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  • Honda CB Twister

    Hi Guys -

    Firstly I want to thank you all for the great work u r doing in this website!!I beleive u would be helping me too in getting a new bike..

    I am from chennai,27 yrs,height 5.7,weight 70 kg..I have not been riding regularly until i was 23 yrs old

    Reasons

    1)Never liked borrowing bikes

    2)father scolded me when i have put down his bike during my learning days in school..after which i never touched that bike although i go in pillion..

    At 23,when i joined my first job I was in need of a bike so my father was generous enough to give his bike as he was having problems driving it..that was a HH CD100..I had no intentions of using it in the city but as i was still not comfortable with city riding by that time i took it..on a additional note my father has ran the bike to only 18000 kms in 15 long years...and the bike was in very good shape..after a couple of months when i have got the confidence to ride in city, i thought of having this bike sold..but much to my disapointment it was not considered for a price of more than 7000 rs even though its engine still had a life of more than 100,000 kms ahead..

    So I made some changes to it like

    1)got the passion head fitted
    2)changed handle bar
    3)coloured wheels rim with red
    4)had stickers all around

    I managed to drive with it for 4 long years and have now driven 50000 kms..its still running good but I have now made the decision to buy a new BIKE and keep CD100 for rough uses(visit to T.NAGAR etc)

    OK What i need in my new bike?i am not a bike geek so here are my basic requirements

    1)60+mileage
    2)good style(dont want to regret later in my 40s that i never drove a sporty looking bike)
    3)less maintenance cost and time
    4)should be comfortable for pillion seater(my wife -she sits both sides mostly and one sided atleast 25%)
    5)solid braking
    6)good service network

    I personally dislike the products of the following for various reasons

    Yamaha
    Bajaj
    TVS

    The only exception was with TVS Flame(I had followed mr.Thunder's ownership thread for months and was almost convinced that i would buy Flame but then came a crisis and my money was gone leaving me with the option of buying bike after 2 months only)

    When I look back now even Thunder has written in the ownership thread that he has started disliking Flame..My Mind finally won over my heart seeing these words and I have decided to forget TVS Falme to..

    That leaves me with HH,Honda & Suzuki

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    GS150 R
    Unicorn
    CBZ XTREME
    Hunk - All are super weights and gives 45km/l which is not ok for me
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    Passion pro
    passion plus
    zeus
    splendour categories etc
    shine - All look very old fasioned which is against my 2nd point above
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    Glamour
    Stunner
    Twister(How lucky I am with this new entry) are the ones left

    - Glamour is 48000(ordinary) & 63000(FI) which I feel very costly
    - Stunner is 61000(ordinary) & 72000(FI) which looks too much for me especially with its split seats...
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    So I have decided the new Guy - Twister - Disc/Alloy/Green colour ---> Its going to cost me 56000 On road

    1)Please write whether I have made the correct choice by deciding Honda Twister?what Drawbacks does it have?please enlighten me

    2)What Additional changes/accessories do i have to get/do?Do u know some Reliable Mechanic in Chennai(Velachery,Thiruvanmiyur,Adyar areas) who can do the ones higlighted in BOLD below just in a few days after I get my bike..I am afraid to take it pududpet..ur thoughts on it

    Number plate - Included on road price
    Free service - 4 services
    Warranty - 3 years Included on road price


    Saree gaurd - Need to buy
    Tank cover - Do i need it?
    Handle grip - Something in Red/Green
    07 sticker - My favourite Number on the Head
    Wheel stickering - Planning to get a Red colour sticker on rims
    Mirrors removed - Wont it increase style?

    Handle bar - planning to Change to Cutting(2/3 piece) Handle bar
    Seat cover - Planning to get Black/Red seat cover
    Engine gaurd - A single Bar not the rounded one
    Engine cowl - would like to get something from out similar to one in Gladiator

    3)What maintenance will the bike need from me? Can anybody direct me to a link or write here where can i understand abour Run In period?

    a)Open Chains are a problem is what I heard? what maintenance is required from me so that it wont become a problem?
    b)I am disliking the Rear Tyre size?I would probably change my Tyre size to a bigger once it looses grip in a couple of years may be(wont mind mileage if its - 5 kms or so)
    c)what other maintenance tips has to be followed

    please Advice..thanks in Advance !!
    Last edited by R2CRAWFORD; 05-20-2010, 06:29 PM.

  • #2
    Welcome to xBhp.

    What are the bikes that you want to buy? And what are your criteria?

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    • #3
      Threads Merged
      The Wheel was a great invention; Two Wheels with a Motor in between was even better!


      BMW Motorrad Days 2011

      Xbhp's Indo-French Kashmir-Ladakh Tour

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      • #4
        good choice mate! twister is a godsend for u. It has sporty styling and good mileage wth the honda reliability

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        • #5
          Thanks Man !!

          Guys - plz comment on the other points ..thanks!!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by R2CRAWFORD View Post
            Mirrors removed - Wont it increase style?
            It may, but at the cost of safety. You need them&please do make a habit of using them. With a helmet especially&turning to the side at higher speeds can be disastrous!

            Saree gaurd - Planning to Get it Fixed from Dealer itself
            If you plan to carry a pillion sideways, see if you can get a ladies'footrest also alonwgwith the saree guard, else it would not make much of a difference.
            If not, then you can do away with the saree guard. That, adds to the sporty look.

            Tank cover - Do i need it?
            I wouldn't get a tank cover with pockets&spoil the sporty look. If you are keen on covering the centre portion of the tank which is more prone to scratches, maybe you can get a tankpad, or a tank cover which is just like a thin strip of rubber running only across the centre of the tank. Maybe my older bike has it-just check in my profile album.

            Handle grip - Something in Red/Green
            If that makes you feel more comfortable, then go for it. I prefer the stock rubber feel on my palms.

            Seat cover - Planning to get Black/Red seat cover
            I think plain black looks the best.

            '07' sticker - My favourite Number on the Head
            Your wish-my bikes have the xBhp official sticker on their heads.

            Wheel stickering - Planning to get a Red colour sticker on rims
            If the bike is green, why not go for green rim stripes? Make sure that they are not too thick, i.e., leave some gap from the sidewalls.

            Teaser sticker - Some Teaser on Rear Mud gaurd
            Why not get text xBhp.com written?

            Helmet - Suggest a place which has diff varieties/Prices
            Not sure about the shops in your area. If you can give me your budget, maybe I can suggest some good models. Look in the Helmets thread also. Also visit this site to get some idea on various helmets&prices: www.thehelmetshoppe.com

            Safety locks - Some Additional Safety? Plz suggest what to buy
            If you are living/parking in a potentially unsafe area, maybe you could think of wheel locks/chains.

            Engine gaurd - A single Bar not the rounded one
            I think the regular one offers more protection.

            Engine cowl - would like to get something from outside market which looks similar to the one in Gladiator
            I'm not in favor of aftermarket mods. If you are insistent, maybe you could see if the new Twister's fits in.

            Handle bar - planning to Change to Cutting(2/3 piece) Handle bar
            Now this would surely void the warranty, as well as upset the balance&handling of the bike. The stock handlebar is really comfy IMO.

            Gear Shift bar - Planning to change it to both sides
            If you love your shoes that much, yes, please check with the mechanic. It has been done by my friend for his new Uni.

            Overall, I feel subtle mods that enhance the visual appeal&function well are good, but stick to stock for getting the best out of your product.
            Quench my thirst with gasoline!

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            • #7
              bike itself is very small why you want to add engine cowl etc ? twister has style in its own way..

              rest like seats,handle bar grip etc you can very well change and go to any sticker shop get all you works done there. They will stick the alloy rims too.
              Rides: HH SPl (2000-2005) | TVS Vic GLX (2005-2010) | S GS150 R (Current)

              Gears: Scoyco JK -17 | Cramster Twister | Cramster Bionics | Vega Boolean

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              • #8
                I had almost decided to buy honda twister for it's fantastic combination of
                minimalistic styling ( which I like ) , great mileage and a sweet 9 bhp Honda engine ... but on close inspection and test drive of the bike i grew several reservations which now makes me think that it's not a "practical" vehicle for Indian conditions .

                1) lack of any storage space - where am i supposed to keep even the bike's ownership tax insurance emission etc papers ? or even a bottle of water or a spare clutch/brake/acc cable ? means I would have to carry a side-bag or back pack everytime i go out with the vehicle . The dealer says and it appears so also , that it would be ugly and almost impossible to fit the bike with a side storage box / pannier . No rail / hook etc anything to tie any stuff / luggage for a long drive .

                2) even if a saree-guard can be fitted the bare chain and open rear makes it very likely for a saree / salwar clad female to get entangled , if she is able to climb up the high narrow rear seat at all .

                3) my city , Calcutta , has heavy and long monsoons and is very muddy and has lots of potholes puddles and waterloging . I am unsure what a daily wash for hours of rain and driving thru slush and sticky mud would do for the open rear chain . I would not like to clean & oil the chain everyday when I am back home wet & tired and need rest and tea instead . I think if honda knew any better about real indian street conditions it would make atleast an optional full chain-cover for it .

                4) leg guard / saree guard not "standard-fitting" for 50k+ Rupees ?? These japs are funny

                5) tank-side faux air scoops are thin plastic and likely to crack if the bike falls or scraped by another vehicle etc , making a costly replacement for just a cosmetic part , it's not connected to the engine or air intake etc in any way .

                6) only toe shifter for gears and no option to fit a full toe-heel shifter too,
                ruins my shoes and impossible to use with sandals , I hate it .
                Pinaki .
                Last edited by Pinaki; 05-09-2010, 09:41 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
                  I had almost decided to buy honda twister for it's fantastic combination of
                  minimalistic styling ( which I like ) , great mileage and a sweet 9 bhp Honda engine ... but on close inspection and test drive of the bike i grew several reservations which now makes me think that it's not a "practical" vehicle for Indian conditions .

                  1) lack of any storage space - where am i supposed to keep even the bike's ownership tax insurance emission etc papers ? or even a bottle of water or a spare clutch/brake/acc cable ? means I would have to carry a side-bag or back pack everytime i go out with the vehicle . The dealer says and it appears so also , that it would be ugly and almost impossible to fit the bike with a side storage box / pannier . No rail / hook etc anything to tie any stuff / luggage for a long drive .

                  2) even if a saree-guard can be fitted the bare chain and open rear makes it very likely for a saree / salwar clad female to get entangled , if she is able to climb up the high narrow rear seat at all .

                  3) my city , calcutta , has heavy and long monsoons and is very muddy and has lots of potholes puddles and laterlogging . I am unsure what a daily wash for hours of rain and driving thru slush and sticky mud would do for the open rear chain . I would not like to clean & oil the chain everyday when I am back home wet & tired and need rest and tea instead . I think if honda knew any better about real indian street conditions it would make atleast an optional full chain-cover for it .

                  4) leg guard / saree guard not "standard-fitting" for 50k+ Rupees ?? These japs are funny

                  5) tank-side faux air scoops are thin plastic and likely to crack if the bike falls or scraped by another vehicle etc , making a costly replacement for just a cosmetic part , it's not connected to the engine orair intake etc in any way .

                  6) only toe shifter for gears and no option to fit a full toe-heel shifter too,
                  ruins my shoes and impossible to use with sandals , I hate it .
                  Pinaki .
                  So to Summarise

                  1)Lack of storage space
                  2)Very High pillion(uncomfortable for women)
                  3)open chain
                  4)More Body Plastic

                  Experts - your opinions please?
                  Last edited by R2CRAWFORD; 05-08-2010, 07:44 AM.

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                  • #10
                    I have , in the meantime also taken test drive of a Bajaj Discover 100cc Dts-si and a friend's few months old HH Passion plus bikes . My observations are mainly the defects which i look for . I am 5'5" and 60 kgs .

                    1) HH passion plus has that very nice HeroHonda quality on all fronts like
                    suspension , switches , paint- finish etc . A bit more noisy than the old splendor plus I have . Gearbox too is a bit notchy and hard than my bike , maybe because it was almost new bike .... but didn't expect this from a bike which HH sells as a step-up from splendor plus !! Lastly the deal breaker for me , it has very bad seat-handle-brake-gears geometry for my height . I can't reach the ground with a flat feet on both sides seated on it !! i can do this comfortably on my old yamaha rx135 / crux and splendor plus . Do try this out , it's very important to reach ground comfortably on both sides if you intend to drive in a city jam or thru a crowded bazaar or say a political procession ( daily in kolkata ) .

                    2) The bajaj discover was great on all fronts except -

                    a) I did not like the unfinished looks of very visible weld-joints on the frame .

                    b) the front-headlight-meters-indicator cowl is Biggg and heavy making
                    turning the handle difficult for me at standstill , unlike my light handled
                    splendor or crux or rx135 .

                    c) the bike's engine turned off several times while braking in 4th-5th gear even with full clutch applied , which the dealer's mechanic said was owing to a new untuned engine , auto-choke feature and my inexperience .
                    My friend's who own this bike says this is usual when new and goes away
                    at a few thousand kilometers ...hmmm .

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                    • #11
                      Why a Newbie's thread like this one getting No Responses?Are people busy only in taking info and not contributing..

                      Or have I posted in a wrong subforum/Group...

                      I even sent PM's to couple of Experts asking for their opinions.but none replied..Expected more from u guys !!!
                      Last edited by R2CRAWFORD; 05-16-2010, 11:19 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Welcome to the forum
                        Originally posted by R2CRAWFORD View Post
                        Why a Newbie's thread like this one getting No Responses?Are people busy only in taking info and not contributing..
                        Dude, there's no point getting frustrated, have you ever responded to Mod's question below on Page 1?
                        Originally posted by ken cool View Post
                        What are the bikes that you want to buy? And what are your criteria?Approved
                        So what is that you need now?
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                        Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by R2CRAWFORD View Post
                          2)What Additional changes/accessories do i have to get/do?Do u know some Reliable Mechanic in Chennai who can do the ones higlighted in BOLD below just in a few days after I get my bike..I am afraid to take it pududpet..ur thoughts on it

                          Handle bar - planning to Change to Cutting(2/3 piece) Handle bar
                          Seat cover - Planning to get Black/Red seat cover
                          Engine gaurd - A single Bar not the rounded one
                          Engine cowl - would like to get something from out similar to one in Gladiator
                          Though I dont really understand what exactly you mean by a "Cutting Handle-Bar" I would IMO advice you not to go in for any after market handle-bar. It changes your riding posture which might affect the rider's stance. The other accessories need hardly any expertise at all, just as long as you don't find the mech trying to pry out your battery for attaching a Saree guard! You can try Hardeep's @ G.P.Road for some of these accessories, and never hesitate to bargain........you never know

                          Originally posted by R2CRAWFORD View Post
                          3)What maintenance will the bike need from me? Can anybody direct me to a link or write here where can i understand abour Run In period?

                          a)Open Chains are a problem is what I heard? what maintenance is required from me so that it wont become a problem?
                          b)I am disliking the Rear Tyre size?I would probably change my Tyre size to a bigger once it looses grip in a couple of years may be(wont mind mileage if its - 5 kms or so)
                          c)what other maintenance tips has to be followed
                          a) Much to many people's misconception O-rings are not a "problem" atleast not as long as you consider it to be. They need about the same amount of lubrication and cleaning as a closed chain, though it never hurts to keep the chain from accumulating too much grit by washing it whenever the bike gets washed and getting it lubricated with either an aerosol chain spray can (PM if you need to know where to get one), or the specified oil in the manual for the drive-chain (I used SAE90 grade oil).

                          b) Other than for it's aesthetic value a fatter tyre will serve you for no other purpose especially in a 110cc bike, whose sole intention of tune is for mileage. Period. You are increasing your rolling resistance and you'll end up losing lot more than just 5kms. You are not going to be actually putting the extra rubber to any use either. It's just an unwanted load on your engine, however small the upgrade may be.

                          c) Keep track of all your consumable parts and replace them at their correct intervals, this itself will save you a lot later, might seem like the bike needs to be spent on at regular intervals but believe me it's a lot better than having to spend a bomb altogether at once. Similarly if you happen to change a part way too soon or frequent get it checked while you still have your warranty.
                          I'm too intelligent to the unintended, and too dumb for the obvious.

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                          • #14
                            Let me know if you have bought CB twister..

                            If not, you might want to wait and check for CB Unicorn dazzler. I would suggest it is stylish and with rear disc brakes (first time from HMSI).

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                            • #15
                              pretty confusing first post there...i'd say,the best alternatives to the twister are HH passion,TVS star city and discover...there's a lot going for and against these bikes.Would be really helpful if you shortlist your requirements and the bikes...
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