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    Let me tell you what I feel about this Honda CBR650F. It is a sporty 650 no doubt. But neither does it demand my pound of flesh in ergonomic comfort to make me a sport-rider nor does it expect me to have feline reflexes to handle its power. The foot pegs are low enough for my knees not to get tucked up like a trussed up chicken’s on the roast. And yes even the heat is not there to roast them anyways. The bars are not that far that I have to grovel and beg space from my ample midriff to reach them or hold my breath in and die blue-faced of asphyxia before I can shift to third. On this one I could take my 7 and something son for a ride and not feel compelled to keep feeling his legs with my hand just to make sure he’s still there behind me. And above all it doesn’t vibrate either me or itself into a frenzy, in the name of character, each time I wind up the right wrist. Short and sweet – I like the Honda CBR650F.

    These kind of 650’s are considered ‘entry level’ sports bikes in the mature markets of the West. The Indian market however is not that mature yet, neither financially nor in riding skills. But Honda have made this 650 as user friendly a 600+ cc in-line four with 85 strong horses on the leash as can be possible while keeping it eminently controllable even at 200+ kph. Of course this ‘user friendliness’ is seen as ‘boring’ by the more excitable of the species amongst us two-wheel aficionados. But nevertheless it is a trait that will go a long way in ensuring sales for Honda. Globally Honda apparently wants to plug all holes in its motorcycle line-up and the 650F is probably the last such plug in a lineup that starts with the CBR150R, rides the CBR250R, the 300, the 500 and through to the VFR800 Interceptor. The 650F betrays its strategic placement also as a bridge between the more performance oriented and expensive super-sports 600RR and the Fireblade further up by the visible choice of a sport-bike fairing, the sporty ergonomics and finally the in-line 4 engine choice that wraps it up. India however will consider it a ‘big’ bike in any case and by far going by the ride experience, it is not at all a misfit when being viewed as one.

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    Re: Honda CBR650F First Impressions

    Nicely penned down, old fox sir!!!

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    Sanjay
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      Re: Honda CBR650F First Impressions

      Dear OF sir, your Choice of Words and observations of actual facts , are always a Treat for me to read and comprehend . I guess the reason Honda increased the stroke length is to get Good Torque right from lower RPM ...Like you said Most of the time Honda makes "Boring" vehicles....anyone who moves away from a Honda vehicle will understand this .
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        Re: Honda CBR650F First Impressions

        Still waiting for single tone colors preferably in the all white/ all red/ matte black/ glossy black/ yamaha blue/ metallic silver in that order.
        Was this a demo bike? Looks a bit too poorly maintained in the photos.
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          Re: Honda CBR650F First Impressions

          Originally posted by sanjaysangar1990 View Post
          Nicely penned down, old fox sir!!!
          Thanks Sanjay.

          Originally posted by psr View Post
          Dear OF sir, your Choice of Words and observations of actual facts , are always a Treat for me to read and comprehend . I guess the reason Honda increased the stroke length is to get Good Torque right from lower RPM ...Like you said Most of the time Honda makes "Boring" vehicles....anyone who moves away from a Honda vehicle will understand this .
          PSR sir! Yes - the longer stroke definitely would be for torque lower down as you say. This route is also easier for the design department. The 'boring' though is a lot better than 'character' in my opinion which usually means vibrations, engine noise and loads of other factors that make the machine unreliable.

          Originally posted by Nithesh View Post
          Was this a demo bike? Looks a bit too poorly maintained in the photos.
          This was a much (ab)used PR bike .
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            Re: Honda CBR650F First Impressions

            My first two 'big bikes' were from Honda. There is nothing wrong with the 650F. And thats the problem. Its too clinical for me. However, an aftermarket should do the trick in spicing up the aural aspect of this fine machine.

            But Honda, why arent you getting the CBR600RR yet?
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              Re: Honda CBR650F First Impressions

              Originally posted by Old Fox View Post
              I like the Honda CBR650F.
              Good read, just went through the 4 pages. I have seen one in person but didn't pay attention to its tacho markings (seen on page 4).
              As per the article, both redline and max power are marked at 11k RPM. So that means, one can practically never derive all 86 horses?
              Last edited by Divya Sharan; 11-11-2015, 05:38 PM.
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                Re: Honda CBR650F First Impressions

                Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                Good read, just went through the 4 pages. I have seen one in person but didn't pay attention to its tacho markings (seen on page 4).
                As per the article, both redline and max power are marked at 11k RPM. So that means, one can practically never derive all 86 horses?
                It would be really fun to see the Dyno Chart of this bike as to how it produces torque and power at each RPM.

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                  Re: Honda CBR650F First Impressions

                  Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                  Good read, just went through the 4 pages. I have seen one in person but didn't pay attention to its tacho markings (seen on page 4).
                  As per the article, both redline and max power are marked at 11k RPM. So that means, one can practically never derive all 86 horses?
                  An error on my part there Divya. THanks for pointing it out.

                  The engine is red-lined at 11,400 rpm and not 11k as I have written in the article while the peak power is produced at 11,000 rpm as stated. A 400 rpm overrun does answer your question but of course such engine specs are pretty unusual from the likes of Honda and that too for an in-line 4. But this does go to show the strong bias towards mid-range ability than a strong top end that was on the minds of the designers. In practice, nothing much happens after 10,500 rpm or so.

                  Will get the figures corrected.
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                    Re: Honda CBR650F First Impressions

                    Well said, people call this bike boring, but I'd say it's a very reliable n usable 650inline 4, a bit thumpier exhaust note a wee bit of more torque would have sorted this bike like for sure, but it has a superb top end, excellent fuel economy for mid level bike.

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