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  • #61
    Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
    Once upon a time back in 2010, I had TRed Unicorn, Dazzler, FZ, Hunk, Apache, Pulsar 135, Pulsar 150 and Discover 150 (in that order) back to back in 1 day. I was going from showroom to showroom on my P220 with my roomie who wanted a new bike for 100% city usage.

    The only bike which could bring a smile on my face was the Discover 150 and I kid you not. I really wanted someone else to feel the same way, and now we have one such person.

    IMO the only reason it is not famous amongst xBHPians is because it looks exactly identical to the Discover 100. Thats the only thing BAL needed to change to get this bike flying off the shelves (not that it doesn't now ), instead they went one better and introduced the 125ST. Lets see how you feel about it 2 weeks from now.
    Well, I'm actually wondering if I should even bother with the ST if I should wait 2 months to get my hands on it. You could say I am spoilt by the Discover 100 4G and the Discover 150.

    Discover 100 seems more than enough for commuting, and especially in traffic jams, it has enough juice to effortlessly pull from standstill thanks to exhaustec. And its a lot more VFM, if I consider its mileage. And about the bold part, for the exact same reason, Discover 100 seems like a premium product compared to other 100cc to 110cc bikes

    Discover 125 ST would have been nice, but if you look at its price, being 2.5k above Discover 150 makes me wonder if its worth waiting for it. Only thing keeping me waiting is the 5kmpl (claimed) increase in mileage over Discover 150 that will help me a LOT because my daily run is minimum 60 kilometers.

    Quick Questions:
    1. What does complete disc brake kit of Discover 125 cost ? If I go with Discover 100, I could install a disc brake setup later.
    2. Since I've finalized its mostly gonna be a Bajaj, someone tell me if Kalyani Bajaj @ Mekhri Circle Bangalore is a good dealership or not, especially service and the like.
    Currently without a vehicle. Uber App and Bangalore Metro serving all my travel needs.

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    • #62
      @MHG, kudos to you for your comprehensive research before taking plunge. As far as disk set up is concerned, I don't think it's advisable as it might make Discover 100 unstable on breaking owing to it's tyre size. I do understand your concern with FE, but instead of trying that modification, it might be better to go for Discover 125/150 which come with that setup from factory. I'm really not a big fan of after market mods, but after all it's your choice.

      @MODS, I think this thread deserves to be a sticky as TS has put down valuable inputs in this thread from his test rides.
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      • #63
        Originally posted by vrugonnab View Post
        @MHG, kudos to you for your comprehensive research before taking plunge. As far as disk set up is concerned, I don't think it's advisable as it might make Discover 100 unstable on breaking owing to it's tyre size. I do understand your concern with FE, but instead of trying that modification, it might be better to go for Discover 125/150 which come with that setup from factory. I'm really not a big fan of after market mods, but after all it's your choice.
        Nope, Discover 100 and 125 share the same tyre size. Only the threading pattern is different.

        My idea was that if the kit to modify drum setup to disc setup isn't too expensive (~4k is fine), I could get Discover 100 for mileage reasons. If I'd gone for 125 instead, I'd be upset that I missed buying a newer bike with identical mileage but higher performance, and if I'd gone for 150 instead I'd be upset that I missed buying a newer bike with identical performance but higher mileage. If it doesn't work out, I'll need to wait it out for anywhere between 2 weeks and 2 months for the Discover 125 ST which is avoidable
        Currently without a vehicle. Uber App and Bangalore Metro serving all my travel needs.

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        • #64
          ^^ Got you! I always thought tyre sizes of 125 & 100 are different! (from the looks of it) query on the disk set up should go to the below thread

          best bike modifiers and mechanics - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community
          http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/universal-threads/10868-best-bike-modifiers-mechanics.html
          The gold mine of all the topics which are frequently discussed..


          and there is a nice DIY thread as well, if you inted to do that

          Rear disc brake on yam FZ16, ...and others - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community
          http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/universal-threads/20178-rear-disc-brake-yam-fz16-others.html
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          • #65
            Originally posted by MHG View Post
            Nope, Discover 100 and 125 share the same tyre size. Only the threading pattern is different.

            My idea was that if the kit to modify drum setup to disc setup isn't too expensive (~4k is fine), I could get Discover 100 for mileage reasons. If I'd gone for 125 instead, I'd be upset that I missed buying a newer bike with identical mileage but higher performance, and if I'd gone for 150 instead I'd be upset that I missed buying a newer bike with identical performance but higher mileage. If it doesn't work out, I'll need to wait it out for anywhere between 2 weeks and 2 months for the Discover 125 ST which is avoidable
            Why do you need a Disc ??? When your 100/125cc don't need it. Disc is for higer speed and the use is best there only!

            Mostly i guess any 100cc/125cc is best without any Disc only coz drum are more than sufficeint to use. Disc calls unnecessary maintenance which is higher than Drum. Why to increase the expense, when you are looking for mileage than no sense going daily above 100kmph, which will impact your engine and cut down your mileage!!

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            • #66
              Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
              Why do you need a Disc ??? When your 100/125cc don't need it. Disc is for higer speed and the use is best there only!

              Mostly i guess any 100cc/125cc is best without any Disc only coz drum are more than sufficeint to use. Disc calls unnecessary maintenance which is higher than Drum. Why to increase the expense, when you are looking for mileage than no sense going daily above 100kmph, which will impact your engine and cut down your mileage!!
              Well, disc is not just for stopping from 80 or 100. Even for stopping from 50km/h in Bangalore disc brakes are helpful as the vehicle stops quickly and in Bangalore it makes more sense.

              About the bold part, what extra maintainance is needed with disc brakes and what does it cost ? I always thought its cheaper to maintain discs because frequent use needs drums to be replaced often and this works out to be expensive.
              Currently without a vehicle. Uber App and Bangalore Metro serving all my travel needs.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by MHG View Post
                Well, disc is not just for stopping from 80 or 100. Even for stopping from 50km/h in Bangalore disc brakes are helpful as the vehicle stops quickly and in Bangalore it makes more sense.

                About the bold part, what extra maintainance is needed with disc brakes and what does it cost ? I always thought its cheaper to maintain discs because frequent use needs drums to be replaced often and this works out to be expensive.
                +1 for everything.
                @Somen do you have figures to support your claims on increased maintenance?

                If you need any help collecting data, I can help because I am in a BAL SVC right now and can give you prices of whatever you need.

                Apart from the improvements in braking, a disc brake setup is more reliable because, unlike a cable operated brake, there is no cable here which can break. 1 less spare you need to carry when on tour.

                @MHG The total for Discover 125 2v for entire front disc setup comes to Rs.3,253 for spares only.
                Last edited by antz.bin; 07-13-2012, 02:53 PM.
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                Dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it's worth.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
                  If you need any help collecting data, I can help because I am in a BAL SVC right now and can give you prices of whatever you need.

                  Apart from the improvements in braking, a disc brake setup is more reliable because, unlike a cable operated brake, there is no cable here which can break. 1 less spare you need to carry when on tour.

                  @MHG The total for Discover 125 2v for entire front disc setup comes to Rs.3,253 for spares only.
                  Yes please, if you could find out total cost including service for changing drum to disc for Discover 125 or Discover 100 it would be great.
                  Currently without a vehicle. Uber App and Bangalore Metro serving all my travel needs.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by vrugonnab View Post

                    @MODS, I think this thread deserves to be a sticky as TS has put down valuable inputs in this thread from his test rides.
                    I agree Big Time. This thread should be an ideal example on how to choose the right bike for oneself. I commend the hard work put by MHG and the desire to share his research here so that others could be benefited.
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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by MHG View Post
                      Yes please, if you could find out total cost including service for changing drum to disc for Discover 125 or Discover 100 it would be great.
                      Reconfirmed, apparently more parts need to be changed.

                      Front alloy wheel is different, the one on drum d100 doesn't have mounts for the disc itself.
                      Right side fork outer black part is different (that's where the calliper is mounted.)
                      The rest cost of the assembly I have posted.

                      The total will come very close to 10k if you change everything.

                      Just met up with a Boxer BM150 owner who has come in for his 2nd service. The bike returns 60-65kmpl.
                      Last edited by antz.bin; 07-13-2012, 03:42 PM.
                      Advice is a form of nostalgia.
                      Dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it's worth.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by MHG View Post
                        Well, disc is not just for stopping from 80 or 100. Even for stopping from 50km/h in Bangalore disc brakes are helpful as the vehicle stops quickly and in Bangalore it makes more sense.
                        In that sense it's like you wait for end time braking!! in a traffic what speed a bike can go ?? 40-60kmph and drum brake is quite efficient!!
                        why to brake at end point ??
                        Originally posted by MHG View Post
                        About the bold part, what extra maintainance is needed with disc brakes and what does it cost ? I always thought its cheaper to maintain discs because frequent use needs drums to be replaced often and this works out to be expensive.
                        Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
                        +1 for everything.
                        @Somen do you have figures to support your claims on increased maintenance?
                        .
                        in traffic drum and Disc would behave same!! and it will be worn out at same time!! But cost on disc pad is more.
                        Drum would be on 125Rs and Pad would be at 210Rs, it was my Aspire service cost, price might have changed little but pads are always more expensive than Drum

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
                          in traffic drum and Disc would behave same!! and it will be worn out at same time!! But cost on disc pad is more.
                          Drum would be on 125Rs and Pad would be at 210Rs, it was my Aspire service cost, price might have changed little but pads are always more expensive than Drum
                          What if I told you that both, the Discover 125 Drum's front brake shoe and the Disc version's brake pad cost exactly the same ? (Both cost Rs.150, just confirmed)
                          Advice is a form of nostalgia.
                          Dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it's worth.

                          Antz Travelz!! | South India Exploration Ride | Leh Triplog (Work in progress)

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by somen1984 View Post


                            in traffic drum and Disc would behave same!! and it will be worn out at same time!! But cost on disc pad is more.
                            Drum would be on 125Rs and Pad would be at 210Rs, it was my Aspire service cost, price might have changed little but pads are always more expensive than Drum
                            Are you kidding me???
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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
                              What if I told you that both, the Discover 125 Drum's front brake shoe and the Disc version's brake pad cost exactly the same ? (Both cost Rs.150, just confirmed)
                              than anytme a Disc brake !! why not a advance tech in same cost!!

                              Originally posted by Eshan-P180 View Post
                              Are you kidding me???
                              Don't belive check it Friend!! Disc pad and Drums are no more a heaven quality but durable appprox same time!!

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
                                than anytme a Disc brake !! why not a advance tech in same cost!!



                                Don't belive check it Friend!! Disc pad and Drums are no more a heaven quality but durable appprox same time!!
                                This is my 4th bike - 2 on drums and 2 on discs over the period of 8years, buddy i can bet on Disc Brakes any day... Iam not telling you that you apply them like a fool and skid the front, but something known as pumping the brakes... works quite well.

                                Please stop misleading members by quoting wrong information...
                                Last edited by Eshan-P180; 07-13-2012, 05:22 PM.
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