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  • Help required in buying a second hand bike

    Hi,

    I'm looking for some help from the experts here to buy a second hand 125-135cc bike.

    I'm looking for a good speed and very good pickup (>>> 100cc) lightweight bike (I consider the 150cc bikes too heavy).

    Looks - not really an issue, but would be a bonus
    Budget - < 35,000 Rs.
    Mileage - Not an issue if the bike is around 10,000 to 20,000 Rs.
    Pickup - Very Important
    Top Speed - Important
    Handling - Quite important
    Comfort - Quite important
    Maintenance - Should be very low.
    Intensity of use - Not much on weekdays, around 50 to possibly 130kms on weekends; will ride even under heavy rains...

    Bikes I have in mind - Yamaha RX 135(very preferrable), Bajaj XCD 125/135 etc... Please feel free to suggest anything else.

    My dilemma

    I'm not very good at bikes from a technical perspective, so I could very easily end up buying a bad bike.
    Time is an other issue, where I find it very difficult to hunt for a good bike.

    My question is
    1) The bike you think I must go for.
    2) Where is the best place to go bike hunting. Are the showrooms reliable? I haven't heard very good reviews about Yamaha showrooms though
    3) What do I need to look for while buying a bike, questions I need to ask etc. I'm not really good at identifying minor flaws.

    Appreciate your help.
    Thanks in advance!

    Cheers,
    Pippo

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    • #3
      The RX 135 is the best when it comes to Pickup, Top speed, handling and comfort, but when it comes to choosing a good second hand 2 stroker, you have to be careful. The bikes you may come across might have (90%) be ripped to the max and not maintained properly.

      Don't let the cosmetics fool ya, the engines on many of the RX's I've seen have been run down to the core and were running oversize, but still had extremely well done exteriors. Mileage and Spares can also be a issue.

      IMHO, that you try out the Discover 135 instead. Pickup, Handling and comfort are the best I've seen in the class. Maintanance should'nt be a issue. Mileage and looks are a major plus. It can do some mild touring without any hassles.

      As far as the other questions are concerned, It's better you search for the bike yourself rather than bidding via dealers. They can be pretty unscrouplous. If you have a good mechanic, ask him to check the vehicle before picking it up. Before you make up your mind check if the vehicle's registeration papers, Tax and Insurance are up to date. Also ask for bills of any major repair work done on the vehicle. Check if there are any major insurance claims on the bike. The Instruction manual, First aid Kit and the tool kits are often ignored by many buyers and sellers. Don't forget the NOC / Re registeration papers if the vehicle is registered in an other state.

      When I bought my shaolin, I prepared 2 receipts, one for me and the other for the seller, and had it signed from him, despite having the Owner's name changed in the RC book at the RTO.

      Hope this helps.

      Cheers

      Ragav
      Last edited by felix.ragav; 10-27-2009, 01:55 AM. Reason: Small changes
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      • #4
        For 30-35K you'll get a very well maintained RX for sure , you can use it and gift it to your children or even grand children

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        • #5
          Being a 2stroker myself, I would advise you against it. Sourcing one in decent condition is no joke. Finding spare parts even for the RX nowadays is becoming difficult and to top it all finding competent mechanics is an evergreen problem. If you have lots of time and patience go for a RX135.

          Also, not all 150cc bikes are heavy. Apache for example is very flickable and light. If performance matters, then I would suggest you to look at 150cc segment too.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by pippo View Post
            Hi,


            Looks - not really an issue, but would be a bonus -
            Budget - < 35,000 Rs.
            Mileage - Not an issue if the bike is around 10,000 to 20,000 Rs.
            Pickup - Very Important
            Top Speed - Important
            Handling - Quite important
            Comfort - Quite important
            Maintenance - Should be very low.
            Intensity of use - Not much on weekdays, around 50 to possibly 130kms on weekends; will ride even under heavy rains...
            Its really a toughest thing to find a good 4 stroker as per your Quote
            But since you have 35,000 in hands - why go for a second hand bike - you can lay your hands on a comfortable New 100cc....
            Add some extra money and go for a Discover 100 or star 110 or Platina 125
            Even Suzuki Heat is also advisable......

            Second hand market is a dark market only few get fruits out of it...
            And also going for an Old two stroker has its own drawbacks..
            But if your still insist go for CT100, Calliber or Boxer
            Hoodibaba is the best among all and its a 115 cc.....

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            • #7
              finding a RX in good condition is tough for sure but have a go.You may eventually find one...I remember reading somewhere long back that yamaha will help out RX and RD customers or something like that...for you requirement RX fits the bill perfectly.You can even consider discover 135 like someone here suggested...
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              • #8
                Thanks guys for this!

                Looks like a RX would be a bad buy, in terms of maintenance/durability etc

                I was offered a 1.5 year old bajaj xcd 125 for rs. 35000... Is that a good deal?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by pippo View Post
                  Thanks guys for this!

                  Looks like a RX would be a bad buy, in terms of maintenance/durability etc

                  I was offered a 1.5 year old bajaj xcd 125 for rs. 35000... Is that a good deal?

                  its definitely a good deal but try to break down the price to a lower amount and i would suggest you that if you are buying that bike you should take a mechanic with you who can just have a look at the engine n tell u if there are any flaws.....

                  hope it will help you....
                  The tourer...
                  tours done:
                  bhanghar trip(tops the haunted place list)
                  sultanpur trip(skipping city life)
                  trip to kota,rajasthan(solo- 1193.7kms)

                  destination Spiti(1835kms) [trip log sponsored]
                  leans in Mussoorie(763kms) [logging soon]
                  got leh'ed june,2012 [looging soon]
                  waiting for next tour....
                  dream destination: Leh (cold desert above the skies...)

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by pippo View Post
                    Thanks guys for this!

                    Looks like a RX would be a bad buy, in terms of maintenance/durability etc

                    I was offered a 1.5 year old bajaj xcd 125 for rs. 35000... Is that a good deal?
                    FYI, RX is one of the most durable m/c in India, 20 year olds still screaming and going great....but as many voice if maintainence is an issue better avoid it.
                    If you are closing in on 35K XCD IInd hand bike, I suggest you to look at HEAT basic model ... brand NEW will be avialable for less than 40K !!
                    HEAT : 5 gear, solid build quality, NEW bike, 2 years you can forget maintainence cost, superb LET, ofcourse you may not like it's look, else it's best buy for your budget !! Owning new bike is altogether different than owning 1.5 year old XCD.....think twice !!

                    ^^ I would rate this above post as one of the best suggestion from me on 'WHAT BIKE' section !!!!

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                    • #11
                      RX 135 it is. No second thoughts about it. This bike matches all your requirements. Light weight, amazing pick up and with the torque it generates, u can be assured of getting a good top speed as well. But be careful in your search. Spend some time looking for a good RX. It will be well worth the wait.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by pippo View Post
                        Thanks guys for this!

                        Looks like a RX would be a bad buy, in terms of maintenance/durability etc

                        I was offered a 1.5 year old bajaj xcd 125 for rs. 35000... Is that a good deal?
                        I would recommend you a new bike. If you can extend your budget a little, you can get a 125 cc bike, else you can get a new bike in that cost.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by moeed View Post
                          I would recommend you a new bike. If you can extend your budget a little, you can get a 125 cc bike, else you can get a new bike in that cost.

                          i agree with that too....new bike means least expenditure on maintenance....
                          The tourer...
                          tours done:
                          bhanghar trip(tops the haunted place list)
                          sultanpur trip(skipping city life)
                          trip to kota,rajasthan(solo- 1193.7kms)

                          destination Spiti(1835kms) [trip log sponsored]
                          leans in Mussoorie(763kms) [logging soon]
                          got leh'ed june,2012 [looging soon]
                          waiting for next tour....
                          dream destination: Leh (cold desert above the skies...)

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                          • #14
                            you can easily get a 2 year old 150 CC machines(eg Unicorn/apache etc.).. If you have any friends in IT sector then try to get from them... usually they are in good condition ..people leaving abroad sell them at good prices. I wouldn't prefer old Pulser (infact any BAJAJ machine which is more then 2 year old, unless its really cheap).. try to find a maintained UNICORN, even if it has done 20k kilometers, engine will be still smooth and good power.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by foruamit2004 View Post
                              you can easily get a 2 year old 150 CC machines(eg Unicorn/apache etc.).. If you have any friends in IT sector then try to get from them... usually they are in good condition ..people leaving abroad sell them at good prices. I wouldn't prefer old Pulser (infact any BAJAJ machine which is more then 2 year old, unless its really cheap).. try to find a maintained UNICORN, even if it has done 20k kilometers, engine will be still smooth and good power.

                              i agree to that....actually all the bajaj engines start producing sound after 2-3 years...so purchasing a second hand bajaj is not a good idea...
                              The tourer...
                              tours done:
                              bhanghar trip(tops the haunted place list)
                              sultanpur trip(skipping city life)
                              trip to kota,rajasthan(solo- 1193.7kms)

                              destination Spiti(1835kms) [trip log sponsored]
                              leans in Mussoorie(763kms) [logging soon]
                              got leh'ed june,2012 [looging soon]
                              waiting for next tour....
                              dream destination: Leh (cold desert above the skies...)

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