Jeevan25

Hello!!

It may be seems wired as I am confused between two separate league of bikes. I am looking forward to have a new bike and I looking for a bike which can serve me at-least half of my life untill I upgrade for any SBK. Infact I went ahead and already booked a RE TBTS.

Now you might be thinking why there is confusion when once I already booked? I agree, I do have a strong desire for bullets. But getting scared of problems associated with it. And my reason for considering Karizma as second option because, it is a very reliable bike from decades.

I looking forward for a bike which I can take to anyplace without giving second thought about any problems associated with it. I want such a bike where I didn't need to spend money everyday for small small problems. My requirement for the bike, which will serve the purpose of a comfortable tourer, can easily cross 100kmph, convenient for commuting in city traffic. My mind is filled with various mix emotion's and thoughts. So help me and show me light.

I am acquiring this new ride with my own hard earned money. Moreover I am a very good care taker of my rides, so also looking for same reciprocity towards me from my ride.

Thanking in advance!!

sunilg

Query approved.

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Guru_DTSi

If you are worried about the niggles of an enfield, go ahead with the ZMA. However, since your budget is more than 1 lakh, why don't you check out the CBR250R as well?

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jayanth_b_p

I own a TBTS and yes their are a minor problems that you might have to deal with but i dont think those are major issues . You can take the bike anywhere the only problems you might face are chain becomes loose, blown fuse , clutch cable breakdown. And for cruising over 100km/hr i can tell you that TBTS is not the bike not because its not capable its definitely capable but you is the one who might need to hold the handle as you might experience an earthquake!!! i mean vibrations are almost impossible to tolerate over 95km/hr. The cruising speed of the bike is 80-95km/hr and over 100 while overtaking. The bike can cruise for hours without a sweat. And the Karizma is also is pretty good bike and is also one of the best tour er better TD both the bike on highway if possible then decide.

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Jeevan25

I test drive CBR 250...but not up to my expectation and more over there is some loan issue as well.

But your feedback is most welcome!!

Vishakh

Karizma is a good bike ( I am a proud owner). It is still a head turner on the roads (well atleast at my place ). The bike easily crosses 100 and can do 115 with just a twist of the throttle. And the suspension is much more better. Good seating position also.

The bike has very good handling and stability you won't feel you crossed 100. It is in the category of sports tourer that is best of both worlds it can do justice in city as well as in highways. Of course its way less torquey than the RE 's. But still its enough.

Well there are issues with Karizma too ( don't worry dude just small things ). The thing is no crash guard( can be fitted afterwards) and if you crash it takes some time to get it repaired. And tappet adjustments are required often. And fairings might rattle after sometime whereas RE's are solid metal bikes.

It gives pretty neat economy also ( 40 for my style in city )

I also had a confusion and I settled for Karizma and I am satisfied with it 100%. Always bring a smile on my face at the end of the day.

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prajnyan

Karizma anyday!

When it comes to maintenance and ride comfort and fuel economy its better than the RE. Its true other refined bikes like cbr250 exist, which are oil cooled, go way faster etc. But since you said you have issues with loan approval, I guess it just narrows down to Karizma. You can however check Bajaj Pulsar 220, its oil cooled unlike Karizma which needs a break every 100km or more you never need to stop Pulsar, its engine is dezined for better pick up, maintenance is almost same here, but you also get 55W projector headlamps for very good bright roads in night, the Karizma 35W AC lamps are very poor, also karizma comes with tube type tyres which is issue if you get a flat tyre when you are going long.. Test ride and find out about Pulsar 220 too. But personally i dont like the Pulsar although its refined and better on sheet, there are very few engine issues at all in this ver of pulsar, only the chain wear out faster, and some say tyres are not ment for highspeeds, if thats so you can however try the Avenger which is fine to ride on long distances and gives a pretty good ownership experience than RE, but i hear Bajaj Gearbox is a bit harsh, but whatever ppl say on it. The chance of your Avenger failing is more or less same as compared to the ThunderBird and would be the same as compared to any other bike in the competitive market with a life of 5yr.. I would still stick to Karizma, and second choice Pulsar220

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jayanth_b_p

I wont agree with the above statement The thunderbird offers way more comfort than the zma and the fuel economy is almost the same.

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prajnyan

Disagreed, I have personally experienced it to say clean and clear that RE needs a lot of care.
The Fuel economy of Thunderbird in city is 26-35kmpl, and it goes down every year passed by, whereas Karizma will surely give you above 34kmpl in city.

Thunderbird is more of a Highway/Ringroad ride where you can get 40+ mileage, also it doesnt vibrate at higher speed, its more of a cruiser. But the cost of maintaining it after 5yr has become so much that its parked at home itself and its RTR160 thats used. Thunderbird is only for long trips now. Also you cannot easily zigzag in RE like you do on Karizma. You will agree with me after you do 30-40000km.

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Above_All

From where that came ? Karizma is tourer bike , you can contineously ride on it , it won't show any stress sign . Let the fellow Karizma owners speak out on this .

Is there any model of Karizma came with a AC headlight ? As far as i know & found both Karizma R & Karizma ZMR came with DC 35 watt headlight , which can be upgraded to 55 watt without any issue .

Yes Karizma R came with a tube tyre , but if you want then you can fit a tubeless tyre in it .