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    Quote Originally Posted by somen1984 View Post
    I am not larger my friend i am very average heighted 5.5' Ft

    But now it's very clear that you need some good mileage bike becuase SZ does give 45kmpl+ and 50+kmpl on highways. But it's your choice.

    Well, I'm not considering SZ because its power is 12BHP, and for that power 45 mileage in city is less IMO. Dazzler/Hunk/Xtreme all have simiar mileage and give lots more power (14 , 14.4 and 14.4 BHP) and Unicorn/GS150R/Pulsar have both higher power (13.3, 13.8 and 15 BHP) and higher mileage (50+ in city). Instead I'm considering other 150cc bikes in same price range, like Discover 150 and Achiever that have 55+ highway mileage.

    Yes i have seen many riders of 6ft riding rx or samurai or shogun and believe me it won't make a difference to you in terms of comfort. It will be same. But yes ST/SZ/Unicorn/Dazzler/GS150/ have little more comfortable riding postions than Shine/Yuga/Boxer/Splendour etc.

    Well you said it yourself. I've ridden my friend's unicorn and found it 10x more comfortable than my Samurai. 2-Strokers were/are not friendly to those of bigger build due to vibes, small frames, light weight and short lengths.

    Friend any 100cc bike would give you a very decent average!!

    But yes comfort won't. Comfort means RE/Avengers only.
    Obviously Cruisers have much more comfort but they are out of price-range. And I'm definitely buying a Thunderbird 500 in a couple of years when I get the cash
    Answers in bold. I need atleast 55 mileage in city even under spirited riding which the SZs do not match and fall short by 10kmpl.
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    what about honda stunner..?? it is also a good bike.. with good mileage..

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    Quote Originally Posted by vishalrimt View Post
    what about honda stunner..?? it is also a good bike.. with good mileage..
    Overpriced @68k (which I cannot spend), and it vibrates at speeds over 55.

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    Are you sure Discover 150, Acheiver and Pulsar gives 50kmpl+ in city ??

    Still i am septical.

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    If you need reltively high speed cruising on highway as your daily commute, the only 2 things that are on your side are 1. Horsepower, 2. Fairing.

    Ideally you should get a bike with both, but since that doesn't fit the budget and FE requirement even remotely, we need to check your other options.

    4 of the 7 bikes in your shortlist produce between 13-13.5 horses (The rest are 11 or less).

    A test ride on all 4 should help you shortlist w.r.t. height /size.

    The FE *should* be Discover 125ST > Pulsar 135LS = Discover 150 > Achiever

    If you are worried about the Bajaj bikes overheating, let me remind you that Duke, P200NS are the very 1st mass market LC Naked bikes in India. In the absense of a fairing, the radiator fan has nowhere else to throw hot air apart from the rider's legs. Its all about getting used to how those bikes are.

    Coming to the bikes in this set, The 150s will be more effortless to ride but will return comparatively lower FE. The other 2 are high revving 4 valve engines, but high revving doesn't mean high heat. The bikes are tested at least a for a couple of lakh kms before launch, People have done SaddleSores on the P135, so you can rest assured that there won't be any unnecessary overheating, not least in the 40-70 kph band.

    Hope you use the weekend to TR all the bikes and then report how you felt about each of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antz.bin View Post
    If you need reltively high speed cruising on highway as your daily commute, the only 2 things that are on your side are 1. Horsepower, 2. Fairing.

    Nope, relatively high speed cruising here only means attacking larger emptier roads I may come across on early morning rides occasionally without the bike struggling.

    Just for the reference, Outer Ring Road Bangalore is like this road that goes in a circle around the whole of Bangalore City. Its big yes but since every tom, dick and harry who has to work in another part of the city rides/drives on it, its often a medium to slow speed road (30 to 55kmph avg speed on it) with a small jam every 10-15km or so.

    Ideally you should get a bike with both, but since that doesn't fit the budget and FE requirement even remotely, we need to check your other options. This is exactly how I expected my question to be interpreted. Thanks a lot.

    4 of the 7 bikes in your shortlist produce between 13-13.5 horses (The rest are 11 or less).

    A test ride on all 4 should help you shortlist w.r.t. height /size.

    The FE *should* be Discover 125ST > Pulsar 135LS = Discover 150 > Achiever which is why I've been waiting for the damned "Sports Tourer" from Bajaj to hit the zillions of Bajaj showrooms littered around bangalore

    If you are worried about the Bajaj bikes overheating, let me remind you that Duke, P200NS are the very 1st mass market LC Naked bikes in India. In the absense of a fairing, the radiator fan has nowhere else to throw hot air apart from the rider's legs. Its all about getting used to how those bikes are.

    You mean to say the heat felt on the legs riding Duke200 or P200NS should be equivalent to that felt riding CBR250R/Ninja/R15 WITHOUT the fairing ?

    Coming to the bikes in this set, The 150s will be more effortless to ride but will return comparatively lower FE. The other 2 are high revving 4 valve engines, but high revving doesn't mean high heat. The bikes are tested at least a for a couple of lakh kms before launch, People have done SaddleSores on the P135, so you can rest assured that there won't be any unnecessary overheating, not least in the 40-70 kph band.

    Well there is one reason I considered the 4-valve bikes and some 125cc bikes here. Even if torque and power are lesser on 125cc bikes, since I ride solo 100% of the time it should be easier to manage.

    Hope you use the weekend to TR all the bikes and then report how you felt about each of them.

    This week sadly I'm held up with other things. Don't think I can start TRing till week after next week I posted this thread in advance so that I can be a little more informed while TRing and know if my options are right or not.
    Replies in bold.

    Oh and one more question. Among the bikes I listed and also counting some other similar bikes, Yamaha SS125, SZ-R, HMC Achiever and Suzuki Hayate don't come with gas-charged rear suspension. Do you think this will mean they are less comfortable than the Nitrox suspension in Bajaj bikes ? Just curious.

    Trouble with suspension is I cannot get the REAL feel of them as being more or less unless I do a 20km or 30km ride which I doubt a showroom will allow. Any solution you can think of ?

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    If outer ring road == NICE road or something similar to NICE road, I have seen it and have a pretty good idea what that is. That's the reason I mention horsepower and not torque .

    Had your route not been on those access controlled highways, the 150s would have been the better choices due to their extra torque.

    For an XL test ride, assure the showroom guy that you will fill fuel and then keep your License with the showroom guy while you ride out. He has to agree if he wants to make a sale.
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    Absolutely !!! True !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by antz.bin View Post
    If outer ring road == NICE road or something similar to NICE road, I have seen it and have a pretty good idea what that is. That's the reason I mention horsepower and not torque .
    NO!!! ORR is much MUCH slower and its size varies from 2-lane to 4-lane to 6-lane at different places and sections are dug up due to hopeless and never-ending bangalore metro rail work. Plus you have suicidal idiots crossing the road without regard for their (or others') safety.

    NICE Road feels nice to ride on (most Bangalore based sites/mags do test rides on it), ORR feels nice only if you are riding when there is very little human life on it - 6:30AM or 11PM type rides. I ride early morning at 7AM when I leave home, but my return time is usually in the chaotic 7pm to 8pm range.

    Had your route not been on those access controlled highways, the 150s would have been the better choices due to their extra torque.
    I need enough torque for stop-start traffic so that my bike just *moves* ahead. I need to go through the middle of the city on the way back sometimes. I think anything above 10nm should be enough for this ???

    For an XL test ride, assure the showroom guy that you will fill fuel and then keep your License with the showroom guy while you ride out. He has to agree if he wants to make a sale.
    Leave my license at the showroom ?
    I'm a guy who never lets people touch his bike, laptop or mobile phone and you want me to leave my sole identification document at the showroom ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by MHG View Post
    NO!!! ORR is much MUCH slower and its size varies from 2-lane to 4-lane to 6-lane at different places and sections are dug up due to hopeless and never-ending bangalore metro rail work. Plus you have suicidal idiots crossing the road without regard for their (or others') safety.

    NICE Road feels nice to ride on (most Bangalore based sites/mags do test rides on it), ORR feels nice only if you are riding when there is very little human life on it - 6:30AM or 11PM type rides. I ride early morning at 7AM when I leave home, but my return time is usually in the chaotic 7pm to 8pm range.

    I need enough torque for stop-start traffic so that my bike just *moves* ahead. I need to go through the middle of the city on the way back sometimes. I think anything above 10nm should be enough for this ???
    Higher torque is needed if there will be a LOT of instances of slowing down / getting back upto speed. Bumper to bumper traffic is something even a 100cc can easily manage. I mean what will you do with the extra power in Bumper to bumper traffic? I guess you will know what you need wen you ride them.

    Quote Originally Posted by MHG View Post
    Leave my license at the showroom ?
    I'm a guy who never lets people touch his bike, laptop or mobile phone and you want me to leave my sole identification document at the showroom ??
    If you feel uncomfortable that way, then take a friend along who will keep an eye on your document when you are gone. The Showroom sales guy is also taking a risk of handing you over a bike without riding pillion with you. (== thats the way I like my TRs) it is only fair that you hand him something you value in return.
    Advice is a form of nostalgia.
    Dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it's worth.

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