saji_rossi

Current ride: P180 UG3, feb 2007 model, 26000 kms.
Requirement:
1. 50% commuting, 20% fun rides, 30% touring.
2. Top speed NOT that imp. but should be able to do 100kmph+ for long periods.
3. Will be touring, possibly on all types of roads.
(well just did a 2300 kms trip enjoying the western ghats for 6 days, alone) similar trips pending...

Options:
1. Pulsar 220....Looks perfect for me. bt i am cross with Bajaj service n quality.
2. ZMA....Too long in the tooth.
3. R15 !!!...wl, difficult to resist .

Budget:at the most R15.(Just got an appraisal at THE JOB)
plz dont suggest a RE.

Sunny

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Samarth 619

Strange as it may seem, I recommend a ZMA for the purpose, after thinking of course!

R15 is just great, if you can do with a bit Tiring Riding Position ... which is neither commuter nor Tourer favorite ...


AVOID P220, Lots of issues. Engine running Lean = Over-Heat, Vibration, Reliability issues, etc.

Conclude: In any case, it boils down to ZMA & maybe R15 ... If your budget allows, you may wait for Ninja 250 or updated Karizma ...

pranay

^^ He has said his budget at the most is till an R15. Ninja will be a lot lot more. And one question:- do you own a 220?

@Saji_rossi: If I were you, I would take a test ride of each first.

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santhoshub

I think 'Samarath' is having some personal prob. with R15 I hv not rode P220 so no comments on that byke but I hv rode Karizma enough...If a person who doesn't mind spending money for a right/good technology and ready to compromise on milage the right byke for him as of now is R15...

Xenologik

P220 is superb in terms of ..
Braking
Acceleration
Torquey at low and high rpm's
cheap spares

although there's this luck factor, john (xbhp johnblr)'s P220 had issues with the electrical system, some others had issues as well.

although its far better than ZMA in terms of performance but reliability is an issue.
but the spares of the ZMA are grossly expensive, P220 is much cheaper to run.

as for the R15, i dont think you'd like the initial pickup since the p180 is a very good signal to signal bike, with good initial acceleration, (refer torque at lower rpm's) R15 needs to be ridden hard to utilise the torque which is at higher RPM's

BEST BET :- TEST RIDE for a good distance, in the city as well as highways, 9ask your friends etc)

santoosh

Buddy , if i could put it this way , iv done all terrains on all the 3 bikes mentioned above.
All the bikes have the capability to do what u want.

Its about the rider and not the ride.

Each one has its good's and bad's.
U wont get the best of 3 bikes in any ..

Just add a 4th to ur list rtr fi is good.

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Xenologik

Oh btw

which is proven wrong by santoosh saar , he's doing tooo many tours (long ones) ever since he has the R15 in possession

FYI
the R15 is not tiring , im 5'10 and i didnt need ANY adjustment to the body when i rode the R15 for a short duration, it was perfect. i just need to have my R15 (which is coming in the first week next month) to do a long tour and tell the reports.

actually the above post has a very good point in it. you cant have everything at one go. something has to be compromised.

Happy hunting for your bike !

Ansh_a.k.a_Razor

I have ridden the 3 listed bike and own a P220.
P220 is a superb bike mate in terms of power as compared to Zma and R15.
But I think ZMA will suit you best as per your requirement. Don't go for R15, if you can wait then go for Ninja 250R.

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pk28.karthik

i would say ZMA will be a better option than p220. R15 is a class of its own, mainly for city riding, but yes can be taken for long rides too.
or else if you can wait for some time, wait for apache menace. it should be out soon before ninja for sure.