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Old 11-21-2011, 11:43 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Are you sure about the bold part?? I mean come on, you can maintain a Honda city with that kind of money for service. To me, it sounds like lot of exaggeration, no offense meant. If you go for 4 or 5 of these type of services, i'm pretty sure you will end up with a brand new bike, I mean literally you can change most of the parts in a bike with that kind of money. And yeah, may be it's a bit too much to expect 45-50kmpl from 180cc bike.

TS, you got pretty decent options for that kind of budget.

Look at bikes like P150/Suzuki GS150R/Hunk/CBZ/Unicorn/Discover 150/Yamaha SZ-R. Since you got enough moola, you can go with GS150R/P150. They meet your expectations of mileage, will be a real upgrade for you as you are already using 125cc bike. Looking at spares availability/SVC availability it's better to go with P150. It's tried and tested, dirt cheap to maintain. I've used P135LS for almost a year, my only bills were for fuel and oil change. So, I can confidently say you can buy a Bajaj bike without hesitation.

But, yeah it's always better to take a test drive of available options, which will help you a lot.
have a look at the current quality of bajaj and i am damn sure that you will find it to be worst quality 150cc. after 1 year it will sound like a 10 year old motorcycle.
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Old 11-22-2011, 12:09 AM   #12 (permalink)
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have a look at the current quality of bajaj and i am damn sure that you will find it to be worst quality 150cc. after 1 year it will sound like a 10 year old motorcycle.
Would you like to support your blanket statement with some facts & figures? I'm damn sure you haven't used a Pulsar. Refrain from making such claims. How come it's selling so well, if it is of worst quality?

On what basis are you saying quality is worst? would be good if you base your comments on facts, rather than opinions.
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Would you like to support your blanket statement with some facts & figures? I'm damn sure you haven't used a Pulsar. Refrain from making such claims. How come it's selling so well, if it is of worst quality?

On what basis are you saying quality is worst? would be good if you base your comments on facts, rather than opinions.
Quality of bajaj is not even at par with any honda, suzuki or even HH motorcycles. for example- chain life, timing chain life, engine noice(after 1 year of usage), finishing of product, durability of parts, silencer rusting issues, vibrations after few thousand kms

I know one mechanics at bajaj and according to them current lot of bajaj is the worst. He advised me this when we went for bike selection for my cusion. And he is very well experienced mechanic and very close friend of mine. He said that dont even look at P135 and platina 125.

I am not a critic of bajaj nor any other company is paying me for this. I have 5 years old Discover and it is performing just OK because quality of bajaj at that time was fine. But still there was silencer rusting, front shocker leakage, oil leakage from head(top) of engine, timing chain noice and few more.

But looking at their current quality they are the worst in the market. Quality of their product has dropped considerably. Even those who are using current crop of platina and pulsars are saying them chinese. You can easily hear timing chain noice of bajaj motorcycles after few thousand kms.

For more assurance you can compare Unicorn and GS150R with pulsar 150. you can see at their carburetors, engine parts quality, chain quality, plastic quality and even the bulbs used in the indicators.

Even I want to buy bajaj products because it is and Indian company. But they are changing models like anything and cannot even maintain spare for them.
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Old 11-22-2011, 11:36 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Quality of bajaj is not even at par with any honda, suzuki or even HH motorcycles. for example- chain life, timing chain life, engine noice(after 1 year of usage), finishing of product, durability of parts, silencer rusting issues, vibrations after few thousand kms

I know one mechanics at bajaj and according to them current lot of bajaj is the worst. He advised me this when we went for bike selection for my cusion. And he is very well experienced mechanic and very close friend of mine. He said that dont even look at P135 and platina 125.

I am not a critic of bajaj nor any other company is paying me for this. I have 5 years old Discover and it is performing just OK because quality of bajaj at that time was fine. But still there was silencer rusting, front shocker leakage, oil leakage from head(top) of engine, timing chain noice and few more.

But looking at their current quality they are the worst in the market. Quality of their product has dropped considerably. Even those who are using current crop of platina and pulsars are saying them chinese. You can easily hear timing chain noice of bajaj motorcycles after few thousand kms.

For more assurance you can compare Unicorn and GS150R with pulsar 150. you can see at their carburetors, engine parts quality, chain quality, plastic quality and even the bulbs used in the indicators.

Even I want to buy bajaj products because it is and Indian company. But they are changing models like anything and cannot even maintain spare for them.
TS.. big sorry for going OT, but posts like this often get better of me

Being an engineer, i'm not too convinced about your "mechanic's explanation". Again you just don't have any basis to determine quality, simply saying mechanic says quality is bad If you don't like any developments in products, stick to HH.. They still sell you the same CD100 engine in splendor NXG. Let's not start brand wars here, it's just your perception that quality is worst now, truth is far from that. Pulsars only got better with time. I don't understand where you got this engine noise thingy, and what's that got to do with quality of the bike. It depends on how you maintain a bike.

Rusting is prevalent in all bikes, don't believe me? just look around, you will find even Karizma's with rusting silencer. So, please don't give me that crap of Honda/japs are about quality blah, blah. since you mentioned about spares, Bajaj spares for current models are available everywhere, if your model of Discover is discontinued, that's another story. Just compare cost of discpads of Unicorn, with that of Pulsar. You will know why maintaining Pulsar is so light on pocket.
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TS.. big sorry for going OT, but posts like this often get better of me

Being an engineer, i'm not too convinced about your "mechanic's explanation". Again you just don't have any basis to determine quality, simply saying mechanic says quality is bad If you don't like any developments in products, stick to HH.. They still sell you the same CD100 engine in splendor NXG. Let's not start brand wars here, it's just your perception that quality is worst now, truth is far from that. Pulsars only got better with time. I don't understand where you got this engine noise thingy, and what's that got to do with quality of the bike. It depends on how you maintain a bike.

Rusting is prevalent in all bikes, don't believe me? just look around, you will find even Karizma's with rusting silencer. So, please don't give me that crap of Honda/japs are about quality blah, blah. since you mentioned about spares, Bajaj spares for current models are available everywhere, if your model of Discover is discontinued, that's another story. Just compare cost of discpads of Unicorn, with that of Pulsar. You will know why maintaining Pulsar is so light on pocket.
You seem like you have never had any other bike other than the pulsar. I agree that Bajaj bikes are at par with any other bikes of same category. Although except few drawbacks which any bikes can have like the hard seats on P135 I dont know of any major issue which would make anyone say don't buy Bajaj especially for what price he gives you the bike.

Since everyday a lot of bajaj bikes come in for service, the SVC usually changes oil and give it a wash and say servicing done.

Its naturally our job to check for job done and get any issues rectified then and there or claim for warranty, dont listen to those idots at SVC who say that you can adjust. In such case, there won' be any issue with the Bajaj bike giving any trouble at all. Also I strictly feel the quality of spares is at par with cost i.e How much you pay, so much of quality you get policy. So if you are willing to spend a lot on spares the person can go for HH/Honda. I on the other hand dont prefer to, which I why I narrowed down between Pulsar 150 and Yamaha SZR and chose yamaha as it was cheaper. It was pure decision of what was good at that point, nothing to do with Bajaj or quality.
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Are you sure about the bold part?? I mean come on, you can maintain a Honda city with that kind of money for service. To me, it sounds like lot of exaggeration, no offense meant. If you go for 4 or 5 of these type of services, i'm pretty sure you will end up with a brand new bike, I mean literally you can change most of the parts in a bike with that kind of money. And yeah, may be it's a bit too much to expect 45-50kmpl from 180cc bike.

TS, you got pretty decent options for that kind of budget.

Look at bikes like P150/Suzuki GS150R/Hunk/CBZ/Unicorn/Discover 150/Yamaha SZ-R. Since you got enough moola, you can go with GS150R/P150. They meet your expectations of mileage, will be a real upgrade for you as you are already using 125cc bike. Looking at spares availability/SVC availability it's better to go with P150. It's tried and tested, dirt cheap to maintain. I've used P135LS for almost a year, my only bills were for fuel and oil change. So, I can confidently say you can buy a Bajaj bike without hesitation.

But, yeah it's always better to take a test drive of available options, which will help you a lot.
Sorry dude, no offence meant, he did spend like 2-5k each service for about 2 or 3 times (yeah, he never used to give the bike to service on time, the bike would run anywhre around 100km a day so once in 2-3 month service ment 7K km+) and since it was one or the other part which was worn out due to my friends negligence and on part of SVC not to change the small thing at regular interval in advance he always ended up paying more and he never bothered or got it checked with any local mechanic .. Wht i learnt from this was it dont matter how many days, the kilometers and riding conditon matter, and even if going to service once every month is a pain we need to do it for the better life of the bike.

Anyways upon the service engineers recommendation a total overhaul was done, engine rebored etc at once for about 14k and now he has no issues, bike is like a new one and gives around 40km/l mileage.

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You seem like you have never had any other bike other than the pulsar. I agree that Bajaj bikes are at par with any other bikes of same category. Although except few drawbacks which any bikes can have like the hard seats on P135 I dont know of any major issue which would make anyone say don't buy Bajaj especially for what price he gives you the bike.
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Well, I did ride lot of other bikes, but owned only P135LS. With my limited riding experience, Pulsars were the most impressive.
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Quality of bajaj is not even at par with any honda, suzuki or even HH motorcycles. for example- chain life, timing chain life, engine noice(after 1 year of usage), finishing of product, durability of parts, silencer rusting issues.............. But still there was silencer rusting, front shocker leakage, oil leakage from head(top) of engine, timing chain noice and few more.
Even those who are using current crop of platina and pulsars are saying them chinese. You can easily hear timing chain noice of bajaj motorcycles after few thousand kms.
Even I want to buy bajaj products because it is and Indian company. But they are changing models like anything and cannot even maintain spare for them.
Dude, Bajaj spares are the cheapest and easily found. Regarding rusting, my Karizma has rust deposits in almost all the screws holding the fairing. So, don't just judge the quality that way. Bajaj products are inferior in no way...

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Pulsars only got better with time. I don't understand where you got this engine noise thingy, and what's that got to do with quality of the bike. It depends on how you maintain a bike.

Rusting is prevalent in all bikes, don't believe me? just look around, you will find even Karizma's with rusting silencer.........since you mentioned about spares, Bajaj spares for current models are available everywhere, if your model of Discover is discontinued, that's another story. Just compare cost of discpads of Unicorn, with that of Pulsar. You will know why maintaining Pulsar is so light on pocket.
+1 bro.... Pulsar spares are readily available and cheap... Whereas for Hero/Honda, you need to wait for a considerable amount of time and they cost a bomb.

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You seem like you have never had any other bike other than the pulsar. I agree that Bajaj bikes are at par with any other bikes of same category. Although except few drawbacks which any bikes can have like the hard seats on P135 I dont know of any major issue which would make anyone say don't buy Bajaj especially for what price he gives you the bike.
It was pure decision of what was good at that point, nothing to do with Bajaj or quality.
Now that's a valid reason. We shouldn't blame machines. Due to a few negligent riders, Bajaj gets bad name...

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Well, I did ride lot of other bikes, but owned only P135LS. With my limited riding experience, Pulsars were the most impressive.
+1.... Couldn't agree more.... Cheers....
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