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Old 02-09-2009, 04:20 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Sorry guys, this foreigners point of view is that here in AMD HH just doesn't cut it, due to the language barrier displayed at all times I've taken the time to go talk to them.
We get the picture sir
All of us here : Hydro, Praful etc are just trying to put the various options into perspective for you sir. Praful for example is the owner of a P220 and one of the harshest critics BAL could've imagined

So..
Without fear of starting a 'brand war' or a 'flame-fest' you can share your comments with us and everyone will reciprocate

Cheers..!!
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Old 02-09-2009, 04:29 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Ok, I'm getting the drift of what you are looking for!

And sorry to burst ur bubble, but you really need a 200+ from stables of Honda.

Compared to the competition, with 220 what you get :-
-A very responsive bike through the gears
-Fantastic throttle response
-Large enough size to accommodate an alien
-large spread service backup
-tantrums that you need to take care of
-weird issues that might sneak up to you in the middle of no where
-a very fun to ride bike
-brilliant lights
-decent braking

what you don't get
-a completely reliable bike, agreed the newer lots are virtually problem free, but still its not a bike that you can 100% rely on
-a good corner carver
-nimble light footed bike to cut through traffic
-high levels of refinement
-the need to drop gears to blast past the smart alec's in traffic

and loads more.......

Since the R15 and RTR are not sized to your liking and the HH brand at large doesn not appeal to you, then the 220 is the only way to go. Unless Kawa-BAL decide to magically sell the Ninja at lower than 1.5L
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@praful - chill... wrong choice of words to express what I felt! my apologies

@andante - welcome to our world ... we've been waiting for such a bike for too long now...!
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Old 02-09-2009, 04:38 PM   #24 (permalink)
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@andante - welcome to our world ... we've been waiting for such a bike for too long now...!
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This andante is the story for quite a few people around here (me included!). The need is to actually make compromises that hurt you the least and learn to live with that!
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Old 02-09-2009, 04:42 PM   #25 (permalink)
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And sorry to burst ur bubble, but you really need a 200+ from stables of Honda.
You are so right! However that won't happen any time soon, I dare bet.

As for the "tantrums that you need to take care of" and "weird issues that might sneak up to you in the middle of no where", I'm not planning to go out of the city too much. And since I'm technically inclined myself, I'm sure I would be able to sort out minor issues long enough to get to a service station.

I'll bear with the issues should any arrive, every thing is a trade off at the end of the day.

And all of you thanks for the info, this is a great community even for a stubborn mule like me!

Oh, and for those that call me "sir" and all that, please don't. Unless you were being sarcastic.
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I would say look no further than the 220. Its been around 2 years since the 220 was launched and not many problems are cropping up in the newer models. BAJAJ have really done a good job in that aspect. Look at the ownership thread if u want some proof. Yes, the ZMA may be a bullet - proof engine, but its remained the same since its launch. No upgrades nothing.

I agree,

During the intial months there were some niggling issues.. but after 2 years of launch, the current batches seem to be virtually glitch free.. Squealing rear discs which needs to be kept clean and not so effective Rear View Mirrors do remain an irritant. But apart from that I haven't come across any major issue of late.

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Ok, I'm getting the drift of what you are looking for!

And sorry to burst ur bubble, but you really need a 200+ from stables of Honda.

Compared to the competition, with 220 what you get :-
-A very responsive bike through the gears
-Fantastic throttle response
-Large enough size to accommodate an alien
-large spread service backup
-tantrums that you need to take care of
-weird issues that might sneak up to you in the middle of no where
-a very fun to ride bike
-brilliant lights
-decent braking

what you don't get
-a completely reliable bike, agreed the newer lots are virtually problem free, but still its not a bike that you can 100% rely on
-a good corner carver
-nimble light footed bike to cut through traffic
-high levels of refinement
-the need to drop gears to blast past the smart alec's in traffic

and loads more.......

Since the R15 and RTR are not sized to your liking and the HH brand at large doesn not appeal to you, then the 220 is the only way to go. Unless Kawa-BAL decide to magically sell the Ninja at lower than 1.5L

I agree here too..




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As for the "tantrums that you need to take care of" and "weird issues that might sneak up to you in the middle of no where", I'm not planning to go out of the city too much. And since I'm technically inclined myself, I'm sure I would be able to sort out minor issues long enough to get to a service station.

I'll bear with the issues should any arrive, every thing is a trade off at the end of the day.
Since you're forewarned and prepared to face minor niggles, the P200 will do nicely then
The 220 will surely be a hoot to ride around town..

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Oh, and for those that call me "sir" and all that, please don't. Unless you were being sarcastic.
I wasn't being sarcastic in the least. Its just that im 21 and it'd do me well to call most people sir
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All said and done, I think I'll go with my own feeling that is to get a P220 when I do get around to it (unless some thing spectacular happens with one of the other brands).

There, a decision finally! Well, all the best buddy. The P220 ain't bad then.
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