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  • Confused between Apache 1604V, FZS V3 and Hornet 160R

    Age : 31
    Riding style :Mildly aggressive
    Riding pattern : 90% on 4 lane highway (daily commute of 30km)
    Present ride : TVS Victor 110 (2018 model; was low on finance )

    Requirement : Rider comfort, mileage secondary, mostly commuting with rare bike trips
    Price onroad : Max 1.5L (Mangalore, KA)

    Based on all of the above, I have shortlisted the Apache, FZ and Hornet. Please advise on which of these 3 would be suitable for me? Also more options are most welcome
    Reduce 1 km/hr speed, add 1second 2 ur life.

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    Re: Confused between Apache 1604V, FZS V3 and Hornet 160R

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      Re: Confused between Apache 1604V, FZS V3 and Hornet 160R

      Originally posted by vinchel View Post
      Age : 31
      Riding style :Mildly aggressive
      Riding pattern : 90% on 4 lane highway (daily commute of 30km)
      Present ride : TVS Victor 110 (2018 model; was low on finance )

      Requirement : Rider comfort, mileage secondary, mostly commuting with rare bike trips
      Price onroad : Max 1.5L (Mangalore, KA)

      Based on all of the above, I have shortlisted the Apache, FZ and Hornet. Please advise on which of these 3 would be suitable for me? Also more options are most welcome
      FZ will be a safe option. I personally own Hornet V2 , it has a smooth engine and it's good on highways but it has very stiff suspension setup so it's uncomfortable in bad roads. Apache 160 4v has many reliability issues, though the bike is good but TVS servicing is not upto the mark. So go for FZ V3 , it has no such problems. It has wide comfortable seats, balanced performance, more upright riding positiin than Hornet and apache.

      You can also take Pulsar 220 and avenger 220 into consideration, they are much more comfortable and powerful than above mentioned bikes with good mileage.

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        Re: Confused between Apache 1604V, FZS V3 and Hornet 160R

        Since you already have a TVS Victor, you know about TVS service.

        I'd suggest you better try more powerful options, Apache 200, NS200 & Pulsar 220. First two are LC and P220 is the low maintenance option with air cooling. Test ride them and see what you like. I personally went with P220 from these because of easy maintenance and soft suspension.

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          Re: Confused between Apache 1604V, FZS V3 and Hornet 160R

          Originally posted by Zapps View Post
          Since you already have a TVS Victor, you know about TVS service.

          I'd suggest you better try more powerful options, Apache 200, NS200 & Pulsar 220. First two are LC and P220 is the low maintenance option with air cooling. Test ride them and see what you like. I personally went with P220 from these because of easy maintenance and soft suspension.
          Apache is also oil/ air cooled.

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            Re: Confused between Apache 1604V, FZS V3 and Hornet 160R

            Originally posted by vinchel View Post
            Age : 31
            Riding style :Mildly aggressive
            Riding pattern : 90% on 4 lane highway (daily commute of 30km)
            Present ride : TVS Victor 110 (2018 model; was low on finance )

            Requirement : Rider comfort, mileage secondary, mostly commuting with rare bike trips
            Price onroad : Max 1.5L (Mangalore, KA)

            Based on all of the above, I have shortlisted the Apache, FZ and Hornet. Please advise on which of these 3 would be suitable for me? Also more options are most welcome
            I have a similar problem and for this I switched from a scooty zest 110 to Ntorq to KTM Duke125.
            All were a letdown.
            What you should look for is a used FZ25 or an MT15.
            It will give you the power to ride and the mileage to support you.
            FZ25 has a good soft suspension setup and soft seats for both rider and pillion. Also has dual channel ABS.
            MT15 has great power at almost all rev range thanks to VVA but stiff seat and hard rear suspension. Has Single channel ABS.
            Hero Honda Splendor (June 2001- Present)
            Yamaha YZF R3 (Jan 2016 - Present)
            TVS Scooty Zest 110 (Oct 2017 - Apr 2018)
            TVS Ntorq 125 (May 2018 - Apr 2019)
            KTM Duke 125 (Apr 2019 - Dec 2019)

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              Re: Confused between Apache 1604V, FZS V3 and Hornet 160R

              Originally posted by #bpk View Post
              FZ will be a safe option. I personally own Hornet V2 , it has a smooth engine and it's good on highways but it has very stiff suspension setup so it's uncomfortable in bad roads. Apache 160 4v has many reliability issues, though the bike is good but TVS servicing is not upto the mark. So go for FZ V3 , it has no such problems. It has wide comfortable seats, balanced performance, more upright riding positiin than Hornet and apache.

              You can also take Pulsar 220 and avenger 220 into consideration, they are much more comfortable and powerful than above mentioned bikes with good mileage.
              Even I have test driven the P220F and ride is comfortable and pickup is superb. But is the 220F really a value for money option in 2020? Especially as new bikes are going to be released? I can wait for maximum one month

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              Originally posted by Zapps View Post
              Since you already have a TVS Victor, you know about TVS service.

              I'd suggest you better try more powerful options, Apache 200, NS200 & Pulsar 220. First two are LC and P220 is the low maintenance option with air cooling. Test ride them and see what you like. I personally went with P220 from these because of easy maintenance and soft suspension.

              TVS service is superb in Mangalore. Even am confused on whether to finalize on the P220 because :
              1. FZ/FZ S has superb looks (the best in segment) and having owned a FZ16 previously, I am inclined to it.
              2. 160 4V apache is a true bestseller here and ride is comfortable (and also TVS offers maximum value for bike exchange )
              3. Hornet has the maximum mileage claimed.

              My doubt is the P220 still the best value for money bike? Also there is a new 180 neon which looks exactly like 220
              Reduce 1 km/hr speed, add 1second 2 ur life.

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                Re: Confused between Apache 1604V, FZS V3 and Hornet 160R

                Bro, I'd suggest Apache 160 4V or P220, other options are under-powered. It doesn't seems like much but when you consider spending over a lakh, and still riding a mule when for similar money you could have it's cousin, a prancing horse. Apache 160 will give you better FE and P200 will give you better performance.

                Heck that goes with the xBhp motto - more is never enough! I have nothing against japs bit it's just that Indian manufacturers have come a long way after breaking and making JVs with bike makers. And when they are offering better performance, it's tempting to look their way.

                You've ridden those things before, try a test ride now. P220 from pre-BS4 era and post BS4 era is night and day difference in smoothness, just citing a normal detail about improvements by Indian manufacturers.
                Originally posted by vinchel View Post
                Even I have test driven the P220F and ride is comfortable and pickup is superb. But is the 220F really a value for money option in 2020? Especially as new bikes are going to be released? I can wait for maximum one month

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                TVS service is superb in Mangalore. Even am confused on whether to finalize on the P220 because :
                1. FZ/FZ S has superb looks (the best in segment) and having owned a FZ16 previously, I am inclined to it.
                2. 160 4V apache is a true bestseller here and ride is comfortable (and also TVS offers maximum value for bike exchange )
                3. Hornet has the maximum mileage claimed.

                My doubt is the P220 still the best value for money bike? Also there is a new 180 neon which looks exactly like 220

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                  Re: Confused between Apache 1604V, FZS V3 and Hornet 160R

                  P220 is always a good all-rounder, expect FE 35-40 kmpl. Cruising on highways at 100 is a bliss. Suspension is so soft and good. It's a proper street bike with a more powerful engine, more like a sports tourer. The sitting pose, power delivery everything is lovable.

                  But again test ride it before making the decision.
                  Originally posted by vinchel View Post
                  Even I have test driven the P220F and ride is comfortable and pickup is superb. But is the 220F really a value for money option in 2020? Especially as new bikes are going to be released? I can wait for maximum one month

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                  TVS service is superb in Mangalore. Even am confused on whether to finalize on the P220 because :
                  1. FZ/FZ S has superb looks (the best in segment) and having owned a FZ16 previously, I am inclined to it.
                  2. 160 4V apache is a true bestseller here and ride is comfortable (and also TVS offers maximum value for bike exchange )
                  3. Hornet has the maximum mileage claimed.

                  My doubt is the P220 still the best value for money bike? Also there is a new 180 neon which looks exactly like 220

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                    Re: Confused between Apache 1604V, FZS V3 and Hornet 160R

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                    Originally posted by Zapps View Post
                    P220 is always a good all-rounder, expect FE 35-40 kmpl. Cruising on highways at 100 is a bliss. Suspension is so soft and good. It's a proper street bike with a more powerful engine, more like a sports tourer. The sitting pose, power delivery everything is lovable.

                    But again test ride it before making the decision.

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                      Re: Confused between Apache 1604V, FZS V3 and Hornet 160R

                      Originally posted by vinchel View Post
                      Even I have test driven the P220F and ride is comfortable and pickup is superb. But is the 220F really a value for money option in 2020? Especially as new bikes are going to be released? I can wait for maximum one month

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                      TVS service is superb in Mangalore. Even am confused on whether to finalize on the P220 because :
                      1. FZ/FZ S has superb looks (the best in segment) and having owned a FZ16 previously, I am inclined to it.
                      2. 160 4V apache is a true bestseller here and ride is comfortable (and also TVS offers maximum value for bike exchange )
                      3. Hornet has the maximum mileage claimed.

                      My doubt is the P220 still the best value for money bike? Also there is a new 180 neon which looks exactly like 220
                      P 220 is the best VFM product. I personally own 220 and its amazing. Ample low end torque, powerful projector headlights, same power as FZ 25 and cheap to maintain and so comfortable ! P 220 never gets old, it's a legendary motorcycle. Also very less windblast , thanks to bigger windshield even than the GIXXER SF 250 ! It has steel braided brake lines which no Japanese bike in the segment has.

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                        Re: Confused between Apache 1604V, FZS V3 and Hornet 160R

                        Originally posted by #bpk View Post
                        P 220 is the best VFM product. I personally own 220 and its amazing. Ample low end torque, powerful projector headlights, same power as FZ 25 and cheap to maintain and so comfortable ! P 220 never gets old, it's a legendary motorcycle. Also very less windblast , thanks to bigger windshield even than the GIXXER SF 250 ! It has steel braided brake lines which no Japanese bike in the segment has.
                        So much good reviews on P220 . When would the bs6 version be released?
                        Even am fine with P220. Only issue is the rear view mirror placement. Also considering its year 2020 and since more bikes are expected and Pulsar looks a bit old fashioned (if you compare competition), is it wise to go for the P220 or wait some more ( have added the hero xtreme 160r too to my list)
                        Reduce 1 km/hr speed, add 1second 2 ur life.

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                          Re: Confused between Apache 1604V, FZS V3 and Hornet 160R

                          Bs 6 has been launched,and now it come's with fi.nothing much have changed in it.xhaust note is much better in it.rvm are a bit of problem,but they can be solved.ther are mods for it.
                          Rest depends upon a individual,how he feels about a bike.
                          Originally posted by vinchel View Post
                          So much good reviews on P220 . When would the bs6 version be released?
                          Even am fine with P220. Only issue is the rear view mirror placement. Also considering its year 2020 and since more bikes are expected and Pulsar looks a bit old fashioned (if you compare competition), is it wise to go for the P220 or wait some more ( have added the hero xtreme 160r too to my list)

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                          • #14
                            Re: Confused between Apache 1604V, FZS V3 and Hornet 160R

                            Originally posted by vinchel View Post
                            So much good reviews on P220 . When would the bs6 version be released?
                            Even am fine with P220. Only issue is the rear view mirror placement. Also considering its year 2020 and since more bikes are expected and Pulsar looks a bit old fashioned (if you compare competition), is it wise to go for the P220 or wait some more ( have added the hero xtreme 160r too to my list)
                            BS6 has arrived in the showrooms.
                            The bike may look simple, but it's far better then the premium 150's and 200's !. It's a complete package. Don't go for xtreme 160 R, it's reliability is unknown .

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                              Re: Confused between Apache 1604V, FZS V3 and Hornet 160R

                              It all comes down to OP's preferences. P220 is something you want to have for what it is, and ing 13 years on market now, it's looks won't dazzle everyone but that's beside the point here. It is a capable tourer, commuter, slight off roader, has very useful headlights and has been around for more than a decade.

                              If you want looks, ofcoz you'd find the fresh crop of bikes to be better looking and stuff. From my last visit to the showroom 2 days ago, I saw CT100 & Platina in BS6 Avatar, Pulsars are yet to arrive. Maybe, some dealers already have them and these guys were trying to sell the BS4 stock.

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