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  • #16
    Originally posted by Binoy View Post
    Guys a problem while changing the engine oil bolt... today i tried to change the engine oil and used the 17" spanner in the tool kit for opening the bolt/nut under the engine... the bolt was really tight so that i could not open it and by fiddling with it caused the thread of the engine went kaput... took the bike SVC and they told to repair the thread which will cost ~200RS/-
    My question is that for opening the bolt does we need any other tool? or is it possible with the 17" spanner in the tool kit?
    if it need another tool which one is suitable and how much it will cost?

    Thanks...
    I hope they didnt put M-Seal on it? Because that's what I heard from a mechanic when I told him that I nearly messed the threads on the engine.
    What we need is a 'Torque Wrench' for easy removal of the bolt. I havent seen it on sale anywhere though.
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    • #17
      you have to use a 17 ring spanner and 8 ring spanner for engine bolts,
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      • #18
        Originally posted by nightwing View Post
        I hope they didnt put M-Seal on it? Because that's what I heard from a mechanic when I told him that I nearly messed the threads on the engine.
        What we need is a 'Torque Wrench' for easy removal of the bolt. I havent seen it on sale anywhere though.

        If you need a torque wrench I can help you in finding Torque wrench supplier
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        • #19
          Wouldn't we really need to use the torque wrench? What happens if the drain bolt is torqued too tight?
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          • #20
            adjusting the headlights

            hi there.. nice job on how to change the engine oil . can someone please put up similar pictorial instructions on how to adjust the headlights..and set the low and high appropriately...would be helpful

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            • #21
              always use a ring spanner/plug spanner/twrench to remove the bolts on the engine. some bolts are made of soft metal which will get damaged if you use an open mouth/monkey wrench. i learned it the hard way.

              i broke an edge of the engine oil drain bolt of my r15 during first service. problem was that i used an open mouth spanner. the r15 engine oil drain bolt is aluminum and is super soft. however fz uses iron. tightening torque is also important. if you are not familiar with tightening torques, finger tighten the bolt and then tighten the bolt lightly(around 1/4 - 1/2 turns) using the spanner, ride around sometime and see if there is any oil leakage. tighten it until the oil stops leaking. and also try to use short spanners.

              usually 1/2 - 3/4 turns after finger tightening will do to get it properly tightend when using a new drain bolt gasket.

              torque wrench is only required if you are into doing serious engine works. a good torque wrench costs more than 4000rs. buying a torque wrench just for doing an oil change seems ridiculous.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by RanjithMN View Post
                What abt the bolts tightness?how tight should it be when not using a torque wrench?
                A slightly loose drain bolt will leak a little oil, but an over-tightened drain bolt will need an engine strip down.
                Its best to go easy on the tightening. drain bolts, though bigger don't require too much of torque (coz the engine casing is aluminum). simply put, if you find oil dripping after tightening, tighten a lil bit more then check again. this is a foolproof method.
                I have often seen first timers wreck the treading by turning the drain plug in the wrong direction while loosening. Its very easy for someone not used to drain bolts to lose his sense of direction so its best left to your mechanic who usually won't charge to change the oil.
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                • #23
                  Missed an important part in filter change. He forgot to soak the filter before install. It's highly recommended (even in manual).
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by deville_56 View Post
                    Missed an important part in filter change. He forgot to soak the filter before install. It's highly recommended (even in manual).

                    Soak the filter in what? And also explain after riding the bike for 10-15 minutes to get the engine warmed up. Should I drain immediately or should I wait. If it's hot will the threads won't mess up? Just guessing

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by jonahmano View Post
                      Soak the filter in what? And also explain after riding the bike for 10-15 minutes to get the engine warmed up. Should I drain immediately or should I wait. If it's hot will the threads won't mess up? Just guessing
                      soaking the filter in oil.
                      i did it by adding 10ml of oil in a small flat container and just rolled the filter in oil till the colour changed from yellow to yellow ochre.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by jonahmano View Post
                        Soak the filter in what? And also explain after riding the bike for 10-15 minutes to get the engine warmed up. Should I drain immediately or should I wait. If it's hot will the threads won't mess up? Just guessing
                        Soak in oil, what else
                        Till date nothing happened to my bolts.

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                        • #27
                          Loosen the bolt and then ride for a few kms. Then unscrew it and drain.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by HydBiker View Post
                            Go with the manufacturer recommendation. Mostly the oil filter is suggested to be changed at every oil change.

                            An exclusion I have seen so far is the R15 - recommended oil filter replacement interval is 10K KMs.
                            even yamaha fz16 oil filter replacement interval is 10kms but i am little confused because i got my bike serviced at 22000 km and they change my oil filter which is just Rs 40. how just Rs 40 oil filter works fine till 10000kms. p

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by vicracingmonster View Post
                              even yamaha fz16 oil filter replacement interval is 10kms but i am little confused because i got my bike serviced at 22000 km and they change my oil filter which is just Rs 40. how just Rs 40 oil filter works fine till 10000kms. p
                              Don't assess life by price. Then how is a 2-rupee bolt gonna hold the bike for a life time?
                              It's made by reputed OEM manufacturer (Purolator) and approved by Yamaha as original spare. Yamaha only said to change it at 10k km (safer range, remeber people tend to use it longer). Most of us change them with every or every 2 oil change.
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                              • #30
                                Re: Yamaha fz16/fazer engine oil &amp; oil filter change

                                !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

                                Regarding the oil filter change: Once replacing the oil filter , the engine oil to be added is 1.2L(1L and 200ml)and not 1L from the service manual,And some might wonder why,for those who have Fazer or FZ when the drain the oil through the drain bolt and even after the oil dripping is stopped you can notice the oil will be pouring once you open the oil filter cap(sorry of long typing).

                                since some of the oil gets stored in the oil filter chamber,but in case of periodic maintenance (changing oil without changing oil filter) you need to add 1L and not 1.2L(1Land 200ml).


                                And regarding the recommended oil for FZ and Fazer is 20W50 OR going for xxW50 (where xx is < 20 ie: 15W50,10W50 etc)


                                service manual :http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/help-me/...maha-fz16.html ( manual in spanish need to be translated)

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