@ dcs...At this moment I don't know....I am reading all the relevant threads.

I only wish Yamaha had a R25/ 250cc..My decision would have been made simple.

@ Devilpulsarian, yes I will be definitely missing the low end torque of Zma, especially in city.

Satyen, how does it handle in the city-stop-go traffic...and engine temp.?

U need not worry about the engine temp

It s got a Liquid Cooling system. But yeah, the radaiator might give some hot air for ur legs once it kicks in!

I havent had an engine over heating issue EVER... but yeah with the radiator clicking in, you get that hot air on you... I mean its not that other bikes dont heat up in traffic condition... its just the presence of the radiator that makes it more evident to your legs!

Performance wise it lags the pull in that 3k-6k RPM mark.... my R15 has a K&N (for all the wrong reasons though) which makes it a bit more lively in that mark....however that causes a compromise to its Top End... (which really doesnt bug me)

Handling wise, its not really an issue....

after riding it, other bikes might be an issue though....

^lolz

BTW How much are you expecting of your zma?

To be honest I have not given it a thought...I wish I had best of both world...zma+r15...!!

@surya : I suggest you ride your Zma for another 15 or 20K, and pray for your 'dream bike' launch (best of Zma+R15).

Surya,

Recently, one of your xbhpian sold his karizma and bought R-15. After a trip of around 1.5k, he started feeling why he had sold Karizma. That is the comfort of Karizma.

Because you are using Activa for City rides, I guess you will be using the R-15 for short tours. For tours, karizma is the best.

If you are using any other bike and want to buy r-15 it may be justifiable. Once you use Karizma, if you ride another bike, you will miss it, and R-15 is no exception.

No no let the zma go.. go for a R15 its is a amazing bike ZMA is for old people like me

i dont understand why people people always call or use the term
old horse for the ZMA?

i think that it is still effective whatever it may be
yeah it does not have that liquid cooling,,,,,,, but people use it for tours extensively with many riding hours a day and yet the engine is not a problem
yeah there may be wear and tear of it earlier..... but its in years,,,,,,
and that additional 27k which is spent in R15 could be used to rebuild the worn out parts
or for that matter buy a new bike like 250 if it comes
doesnt have fi , sensors , etc
but isint it effective,,,,,,,,,
whats the big difference in riding experience
that should be the question
because that is what a rider looks for
rather than talking about what technology it has..........
zma has good low end torque
R15 has good top end ......... more high speeds....... better handling COMPARATIVELY
but zma does not have bad handling at all
does a tourer ride at 110 kmph just to reach leh or something
or also enjoys the ride and sees things around
which ofcourse like the R15 the zma can do that speeds easily
normally tourers as far as i know ....... cruise easily around
so whats the need of top end unless you are track guy???
for only some slighty better things ......... ( in respect to riding exp )
i dont think this UPGRADE is justified

a naive example may be...........
could you explain me ........ u have eight packs , 6'10'' height , blah blah .... and still you struggle to be a clear winner in a fight with an old monk........
whats the use of that show and body developments???

and selling a multipurpose 223cc bike for a 150cc track bike makes absolutely no sense and then what after 2 months u realize there is a 250 in the market?? would sell 15 and buy that one??
if you did not have anything at hand,,,, it was a different story.... but u have quite a decent steed

as u urself said,,,,,,, if it was 250 cc you would go for it........
that makes it clear

but if you have ur heart set on it
you should go for it because then you must not be enjoying riding the zma and just riding it around with half a heart waiting for a 250 or the current R15
250 which no one knws when it might strike,,,,,,,

i am not here to bore you with philosophy or something
but psychological factor is the most important everywhere

my cents
no offense to anyone

best of luck buddy for your decision

If I was in your situation, I would be confused as you are.


Jokes apart..!
I dont prefer a ZMA to be sold to get a R15, ZMA-R15 doesnt appear to be a proper upgrade to me honsetly. Though ZMA dosnt come with atleast 30% of goodies that R15 has, It still remain in the league. Tested, Tried, hammered, tortured engine is ZMA.

YEs as Saad(Devilpulsarion) said, you would be missing the torque but Gain handling and great engine from R15. Also R15 does need lots and lots of care like Chain cleaning and lubing, Coolants etc etc...After pouring 1.10 lacs you dont exppect it to be troubling you.

I have owned R15, Pretty happy rider of it. And stick with ZMA...ty if you can reatin ZMA and get an R15

i honestly wud be with Ravi@17bhp. The ZMA is really good ride. Though its got some flaws compared to the R15, it looks killa. Maybe cos i am obsessed with the ZMA. Mine is a Dec, 2007 model, don 13k kms. Riding is comfortable irrespective if its cityride, short tours or long rides, i wud vouch for the ZMA any day.

A really well maintained bike can tone up to 38kms/liter. i hve had some issues but there have'nt been any major ones. Well yes i do complaint about the performance in reagrds to the ZMA (where it start to splutter @ speed of 120kms/hr, unlike the R15) and with the paper filters and teh maual rear braking system.

I really don think, its worth the deal to sell the ZMA for a R15, though both are the best of the breed from Hero Honda and Yamaha. R15 though might surpass the ZMA in some aspects, there is something that binds the rider with the ZMA.

Honestly ZMA RULEZZZ

I had to sell off my Zma few months back, I desperately need a bike but just don't have the heart to ride the R15 over the Zma. Result .. I drive.