The Official Pune Offline Meet(G2G) Thread

[TenHut]

BTW Has anyone experienced opening the throttle Mid Corner to take a tighter line ?

I am doing it on a regular basis now and its kinda hard to believe it works since I always thought that opening the throttle makes the bike stand up ! But opening it Mid Corner increases the lean angle for me.
Can anyone conform ?

[niranjanvaidya]

BTW Has anyone experienced opening the throttle Mid Corner to take a tighter line ?

I am doing it on a regular basis now and its kinda hard to believe it works since I always thought that opening the throttle makes the bike stand up ! But opening it Mid Corner increases the lean angle for me.
Can anyone conform ?

There are many approaches and different styles to this. When you’re on the throttle, the front is light and the bike will run wide. When you close it, the front is heavy and the bike will steer faster...this is the thumb rule. Many riders will open the throttle if they are running into the apex earlier than needed. This will cause them to go wider.

In some cases, riders subconsciously increase body weight on the inner and forward while opening the throttle mid corner. This compensates the natural reaction of the bike on throttle.

Perhaps, you can try and note whether you subconsciously shift weight and body position.

[TenHut]

Perhaps, you can try and note whether you subconsciously shift weight and body position.

When opening the throttle I AM CONSCIOUSLY shifting the body weight increasingly towards the inside of the corner. Yes I am doing it.
But still...the end result is that I am using the throttle to fall to the inside.

As I am typing its making more sense to me already.
I go on increasing the weight bias to the inside of the turn thereby leading to less lean angle of the bike itself. I now have more traction so I feel at home to crack open the throttle. The body weight is still being shifted to the inside so I am continually falling inside and I wrongly think I am falling because of the throttle.

All of the above is happening ofc within a few seconds. It cannot be done on a long left/right handers but can only be done on short turns which you get done with pretty quickly.

It also feels a lot safer to do the above for short turns. Atleast to me..

My true question I guess is : does anyone else do this ? does this feel safer too because of the increase in traction ?

[niranjanvaidya]

When opening the throttle I AM CONSCIOUSLY shifting the body weight increasingly towards the inside of the corner. Yes I am doing it.
But still...the end result is that I am using the throttle to fall to the inside.

As I am typing its making more sense to me already.
I go on increasing the weight bias to the inside of the turn thereby leading to less lean angle of the bike itself. I now have more traction so I feel at home to crack open the throttle. The body weight is still being shifted to the inside so I am continually falling inside and I wrongly think I am falling because of the throttle.

All of the above is happening ofc within a few seconds. It cannot be done on a long left/right handers but can only be done on short turns which you get done with pretty quickly.

It also feels a lot safer to do the above for short turns. Atleast to me..

My true question I guess is : does anyone else do this ? does this feel safer too because of the increase in traction ?

Yup, I do it a lot of times...when the long wheelbase of my bike prevents me from a tighter line. But one needs to have complete confidence and faith in their bike, tyres and feel.
Increasing the stiffness of the suspension on the rear also gives you an extra edge in corners, especially mid corner changes.

[TenHut]

Question :
when aiming to take a corner if you lean ahead with your chest against the tank ( Ninja ) the bike leans more as compared to sitting somewhat straight on the bike. By sitting striaght i dont mean not getting ur ass off the bike. You can get your ass of the bike and also bend forward. bending forward lowers the CG. Getting the ass off and not bending forward doesnt lower the CG so you dont have to lean the bike as much. Which one is better ?
Bending forward certainly looks like you are going faster though !

[trustvishwas]

by the way there is one more deadlier and poisonous reptile called as green snake, which even makes the eagles cry by eating off their eggs.

Agreed. But does your deadlier and poisonous reptile has a red helmet?

[Motorcyclist]

My vote in the Vishwas vs TenHut war...
Green if I am riding where I need attention...Black at night...looks like an intruder...like a predator...like a panther poised to attack!!!

The Parrot comparison is wonderful...but remember, most girls like the parrots...and the guys...prefer....

RUNNING FOR COVER!!!

Ok One question for the gurus...when cornering it is better to have a stiffer setup. Now, on my bike, i have a 5 step adjustable rear shock. currently set to the middle setting (3 if I may say)...when is it stiffer??? and when is it softer? how do I understand!

[TenHut]

My vote in the Vishwas vs TenHut war...
Green if I am riding where I need attention...Black at night...looks like an intruder...like a predator...like a panther poised to attack!!!

The Parrot comparison is wonderful...but remember, most girls like the parrots...and the guys...prefer....

RUNNING FOR COVER!!!

Ok One question for the gurus...when cornering it is better to have a stiffer setup. Now, on my bike, i have a 5 step adjustable rear shock. currently set to the middle setting (3 if I may say)...when is it stiffer??? and when is it softer? how do I understand!

Motorcyclist you are this close to getting banned !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1



I am not a Guru but I shall indulge myself in answering your question to whatever capacity I can.
Stiffer suspension is cool for cornering. But too stiff a suspension is uncool.
It loses valuable travel ( up and down motion of suspension is important to the handling of a bike ) and your wheel wont stick to the road as good if the suspension is set to being too stiff. Will also result in stability issues.
But softer suspension is all the more dangerous for cornering as you can flatout bottom your forks and whichever suspension (front or rear) you bottom it WILL GIVE and you WILL kiss the tarmac.

As with everything...finding the right balance rewards you the most.

For your bike if you have preload settings you will understand what they are at by running over a few irregularities on the road. Stiffer suspension will carry every bump to your bum..softer will feel mushy. I dont know what bike you have so cant say whether 3 is soft or hard.The real gurus can answer that i am sure.

[niranjanvaidya]

Question :
when aiming to take a corner if you lean ahead with your chest against the tank ( Ninja ) the bike leans more as compared to sitting somewhat straight on the bike. By sitting striaght i dont mean not getting ur ass off the bike. You can get your ass of the bike and also bend forward. bending forward lowers the CG. Getting the ass off and not bending forward doesnt lower the CG so you dont have to lean the bike as much. Which one is better ?
Bending forward certainly looks like you are going faster though !

Bending forward is most definitely the right way. The forward and out movement allows weight transfer on the front and changes the dynamics of the bike (read CG and various forces on the bike).

[Motorcyclist]

Motorcyclist you are this close to getting banned !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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Arre...Didnt you see what I wrote...Vishwas bhai married so doesnt need girls attention...you need it...SHIMPLE honly...now the difference is Alok will feel bad...because you seek attention from girls! ...

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[TenHut]

Arre...Didnt you see what I wrote...Vishwas bhai married so doesnt need girls attention...you need it...SHIMPLE honly...now the difference is Alok will feel bad...because you seek attention from girls! ...

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I have dumped inflammable and he has moved on with his life (they say with one of those black Ninja guys or something. Not that I care !)

And when girls do give me some attention the Horsepower seems to be the bigger attraction to them than the green Ninja !

[shrinathrao]

Agreed. But does your deadlier and poisonous reptile has a red helmet?

nooo red helmet as everything is green

[shrinathrao]

hey i had a small query. what are this projected headlights and what kind of setup is required to install this headlights inside the fairing

[shrinathrao]

This just came in my mind so thought of discussing with all of you, during my last meet at roopali there were some talks about working out on a good thick quality denim kinda jackets which will fall cheaper and give good protection also.

Satyen had given up some valuable input also regarding the same and i think the discussion was about to carry out further, so everyone of the members can have a protection armour kind of jacket but then i think it didnt take off, so i thought of reminding you all that if we can go forward and buy those jackets at a lesser rate either by bulk order or any other way around i think that can helpful to many of them who cant afford the costly dsg jackets.

[satyenpoojary]

This just came in my mind so thought of discussing with all of you, during my last meet at roopali there were some talks about working out on a good thick quality denim kinda jackets which will fall cheaper and give good protection also.

Satyen had given up some valuable input also regarding the same and i think the discussion was about to carry out further, so everyone of the members can have a protection armour kind of jacket but then i think it didnt take off, so i thought of reminding you all that if we can go forward and buy those jackets at a lesser rate either by bulk order or any other way around i think that can helpful to many of them who cant afford the costly dsg jackets.

Yes that would be me... Had this idea for making road safety affordable to all!

I was also looking at some custom made designs (inspired from ICON and all) and having them made by a friend. There are a lot of products that comes with CE approved padding on Denim jackets...

The Jacket I wanted to design was simple:
Extra 'denim' padding at shoulder, spine, and elbow... a Zip front, a zipped vent on both biceps...and zipped vents near lower back for ventilation

Unfortunately I am in a bit of over working mode now @ office so no time to put it into a design....
if any body of you can be kind enough to work out a design, add edit and amend to it... I can rope in a big brand guy to make it in limited numbers.... (of course without the branding, so cheaper)

PS: This would be NO substitute to proper leather\mesh\textile gear sans the armour.