT IT ATTRACTS 49000 ROAD TAX, MAKING IT 2.9+ LAKHS BIKE, WHICH PINCHES MY CONSCIENCE.



    KINDLY PROVIDE VALUABLE FEEDBACK.


    PS:
    1. I am a very lazy guy, hate maintenance. Also, leaving bike with a mechanic is both a insecure and exhausting feeling for me.
    Last edited by Dr.Love; 06-05-2018, 05:36 PM.

  • #2
    Re: Low maintenance Muscle Bike

    Query Approved

    If you do want to upgrade i would suggest something like the Apache 200 and FZ25.
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    • #3
      Re: Low maintenance Muscle Bike

      @Dr.Love

      So let me get this straight, you want to upgrade because:

      1. You want to save time
      2. You dont want spinal jerks during riding

      But do you want to save money as well?

      If the answer to above question is YES, then you dont have to go above 200cc:

      1. Gixxer/Intruder
      2. Apache 200
      3. 200NS
      4. FZ25

      If the answer to the above question is NO, even then you dont have to go above 200cc.

      However if you want to choose between Dominar, Duke250 and RR310 then I would suggest RR310 even though your lowerback may get compromised.

      If you are still in doubt, heres how I usually advice people to decide on a motorcycle:

      1. Determine your usage for the motorcycle---> City riding or City+Highway or Highway
      2. Determine the class of motorcycle according to your usage---> Standard or Sports or Cruizer or Semifaired (which is technically Standard)
      3. Determine your cubic capacity limit according to the limit of your abilities---> Dont go buying a 400cc bike if you cant handle its power
      4. Test ride all the options within the CC limit, narrow down the options according to budget, do some more research on narrowed down options and then Test ride once again the narrowed down options
      5. Make the final decision

      Hope it helps.

      P.S: Let me remind you something, on this Forum anyone who does not abide by the traffic rules is not appreciated.
      Since you said you wanted to upgrade in order to save time, I can only assume that you are going to overspeed to cut down the time. I would highly recommend that you dont resort to such tactics. It never ends well for anyone.

      Also, you will experience much better acceleration capabilities in these bikes but that does not mean you can filter through traffic recklessly, do keep this in mind as well.
      Last edited by MotoBlizzard; 03-08-2018, 10:50 AM.
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      • #4
        Re: Low maintenance Muscle Bike

        Why not Duke 200? I think it's better for the city than the 250, gixxer is a great city bike by experience, I haven't ridden the ns 200 but I can say it's way better for the highways, similarly Apache 200 makes a good city bike from what I've read. As the above person mentioned, go test ride all the bikes mentioned, and yes the fz25 is another good option.
        Last edited by Deathwing; 03-08-2018, 03:42 PM.

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        • #5
          Re: Low maintenance Muscle Bike

          Hello MotorHeads,


          I am surprised, that no one has suggested to buy a second hand Alto or a new one if I could stretch the budget!
          For those who had this in mind, I already have a car and travel by it once or twice a week. But it takes me more time on the 4 wheels than 2.

          @The Monk , @Deathwing :
          THe reason I was not including a 200cc is because, I've driven enough of Karizma and 220F; they were not thrilling, they felt little quick only when i would switch over from my CT100 to them for some intial time. After that they were okay kind (Karizma was pretty comfy though). The Duke 200 is an exception in this segment.

          @Deathwing: the reason why included Duke 250 in place of 200, is because the 250 is more like 390. Has larger tank (13L), has shorter wheelbase, greater ground clearance and increased seat height. And it gets with Side silencer , which gives you more after market options if you want to do away with the stock ones. (personally I'm not a big fan of the Duke's note). RC's riding posture is more aggressive for my likes; and suspension is stiffer in my opinion, hence avoided.
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          @MotoBlizzard :
          the answer is both yes and no.
          No, because I dont want to save money and compromise on the choice of my bike, this goes as first rule.
          Yes, because paying more to RTO and for Fuel doesnt make sense to me, this goes as second rule.


          And I would like to avoid a Faired bike, the third rule. Reason is, when I was in PUne and we used to go on trips on hilly areas - the fairing seemed to cause trouble on the curvy roads at night time. Believe me, it sucks in the dark not knowing the road ahead. Thats also the reason why I avoided a CBR250R on my list.


          Lastly, my friend , thanks for reminding me the always best advice. Keep calm, i dont drive rash; i may speed though, but i am not a zig-zag guy. And I hate honking too, which is also the reason that it takes me 1:20 mins while coming by car. Trivandrum folks like to Flash the Pass light instead, thousand times better than Bengaluru honking, my God I would have gone mad there. Also, the HeadLight is set to Upper by default.


          Friends who have been my pillion advice me to go for an RE, but its like the pulsars of now, the obvious choice of Rames-Sures-Mahes-Ganes
          Also, it doesnt solve my purpose, takes more time. The fastest I reached office was on a friend's RX135, but my back ached.


          Also, need your INPUTS ON REQUIRED MAINTENANCE on the suggested bikes.


          Thanks!
          Doc
          Last edited by Dr.Love; 06-26-2018, 08:43 PM.

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          • #6
            Re: Low maintenance Muscle Bike

            Originally posted by Dr.Love View Post
            Hello MotorHeads,

            I am surprised, that no one has suggested to buy a second hand Alto or a new one if I could stretch the budget!

            @MotoBlizzard :
            i dont drive rash; i may speed though, but i am not a zig-zag guy

            Also, need your INPUTS ON REQUIRED MAINTENANCE on the suggested bikes.
            xBhp = motorcycle forum
            You want a suggestion for a Car go to Team-BHP xD

            Conflicting statement there> Dont drive rash BUT fine with Speeding?

            Based on the fact that you have an Activa 125 in your stable, I would suggest going for the RTR 200 2.0

            At this point the TVS bike would be VFM. You can opt for the Carb+ABS variant because theres no FI+ABS variant unfortunately. Theres also no indication whether they are going to launch the FI+ABS variant. But thats definitely not a deal breaker. Maintenance should be rather reasonable as well.

            If the RTR 2.0 hadnt been launched I would have suggested the Gixxer SF FI ABS hands down. Paid service at an ASC would cost you around 1000INR.
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            • #7
              Re: Low maintenance Muscle Bike

              Thanks for all the suggestions.

              Value your inputs, but the RTR or Gixxer SF is not Fun. Like the R15 is all looks but no fun. I see it as an unnecessary stepping stone before moving to a fun bike. I may need only a 150cc bike but I want a 250cc bike.

              Sorry for confusion, I never said I am looking for a car. It is just the most common reaction I get at my workplace when I mention budget as 2 lakhs. Small city! Non Mum-Bang-Del_Hyd-Chn folks would understand. Refrain from marketing for Team=Bhp here, they are not just restricted to Cars by the way.

              I don't think I need to explain meaning of Rash Driving here. One could drive rash at 50kmph on a busy road. At the same time, one could speed safely on a 4 lane highway.
              My travel time is odd, I go around 1 pm and return at 10 pm, finding only 5-10 vehicles every kilometer.

              Have to explain one more point here, when I say Low Maintenance I mean Less Maintenance, and NOT Less Maintenance COST.
              Example, RE bike do not age but they also require lot of pampering. I know of many uncles who still own a bullet and do not miss a day to wipe it clean. I am not that guy, that was the point.

              Below is the list that I had preparing. Different specs were mentioned different at different sites. But, I was waiting for the quarter mile stats, and when one site provided, I used the 0-60 and 0-100 also from that site. Rounded- up or down as per my wish.


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              Notice that, the first 4 (1-4) are below 10sec bikes, and next 4 (5-8) are 40 mileage bikes.
              I have shortlisted Dominar, FZ25 and Himalayan.
              Himalayan for I love its looks, but afraid because its an RE.
              FZ25 for it provides most of both worlds.
              Bajaj has come a long way from its scooters (Starting Problem - Tilting Required - Bajaj Super) to the KTM partnership (Dominar and RS200) for it is closest to the benchmark KTM390.
              Moreover, I personally believe the MOTORCYCLE BRAND IS ONLY AS GOOD AS WE TAKE CARE OF OUR BIKE.

              So, have to remove the final confusion between the three. Thoughts?
              Attached Files
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              • #8
                Re: Low maintenance Muscle Bike

                Out of the above stated 3 bikes (Fz250, Himalayan, and Dominar),
                I have further reduced my selection to Dominar and Himalayan, because my ride is almost on the Highways.

                If it were for City , the selection would have been easier , an FZ25.

                Please help me with your ideas on Dominar vs. Himalayan?

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                • #9
                  Re: Low maintenance Muscle Bike

                  Originally posted by Dr.Love View Post
                  Out of the above stated 3 bikes (Fz250, Himalayan, and Dominar),
                  I have further reduced my selection to Dominar and Himalayan, because my ride is almost on the Highways.

                  If it were for City , the selection would have been easier , an FZ25.

                  Please help me with your ideas on Dominar vs. Himalayan?
                  Go for dominar Dr. Love you'll love it. Pros over Himalayan..... liquid cooling for high revving engine, 35nm of raw torque, comfortable, tubeless tires, spare parts availability,engaging performance , best performance below 2 lakhs.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Low maintenance Muscle Bike

                    Originally posted by Dr.Love View Post


                    I am surprised, that no one has suggested to buy a second hand Alto or a new one if I could stretch the budget!





                    Anyways, buy a FZ25, comfortable, fast-ish, and reliable

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                    • #11
                      Re: Low maintenance Muscle Bike

                      Originally posted by Dr.Love View Post

                      Aviator -> 52 mins
                      Activa125 -> 48 mins
                      CT100 -> 70 mins

                      REQUIREMENT IS TO SAVE TRAVEL TIME ,
                      Please elaborate the ones in red.


                      Originally posted by Dr.Love View Post

                      I am surprised, that no one has suggested to buy a second hand Alto or a new one if I could stretch the budget!
                      We all are equally surprised that you are surprised


                      Originally posted by Dr.Love View Post

                      THe reason I was not including a 200cc is because, I've driven enough of Karizma and 220F; they were not thrilling, they felt little quick only when i would switch over from my CT100 to them for some intial time. After that they were okay kind (Karizma was pretty comfy though). The Duke 200 is an exception in this segment
                      You must be kidding me! Saying 220F felt marginally quick compared to CT100? Let me tell you this. The difference b/w 220F and say FZ25 (from your shortlist) will feel way lesser than that b/w it and any 100cc bike. Period.


                      As for advice, I would say go for FZ25 as Himalayan is not at all on lesser maintenance list. Can also enquire for Xtreme200.
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                      • #12
                        Re: Low maintenance Muscle Bike

                        i would have choose the Dominar400 or the fz250..

                        but dominar is heavy and handling is not so good .but its Great value for money and has ABS..

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                        • #13
                          Re: Low maintenance Muscle Bike

                          Originally posted by MotoBlizzard View Post
                          @Dr.Love

                          So let me get this straight, you want to upgrade because:

                          1. You want to save time
                          2. You dont want spinal jerks during riding

                          But do you want to save money as well?

                          If the answer to above question is YES, then you dont have to go above 200cc:

                          1. Gixxer/Intruder
                          2. Apache 200
                          3. 200NS
                          4. FZ25

                          If the answer to the above question is NO, even then you dont have to go above 200cc.

                          However if you want to choose between Dominar, Duke250 and RR310 then I would suggest RR310 even though your lowerback may get compromised.

                          If you are still in doubt, heres how I usually advice people to decide on a motorcycle:

                          1. Determine your usage for the motorcycle---> City riding or City+Highway or Highway
                          2. Determine the class of motorcycle according to your usage---> Standard or Sports or Cruizer or Semifaired (which is technically Standard)
                          3. Determine your cubic capacity limit according to the limit of your abilities---> Dont go buying a 400cc bike if you cant handle its power
                          4. Test ride all the options within the CC limit, narrow down the options according to budget, do some more research on narrowed down options and then Test ride once again the narrowed down options
                          5. Make the final decision

                          Hope it helps.

                          P.S: Let me remind you something, on this Forum anyone who does not abide by the traffic rules is not appreciated.
                          Since you said you wanted to upgrade in order to save time, I can only assume that you are going to overspeed to cut down the time. I would highly recommend that you dont resort to such tactics. It never ends well for anyone.

                          Also, you will experience much better acceleration capabilities in these bikes but that does not mean you can filter through traffic recklessly, do keep this in mind as well.
                          Apache 200 is one of the finest bike for inside city ride. In terms of pricing it comes within 1 lakh rupees. This bike is suitable for every age group.
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                          • #14
                            Re: Low maintenance Muscle Bike

                            looking for comfort, go for Yamaha FZ/ Fazer 25 or Bajaj Dominor

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