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  • A replacement for my Honda Stunner.

    Hi,

    I ride my brothers Honda Stunner currently, and I am looking for a slightly more powerful and faster bike. I am ready to spend anything below 75k. With the ever rising cost of fuel, it becomes necessary and a compulsion to keep fuel economy in mind. A CONSISTENT Mileage of anything over 45 kmpl would be gr8 .
    I mostly ride in the city but when i get my own steed i would love to spend more time on it and go for long rides, so riding comfort is as important as any other feature of the bike like power or refinement. I am fine with fairing or naked look.
    I don't really mind any make or brand.

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    • #3
      Hero Impulse?

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      • #4
        If you would like to stick to Honda, then look for unicorn Dazzler (Hero CBZ or Hero Hunk which shares the same engine), If you'd like to shell more then ZMA or ZMR or even CBR, when your budget permits.

        Other options Yamaha SZX slighty heavier and faster than stunner providing a similar mileage or little lesser.

        Also you could check out the Pulsars and the TV'ses.
        Current
        Yamaha FZ25(‘17)
        Renault Koleos(‘13)
        Sold
        Hyundai Accent-2000
        KTM390 2015
        Hero Honda ZMR 2010
        Honda Unicorn-2005
        TVS victor-2004
        Kinetic GF Lazer-2003
        LML Adreno-2000
        Bajaj Super-1999
        KB125-98
        Bajaj Chetak-90
        Yezdi Roadking-88
        Rides
        Jan’18(Duke 390)Bang<>Madikeri 600kms
        Oct’14(ZMR)Bang<>(Kerala)640kms
        Dec’11(ZMR)Bang-Pune City-Mumbai-Bangalore 2.5k Kms
        Drives(1k+)
        2020(Koleos)Bang<>Mumbai~2.2k kms
        2019(Koleos)Bang-Goa-Mumbai~2.5k
        2017(Scorpio)Bang <>Mumbai~2k
        2011(Scorpio)Mumbai-Bang~1k

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        • #5
          Originally posted by manrajj18 View Post
          Hi,

          I ride my brothers Honda Stunner currently, and I am looking for a slightly more powerful and faster bike. I am ready to spend anything below 75k. With the ever rising cost of fuel, it becomes necessary and a compulsion to keep fuel economy in mind. A CONSISTENT Mileage of anything over 45 kmpl would be gr8 .
          I mostly ride in the city but when i get my own steed i would love to spend more time on it and go for long rides, so riding comfort is as important as any other feature of the bike like power or refinement. I am fine with fairing or naked look.
          I don't really mind any make or brand.
          Looking out for a more powerful bike in 75k and you even want mileage??
          Tough question.

          The only bikes which give you better power than the Stunner are the 150cc horses. Your can ignore all 150cc bikes except pulsar150, CBZ extreme/Hunk, Yamaha SZR since they are beyond your reach by atleast 5K to 10k rupees.

          Regarding the mileage, you cannot expect more than 40-50kmpl from any of the above bikes. If someone says I get above 50kmpl on a 150cc bike, then he must be riding an unicorn or riding at real low rpm on top gear shift and not living within city, perhaps some village or on outskirts.

          I own a Yamaha SZ-R and get a mileage of about 44-49kmpl, but I wouldn't recommend it to you since your budget is lot more than mine. My first choice was honda stunner/shine, or go for discover 150. But then I test drove the Yamaha SZR. The 153cc, same engine as in FZ16 felt like calling my attention. The bike was heavier than others in my choice within 60K budget, it gave good response at low rpm, with very good torque so you could pull away without much gear changes and gave decent fuel economy and top end model at about 67K was really good since the price difference from any other 75k-80K 150cc bike would in life time of this bike settle for any difference in cost I face on mileage. The engine is ofcourse reliable as we have seen with all the Yamaha FZ/fazers.

          I did not choose Bajaj as cost of bike maintenance sky rockets once you cross 3-4years. I have a friend who owns a Pulsar 180 and its a good macho machine. But you will never know the expense it incurrs. He gets a mileage of about 35kmpl in city which is decent enough for his riding. But he also shells 2 to 5k at each service interval. Mind it he has only done 40K km on odometer and bike already feels old. I am not saying that bajaj is bad, but for the price of the bike, I would expect a little more durability of parts.

          But if I did have some more money i would go for the CBZ extreme. It felt butter smooth like a unicorn but heard it has its share of problem like chain issues and starting trouble, but if maintained well by servicing at regular interval it gives good mileage of about 40-50kmpl. I said "what??" to the sales guy. But I heard they give 60+, and he said "yes sir, that was bikes before the BSIII emission norms. These vehicles wont give much, I will be frank that 40-50+ also is depending on your riding style" and I said, its better i stick to Yamaha then!

          So don't take anyones advice. Try out the bikes and choose the one you like most., Regarding the mileage : Rather stick to your stunner if you want 60kmpl.
          There are no short-cuts to any place worth going. So ride safe when you are treading uncharted roads.

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          • #6
            Go for Cb Unicorn..very comfortable & Fuel Efficient Bike...
            Don't Honk Unnecessarily

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            • #7
              honda unicorn or Honda unicorn dazzler.
              2004 Bajaj Discover 125
              2010 Cannondale CAAD9-5
              2010 Cannondale Bad Boy
              2011 yamaha SZ-R

              Every time I see an adult on a bicycle I no longer despair for the future of the human race.
              -H.G. Wells

              For instance, the bicycle is the most efficient machine ever created: Converting calories into gas, a bicycle gets the equivalent of three thousand miles per gallon.-Bill Strickland

              Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live.


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              • #8
                Hey,go for cbz extreme.slim trim,fast,f+r disk brakes,digi consoles,comfortable,splited seats,refined engine and better fe,and much more and of course hero motocorp quality .you will never regret. Best of lucks.
                BORN TO RIDE!!

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                • #9
                  my li'l opinian

                  you can go for honda dazzler ..of FZ 16..if most of the times you will be riding into city.
                  got bhp?? oh yeah..its Xbhp

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by prajnyan View Post
                    I did not choose Bajaj as cost of bike maintenance sky rockets once you cross 3-4years. I have a friend who owns a Pulsar 180 and its a good macho machine. But you will never know the expense it incurrs. He gets a mileage of about 35kmpl in city which is decent enough for his riding. But he also shells 2 to 5k at each service interval. Mind it he has only done 40K km on odometer and bike already feels old. I am not saying that bajaj is bad, but for the price of the bike, I would expect a little more durability of parts.
                    Are you sure about the bold part?? I mean come on, you can maintain a Honda city with that kind of money for service. To me, it sounds like lot of exaggeration, no offense meant. If you go for 4 or 5 of these type of services, i'm pretty sure you will end up with a brand new bike, I mean literally you can change most of the parts in a bike with that kind of money. And yeah, may be it's a bit too much to expect 45-50kmpl from 180cc bike.

                    TS, you got pretty decent options for that kind of budget.

                    Look at bikes like P150/Suzuki GS150R/Hunk/CBZ/Unicorn/Discover 150/Yamaha SZ-R. Since you got enough moola, you can go with GS150R/P150. They meet your expectations of mileage, will be a real upgrade for you as you are already using 125cc bike. Looking at spares availability/SVC availability it's better to go with P150. It's tried and tested, dirt cheap to maintain. I've used P135LS for almost a year, my only bills were for fuel and oil change. So, I can confidently say you can buy a Bajaj bike without hesitation.

                    But, yeah it's always better to take a test drive of available options, which will help you a lot.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by vrugonnab View Post
                      Are you sure about the bold part?? I mean come on, you can maintain a Honda city with that kind of money for service. To me, it sounds like lot of exaggeration, no offense meant. If you go for 4 or 5 of these type of services, i'm pretty sure you will end up with a brand new bike, I mean literally you can change most of the parts in a bike with that kind of money. And yeah, may be it's a bit too much to expect 45-50kmpl from 180cc bike.

                      TS, you got pretty decent options for that kind of budget.

                      Look at bikes like P150/Suzuki GS150R/Hunk/CBZ/Unicorn/Discover 150/Yamaha SZ-R. Since you got enough moola, you can go with GS150R/P150. They meet your expectations of mileage, will be a real upgrade for you as you are already using 125cc bike. Looking at spares availability/SVC availability it's better to go with P150. It's tried and tested, dirt cheap to maintain. I've used P135LS for almost a year, my only bills were for fuel and oil change. So, I can confidently say you can buy a Bajaj bike without hesitation.

                      But, yeah it's always better to take a test drive of available options, which will help you a lot.
                      have a look at the current quality of bajaj and i am damn sure that you will find it to be worst quality 150cc. after 1 year it will sound like a 10 year old motorcycle.
                      2004 Bajaj Discover 125
                      2010 Cannondale CAAD9-5
                      2010 Cannondale Bad Boy
                      2011 yamaha SZ-R

                      Every time I see an adult on a bicycle I no longer despair for the future of the human race.
                      -H.G. Wells

                      For instance, the bicycle is the most efficient machine ever created: Converting calories into gas, a bicycle gets the equivalent of three thousand miles per gallon.-Bill Strickland

                      Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live.


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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by anandsharma021 View Post
                        have a look at the current quality of bajaj and i am damn sure that you will find it to be worst quality 150cc. after 1 year it will sound like a 10 year old motorcycle.
                        Would you like to support your blanket statement with some facts & figures? I'm damn sure you haven't used a Pulsar. Refrain from making such claims. How come it's selling so well, if it is of worst quality?

                        On what basis are you saying quality is worst? would be good if you base your comments on facts, rather than opinions.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by vrugonnab View Post
                          Would you like to support your blanket statement with some facts & figures? I'm damn sure you haven't used a Pulsar. Refrain from making such claims. How come it's selling so well, if it is of worst quality?

                          On what basis are you saying quality is worst? would be good if you base your comments on facts, rather than opinions.
                          Quality of bajaj is not even at par with any honda, suzuki or even HH motorcycles. for example- chain life, timing chain life, engine noice(after 1 year of usage), finishing of product, durability of parts, silencer rusting issues, vibrations after few thousand kms

                          I know one mechanics at bajaj and according to them current lot of bajaj is the worst. He advised me this when we went for bike selection for my cusion. And he is very well experienced mechanic and very close friend of mine. He said that dont even look at P135 and platina 125.

                          I am not a critic of bajaj nor any other company is paying me for this. I have 5 years old Discover and it is performing just OK because quality of bajaj at that time was fine. But still there was silencer rusting, front shocker leakage, oil leakage from head(top) of engine, timing chain noice and few more.

                          But looking at their current quality they are the worst in the market. Quality of their product has dropped considerably. Even those who are using current crop of platina and pulsars are saying them chinese. You can easily hear timing chain noice of bajaj motorcycles after few thousand kms.

                          For more assurance you can compare Unicorn and GS150R with pulsar 150. you can see at their carburetors, engine parts quality, chain quality, plastic quality and even the bulbs used in the indicators.

                          Even I want to buy bajaj products because it is and Indian company. But they are changing models like anything and cannot even maintain spare for them.
                          2004 Bajaj Discover 125
                          2010 Cannondale CAAD9-5
                          2010 Cannondale Bad Boy
                          2011 yamaha SZ-R

                          Every time I see an adult on a bicycle I no longer despair for the future of the human race.
                          -H.G. Wells

                          For instance, the bicycle is the most efficient machine ever created: Converting calories into gas, a bicycle gets the equivalent of three thousand miles per gallon.-Bill Strickland

                          Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live.


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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by anandsharma021 View Post
                            Quality of bajaj is not even at par with any honda, suzuki or even HH motorcycles. for example- chain life, timing chain life, engine noice(after 1 year of usage), finishing of product, durability of parts, silencer rusting issues, vibrations after few thousand kms

                            I know one mechanics at bajaj and according to them current lot of bajaj is the worst. He advised me this when we went for bike selection for my cusion. And he is very well experienced mechanic and very close friend of mine. He said that dont even look at P135 and platina 125.

                            I am not a critic of bajaj nor any other company is paying me for this. I have 5 years old Discover and it is performing just OK because quality of bajaj at that time was fine. But still there was silencer rusting, front shocker leakage, oil leakage from head(top) of engine, timing chain noice and few more.

                            But looking at their current quality they are the worst in the market. Quality of their product has dropped considerably. Even those who are using current crop of platina and pulsars are saying them chinese. You can easily hear timing chain noice of bajaj motorcycles after few thousand kms.

                            For more assurance you can compare Unicorn and GS150R with pulsar 150. you can see at their carburetors, engine parts quality, chain quality, plastic quality and even the bulbs used in the indicators.

                            Even I want to buy bajaj products because it is and Indian company. But they are changing models like anything and cannot even maintain spare for them.
                            TS.. big sorry for going OT, but posts like this often get better of me

                            Being an engineer, i'm not too convinced about your "mechanic's explanation". Again you just don't have any basis to determine quality, simply saying mechanic says quality is bad If you don't like any developments in products, stick to HH.. They still sell you the same CD100 engine in splendor NXG. Let's not start brand wars here, it's just your perception that quality is worst now, truth is far from that. Pulsars only got better with time. I don't understand where you got this engine noise thingy, and what's that got to do with quality of the bike. It depends on how you maintain a bike.

                            Rusting is prevalent in all bikes, don't believe me? just look around, you will find even Karizma's with rusting silencer. So, please don't give me that crap of Honda/japs are about quality blah, blah. since you mentioned about spares, Bajaj spares for current models are available everywhere, if your model of Discover is discontinued, that's another story. Just compare cost of discpads of Unicorn, with that of Pulsar. You will know why maintaining Pulsar is so light on pocket.
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                              Originally posted by vrugonnab View Post
                              TS.. big sorry for going OT, but posts like this often get better of me

                              Being an engineer, i'm not too convinced about your "mechanic's explanation". Again you just don't have any basis to determine quality, simply saying mechanic says quality is bad If you don't like any developments in products, stick to HH.. They still sell you the same CD100 engine in splendor NXG. Let's not start brand wars here, it's just your perception that quality is worst now, truth is far from that. Pulsars only got better with time. I don't understand where you got this engine noise thingy, and what's that got to do with quality of the bike. It depends on how you maintain a bike.

                              Rusting is prevalent in all bikes, don't believe me? just look around, you will find even Karizma's with rusting silencer. So, please don't give me that crap of Honda/japs are about quality blah, blah. since you mentioned about spares, Bajaj spares for current models are available everywhere, if your model of Discover is discontinued, that's another story. Just compare cost of discpads of Unicorn, with that of Pulsar. You will know why maintaining Pulsar is so light on pocket.
                              You seem like you have never had any other bike other than the pulsar. I agree that Bajaj bikes are at par with any other bikes of same category. Although except few drawbacks which any bikes can have like the hard seats on P135 I dont know of any major issue which would make anyone say don't buy Bajaj especially for what price he gives you the bike.

                              Since everyday a lot of bajaj bikes come in for service, the SVC usually changes oil and give it a wash and say servicing done.

                              Its naturally our job to check for job done and get any issues rectified then and there or claim for warranty, dont listen to those idots at SVC who say that you can adjust. In such case, there won' be any issue with the Bajaj bike giving any trouble at all. Also I strictly feel the quality of spares is at par with cost i.e How much you pay, so much of quality you get policy. So if you are willing to spend a lot on spares the person can go for HH/Honda. I on the other hand dont prefer to, which I why I narrowed down between Pulsar 150 and Yamaha SZR and chose yamaha as it was cheaper. It was pure decision of what was good at that point, nothing to do with Bajaj or quality.
                              There are no short-cuts to any place worth going. So ride safe when you are treading uncharted roads.

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