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  • #31
    Update...

    (still unable to find time to test ride bikes - should be free by end of month or early next month)

    Slightly different use-case I want to discuss about before finalizing options. I go to college in the morning and work part-time as a developer in the evening, so need to often carry 2 bags - one with lots of books and another with a heavy 15.6" laptop. That or a single really heavy laptop bag. Right now vacations so working full-time and have a relatively lighter bag.

    My current ride (Samurai) is comfortable when I travel without any luggage but travelling home with lots of luggage on peak hour night traffic is really painful. I think its because of the position/posture of my back when I am carrying luggage. What kind of structuring in a bike would address this problem ?
    Currently without a vehicle. Uber App and Bangalore Metro serving all my travel needs.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by MHG View Post
      Update...

      (still unable to find time to test ride bikes - should be free by end of month or early next month)

      Slightly different use-case I want to discuss about before finalizing options. I go to college in the morning and work part-time as a developer in the evening, so need to often carry 2 bags - one with lots of books and another with a heavy 15.6" laptop. That or a single really heavy laptop bag. Right now vacations so working full-time and have a relatively lighter bag.

      My current ride (Samurai) is comfortable when I travel without any luggage but travelling home with lots of luggage on peak hour night traffic is really painful. I think its because of the position/posture of my back when I am carrying luggage. What kind of structuring in a bike would address this problem ?

      Mostly all answers are already given by Antz.bin...

      Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
      Isn't arched back == straight back (slightly bent backwards so that the chest is up)? This is what my gym instructor told me . Because thats how I keep my riding position, not bent forward.

      Anyways, whatever the terminology, the back should be straight .

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      Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
      Read the link I gave. The back position should be bent backwards/chest up on all bikes. No forward curves business. If you have to bend forward due to the riding position of the bike, you bend from near the waist, not the upper/mid back.
      Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
      None of the bikes in your shortlist have rearsets since all of them are supposed to be commuters and not track/sports bikes (regardless of whatever the S in the ST/LS might stand for).

      Arched back denotes a healthy spine, thats how you are supposed to keep it all the time regardless of where the footpegs are.
      Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
      If you need reltively high speed cruising on highway as your daily commute, the only 2 things that are on your side are 1. Horsepower, 2. Fairing.

      Ideally you should get a bike with both, but since that doesn't fit the budget and FE requirement even remotely, we need to check your other options.

      4 of the 7 bikes in your shortlist produce between 13-13.5 horses (The rest are 11 or less).

      A test ride on all 4 should help you shortlist w.r.t. height /size.

      The FE *should* be Discover 125ST > Pulsar 135LS = Discover 150 > Achiever

      If you are worried about the Bajaj bikes overheating, let me remind you that Duke, P200NS are the very 1st mass market LC Naked bikes in India. In the absense of a fairing, the radiator fan has nowhere else to throw hot air apart from the rider's legs. Its all about getting used to how those bikes are.

      Coming to the bikes in this set, The 150s will be more effortless to ride but will return comparatively lower FE. The other 2 are high revving 4 valve engines, but high revving doesn't mean high heat. The bikes are tested at least a for a couple of lakh kms before launch, People have done SaddleSores on the P135, so you can rest assured that there won't be any unnecessary overheating, not least in the 40-70 kph band.

      Hope you use the weekend to TR all the bikes and then report how you felt about each of them.

      You have to look for alternatives Dude!! Heavy bag can also be a problem, Get a sadle bags type stuffs, so that you can keep your bags in that saddle bags! There are variety of sizes available.

      Other part every one has already gave you thier suggestion, but you are puling this and that points.

      It's very clear a person with back pain can have only Awenger/TBTS/RE bikes only..... But they are not mileage oriented. If you need mielage and straight seats then you have to opt for GS150r, it won't be that comfortable as cruisers are. But would be comfortable as compare to any other bikes.

      Now we can't suggest more my friend! We do understand college/work/etc mileage is imp for your pocket, comfort is imp for your back.

      But you have to see for alternatives Dude!! Check for Discover ST too.
      Last edited by Guest; 06-21-2012, 04:17 PM.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by MHG View Post
        Update...

        (still unable to find time to test ride bikes - should be free by end of month or early next month)

        Slightly different use-case I want to discuss about before finalizing options. I go to college in the morning and work part-time as a developer in the evening, so need to often carry 2 bags - one with lots of books and another with a heavy 15.6" laptop. That or a single really heavy laptop bag. Right now vacations so working full-time and have a relatively lighter bag.

        My current ride (Samurai) is comfortable when I travel without any luggage but travelling home with lots of luggage on peak hour night traffic is really painful. I think its because of the position/posture of my back when I am carrying luggage. What kind of structuring in a bike would address this problem ?
        Tie all luggage to the back seat using bungee cords. Keep everything off the back.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by MHG View Post
          I heard even some commuters have slightly rear set footpegs ? Like Suzuki GS150R and CBZ Xtreme and Hunk ??
          Really ? Isn't keeping back arched/crouched all the time considered bad for the spine ? Ideally you're supposed to keep back errect and straight right ?
          I maself own a honda unicorn. I found ma friend's fz's seating position comfier on a long ride than my upright uni. also good against highway windblast. and iam 6ft tall.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
            Tie all luggage to the back seat using bungee cords. Keep everything off the back.
            Any links ?

            Originally posted by mid View Post
            I maself own a honda unicorn. I found ma friend's fz's seating position comfier on a long ride than my upright uni. also good against highway windblast. and iam 6ft tall.
            Whats the difference ? Difference in the 2 bikes and the difference you felt ?
            Currently without a vehicle. Uber App and Bangalore Metro serving all my travel needs.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by MHG View Post
              Any links ?



              Whats the difference ? Difference in the 2 bikes and the difference you felt ?
              The bag on the rear seat is tied with a bungee cord. If tied properly, nothing moves regardless of how bad the conditions are. No need to carry anything on your back.











              Last edited by antz.bin; 06-21-2012, 07:20 PM.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by MHG View Post
                Whats the difference ? Difference in the 2 bikes and the difference you felt ?
                what i was tring to say-that the rear set footpegs aint that bad(comfier wise) as we usually think. And on the importance of a test ride to find the apt bike which suits one better. (same me who found fz comfortable found my right foot resting on brakes(applying some free play) on the 'stunner' and felt less comfier on a short run, might have adjusted to it on a longer run). So a longer/more than once test ride is recommended!
                Right now i feel unicorn riding position be too upright
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                • #38
                  @antz.bin: Aaah thanks. I went to JC Road and asked for Bungee Chord and guy was like then asked for "luggage ke liye rassi" and he gave me the stuff

                  Originally posted by mid View Post
                  what i was tring to say-that the rear set footpegs aint that bad(comfier wise) as we usually think. And on the importance of a test ride to find the apt bike which suits one better. (same me who found fz comfortable found my right foot resting on brakes(applying some free play) on the 'stunner' and felt less comfier on a short run, might have adjusted to it on a longer run). So a longer/more than once test ride is recommended!
                  Right now i feel unicorn riding position be too upright
                  Right. Got it.
                  Currently without a vehicle. Uber App and Bangalore Metro serving all my travel needs.

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                  • #39
                    Alright so here is update of my 1st experience at a Yamaha Showroom. Went to Orion Motors opposite The Forum Mall.

                    Prices I enquired:

                    Yamaha Crux - Rs. 45000
                    Yamaha SS-125 - Rs. 66000
                    Yamaha SZ-R - Rs. 71000

                    He said max Rs. 1000 discount if I opt out of insurance (prefer getting it done personally).

                    For some reason, I find these overpriced. HIGHLY overpriced. And they did not have a test bike for SS-125. Salesman never seemed even remotely interested in selling it and called it a "mileage bike" and "not a sports bike". SZ-R he quoted 50 mileage and SS-125 60, so I guess I should expect 45-50 for SZ-R and 55-60 for SS-125 which are again less than what I find acceptable.

                    Finally I asked for YBR110 and YBR125 to check them out atleast. They didn't even stock them.

                    Only thing I could see in the showroom were lots and lots of YZF-R15, FZ16, FZ-S, Fazer and SZ-Rs. These were the only bikes they were intent upon selling. I quitely left the place.

                    I had been to Kubera TVS before and they atleast were enthusiastic in selling every bike (and offering test rides) from XL-50 to Sport to Star City to the Apaches.

                    Next up, searching for a Suzuki Showroom to TD Slingshot Disc and Hayate.
                    Currently without a vehicle. Uber App and Bangalore Metro serving all my travel needs.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by MHG View Post
                      Next up, searching for a Suzuki Showroom to TD Slingshot Disc and Hayate.
                      Slingee is a mini GS-R no vibes even at a speedo indicated 100, rear suspension is stiffer than GS, report after TR please.

                      My friend bought SZ-R for 66000 a few months back(They offered him nice discount) and he is getting a steady 50kmpl
                      slingee gives me 64-72 on normal riding and 45-48 on 80+ speeds and 57 when ridden at 60kph
                      Is Crux still in production?
                      Last edited by Rashid; 07-10-2012, 11:40 PM.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by MHG View Post
                        Alright so here is update of my 1st experience at a Yamaha Showroom. Went to Orion Motors opposite The Forum Mall.

                        Prices I enquired:

                        Yamaha Crux - Rs. 45000
                        Yamaha SS-125 - Rs. 66000
                        Yamaha SZ-R - Rs. 71000

                        He said max Rs. 1000 discount if I opt out of insurance (prefer getting it done personally).

                        For some reason, I find these overpriced. HIGHLY overpriced. And they did not have a test bike for SS-125. Salesman never seemed even remotely interested in selling it and called it a "mileage bike" and "not a sports bike". SZ-R he quoted 50 mileage and SS-125 60, so I guess I should expect 45-50 for SZ-R and 55-60 for SS-125 which are again less than what I find acceptable.

                        Finally I asked for YBR110 and YBR125 to check them out atleast. They didn't even stock them.

                        Only thing I could see in the showroom were lots and lots of YZF-R15, FZ16, FZ-S, Fazer and SZ-Rs. These were the only bikes they were intent upon selling. I quitely left the place.

                        I had been to Kubera TVS before and they atleast were enthusiastic in selling every bike (and offering test rides) from XL-50 to Sport to Star City to the Apaches.

                        Next up, searching for a Suzuki Showroom to TD Slingshot Disc and Hayate.
                        71K for SZ-R in that case you are better off picking up a Discover 150! will save you lots of money or may be for the same money you will get a GS150R (hope so, not sure of it's price either).
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Rashid View Post
                          Slingee is a mini GS-R no vibes even at a speedo indicated 100, rear suspension is stiffer than GS, report after TR please.
                          Nice to hear that. I wanted a bike that is vibe-free at upto 80. I always liked the yellow Slingshot (non-plus version). Rear suspension is stiffer meaning does it feel slightly more uncomfortable or is it manageable ? And can you tell me your experience with long rides ?

                          BTW, the bike is slow on paper (low BHP). How does it get to higher speeds ? It has all torque at very low RPM and power comes at a much higher RPM right ? This weird character of the engine is what interests me most in the Slingshot.

                          My friend bought SZ-R for 66000 a few months back(They offered him nice discount) and he is getting a steady 50kmpl
                          Was your friend from Bangalore ? Here everything is expensive.

                          slingee gives me 64-72 on normal riding and 45-48 on 80+ speeds and 57 when ridden at 60kph
                          What do you define normal riding as ? And isn't 57 a bit low for 60kmph (which is cruising speed in city) ? Even the 80+ speeds mileage seems alarming, but normal mileage of 64-72 is very nice indeed

                          Is Crux still in production?
                          Apparently yes. Its Yamaha's bread and butter model that sells a lot in rural areas. One of the most beautiful looking bikes in the market today (yes I mean it) thanks to the chrome and the classic RX-lookalike styling. If Crux was fit with self start and (hopefully) a small disc brake at the front, and priced at around 50k-51k OTR, I'd buy it instantly
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by vrugonnab View Post
                            71K for SZ-R in that case you are better off picking up a Discover 150! will save you lots of money or may be for the same money you will get a GS150R (hope so, not sure of it's price either).
                            Yes, that was my reaction as well. Makes zero sense paying so much for a bike that has neither the power nor the mileage behind it.
                            Currently without a vehicle. Uber App and Bangalore Metro serving all my travel needs.

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                            • #44
                              And why no one is talking about the excellent bike Honda Shine with Disc brake?

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by amit_purohit20 View Post
                                And why no one is talking about the excellent bike Honda Shine with Disc brake?
                                I did give it plenty of thought.

                                It looks like a mini-unicorn - big and smart (I'm a sucker for physically large bikes). And is very quick and refined upto 60kmph.

                                But fares nowhere close to SS-125 that costs the same (66k Bangalore) and vibrates like crazy after 60kmph according to many ownership reviews. Vibes I cannot stand on a bike that is priced so high. Finally iffy Honda Service and horrible quality (and mileage in 50's) of some of the recent Shines put me off.
                                Currently without a vehicle. Uber App and Bangalore Metro serving all my travel needs.

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