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**Aryan** · 08-15-2009, 01:10 AM

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**ichigo** · 08-15-2009, 01:29 AM

Thanks for the approval Aryan Bro.

To add to my prev post, specifically I want to know:

- Has TVS ironed out all niggles in the newer batch? Can anyone, who bought it recently, confirm this?
- Is there any major difference as from FI in RTR180? Couldn't really judge it as I had very short ride on 180 and I had test ride of FI about 10 days back.

About R15, is it worth to buy it when I just need to roam around in the city and that too one with heavy traffic?

I know that there are a couple of persons here who use both R15 and an RTR .. at least I know two .. Aparajith and Joel (if I remember correct) .. guys please let me know is it really a wise decision if I go for an R15 specially against RTR FI and RTR180 and for my use. THANKS A TON.

**dual disc 200** · 08-15-2009, 01:30 AM

Originally posted by ichigo View Post

Thanks for the approval Aryan Bro.

To add to my prev post, specifically I want to know:

- Has TVS ironed out all niggles in the newer batch? Can anyone, who bought it recently, confirm this?
- Is there any major difference as from FI in RTR180? Couldn't really judge it as I had very short ride on 180 and I had test ride of FI about 10 days back.

About R15, is it worth to buy it when I just need to roam around in the city and that too one with heavy traffic?

Think, the right person would be Renny. Renny u there man???

**jasmeetsinghchawla** · 08-15-2009, 08:39 AM

RTR180 to go for it can give P220 a run for money when it comes to performance. It is carbed so less prone to problems plus better tyres at same cot as the Fi.

Has somebody checked the current price of RTR 180, It has been decreased by a 1000 rupees here in Chhattisgarh.

**rennycornelius** · 08-15-2009, 09:12 AM

Originally posted by dual disc 200 View Post

Think, the right person would be Renny. Renny u there man???

yes...
here i come....

Originally posted by ichigo View Post

Budget is primarily 80k but it can be extended if I am really moved by the bike.

Recently R15's beauty specially new colors has also taken my breath away. Though it's price looks really steep, if someone can really convince R15 to be the best bike for as per my requirement, I can try to extend my budget.

"About R15, is it worth to buy it when I just need to roam around in the city and that too one with heavy traffic?"

I know that there are a couple of persons here who use both R15 and an RTR .. at least I know two .. Aparajith and Joel (if I remember correct) .. guys please let me know is it really a wise decision if I go for an R15 specially against RTR FI and RTR180 and for my use.

first thing first if you can really add 30000 or so more to ur budget i'll be the one (infact i'm a die hard fan of RTR ) who'll take you to YAMAHA's showroom in my FI to buy that superb R15......

but if you're not into high speed riding and if ur stint will be in city and that too without getting the itch to scrap the pegs,put ur knee down at evry long curve,then you'll be wasting R15's chasis and brilliant engine package by just puttering around in city that too at 50-60kmph makes no sense....
cuz you can do all this in a bike that'l cost you 30 grand less....

but if you want to experience what truely biking is,straight away buy it..
it's worth those bucks and gives you world class things in the pacakage..(4 valves,LC,DELTABOX FRAME,MONOSHOCk to name a few)

Apar da rides and owns R15 and FI both and he can tell you the exact point of diff among both the beasts....

P.S

FI and 180 provides more grunt than R15 and both are more hooligan in nature than theR15...

Originally posted by ichigo View Post

I had ridden almost all the bikes and now I am stuck primarily(!!) b/w RTR 160 Fi and RTR 180.
I was almost zeroed in on FI but when I read ownership exp on this forum, all the niggles, problems reported here just cut into my confidence on the bike. Now RTR 180 seems to be a better deal but I did love the FI's smooth power delivery and exhaust note.
I had taken a test ride on both the bike and liked both the bikes, but RTR 180 with more goodies @ lesser price looks lucrative but I am still in love with FI .

- Has TVS ironed out all niggles in the newer batch? Can anyone, who bought it recently, confirm this?
- Is there any major difference as from FI in RTR180? Couldn't really judge it as I had very short ride on 180 and I had test ride of FI about 10 days back.

All the probs which the FI was facing (the first and the second batch) has been sorted out by the TVS by changing the injector unit to a bigger and improved one so FI is now rocking all the way....(old one was black in colour and was small compared to the new one which is silver in colour and little bigger)

Given the price tag of 180 its still cheaper than FI by good 3-4 grand and still you get that white colour

,tubeless tyres with 110 at the rear,one inch long but more rigid and thick swingarm (FI's and RTR's swingarm is connected after the mudguard,but 180's connected before it and you can see the diff very clearly),and a carb which allows you to fiddle with the engine for more power and all.....

there's no hell of a diff in the power delievery of both the bikes...

FI revs more quickly and throws the tacho needle much better than the 180..but 180 is more deriavable and it has power spread evenly at all the revs whereas in FI you need to fall in particular RPM (after 4500 it wakes up,it puts Nike's at 6000,and beats P.T. usha after 6500...

),though this state of power comin is almost same in 180 but it calls for fewer gear shifts,(may be those puny 20 cc's and little more NM's helpin in the department),

And man the way it sounds while doin it cannot be compared with the 180..

to feel the diff in the power of both the bikes you need a track to feel whr and how these bikes are better in thr powerbands and all those 20cc's and 1.03 P.S do is add more to the top end...(it runs on 46 tooth rear sprocket too and FI on 44)

my advise is to go for the 180 (and if you can insist dealer that to put FI’s non cat exhaust in 180 to get that note but then you’ll be polluting the environment) as you're getting all the extra goodies at a lesser price,same god handling package,superb brakes,and a little more poke which in expert's hands will beat FI in track as well as in twisties...

FOR both FI and 180:

1.for the city riding that you'll most of the time doing,you have to keep the bike in low gear,it will massage you from 5200-6000 real good.

2.FI is more fuel efficient than the 180 and in 4000-5000 riding will award you with 60-65 kmpl

( i get 45-50 with my kinda riding that includes shifts at 9000RPM 80% of the time)

3.no maintainence issues will be thr with both and now with improved injector unit you wont be reading complains for Fi in the thread too.(read my 500km report on the new injector system thr)

4.It'll be really tiring in long tours thanks to the aggressive riding position and the vibes that make totally impossible (specially in the FI) to ride at 75-80 as it makes the most vibes thr and generally it's the touring speed.

**chauhan_saurabh** · 08-15-2009, 03:22 PM

To help him, renny pointed to post: http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post264600

**ichigo** · 08-16-2009, 12:51 AM

Thanks Renny!!

With all the comments from you guys, I am almost glued to RTR 180. Are tyres better on this than FI? Or should I try to talk to dealer to get some other tyre -- is it a feasible option?

Still I am open for suggestions from Aparajith and others who own both an RTR and an R15 as I am planning to buy it next month.

**santoosh** · 08-16-2009, 12:59 AM

R15 is bakwaas if it has to be ridden in the city . gets heated quckly , Fan comes on , No low end for the city ,

All negatives compared to a rtr.

160 or 180 both are good ,
The 20cc aint really gonna matter when u are just using it for the city use.

If i were u , i would go in with the FI ,
Move on with technology man , No hassle of tuning it every now and then , No pblms with cold starts , No richening pblm .

In short no carbs no more 4 me.

the 1.** PS aint the matter .
See what suits your likes.

Santa

**ichigo** · 08-16-2009, 03:08 AM

Originally posted by santoosh View Post

R15 is bakwaas if it has to be ridden in the city . gets heated quckly , Fan comes on , No low end for the city ,

All negatives compared to a rtr.

160 or 180 both are good ,
The 20cc aint really gonna matter when u are just using it for the city use.

If i were u , i would go in with the FI ,
Move on with technology man , No hassle of tuning it every now and then , No pblms with cold starts , No richening pblm .

In short no carbs no more 4 me.

the 1.** PS aint the matter .
See what suits your likes.

Santa

Thanks guys, all for your help.

I guess this is from someone who uses R15 himself, and I take your words on that.

On RTR FI, I just love that bike so I do RTR 180

.. but as I see better deal on 180 I am tending towards it. But can someone suggest me the best dealer in Bangalore who can agree to change rear(even at some cost) of FI? I mean they can arrange some good exchange for the new tyre. And I assume problems with FI are sorted out, then I am just on for FI.

As 180 is supposed to have better tyres, more stable chassis and supposedly no niggles .. I was thinking of it over FI.

**santoosh** · 08-16-2009, 03:52 AM

R15 can be ridden around the city , But its not as much fun as the RTR

**vishnuu** · 08-16-2009, 07:59 AM

Just listen to your heart as both the bikes has got their advantages, if i were in your position i may have choosed 180 for its color, tires & xtra 20 cc..

But undoubtedly Fi is superior in technology & even agree with Santosh with his earlier post

**NitinGirish** · 08-16-2009, 11:24 AM

I rode both R15 & A180 (in that order) back to back. I deliberately did not take R15 beyond 60 and I have to say it felt pathetic.

A180 felt much more 'alive' inspite of having a pillion! The showroom guy (Bridgestone TVS, lousy) wouldnt let me ride alone. As a city tool A180 wins hands down.

If biking is your indulgence reserved for weekends on race tracks... For your requirements A180 it is, as you have rightly seem to be inclined towards

**bharat9** · 08-16-2009, 01:09 PM

i have purchased apache 180 2 days before and i am luving this beast coz of its stability,sticky tyres and power delivery....go for it

**HydBiker** · 08-16-2009, 08:10 PM

Originally posted by santoosh View Post

R15 can be ridden around the city , But its not as much fun as the RTR

+1 on that if only for City. If you gotta take it on to the highways now and then, then you'd love to have the R15 and wouldn't mind its mild low end power and comparatively difficult maneuvering in traffic so much.

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