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Hi Im New One To This Forum...I Owned A New Pulsar 180 DTS i UG4 3 Weeks Ago...What Are The Changes Should Be Done To Get A More Powerful Light???Could U Plz Explain...???
I Have Some Doubts:
1.Modification In Neutral Light Connection...What U mean By That???
2.What Is RR Unit???What Is The Use Of It???
Plz Explain Step by Step...Urgent...Help Plz...
Originally posted by Chetan_KS View PostDon't buy the full stator assembly kit (magneto assebly as well as coil) buy only the coil (part no. DV111005).
The only modification required on my bike was the neutral light connection had to be modified.
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Hi I would also like to know abt the modification u had done for the neutral light. i have a pulsar DTSi non self start version. In the stock stator plate I can see that the green neutral wire is inside the wiring harness, but in avengers it is separate.Originally posted by Chetan_KS View PostDon't buy the full stator assembly kit (magneto assebly as well as coil) buy only the coil (part no. DV111005).
The only modification required on my bike was the neutral light connection had to be modified.
Is there way to install the stator plate into my bike???
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H7?? the one which is used for p220??Originally posted by shadez View Postbut falcon, why not HID? takes less power while running, white bright light. i got one and it didnt give me any problems till now. and btw, i got a H7 with a heat sink.
but yeah, what Chetan mentions is the cheap and best fit...
how much does it cost??
is it avail in hyderabad??http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#Community.aspx?cmm=91524710
join P220 community and make it happening!!
Missin you Kriss!! :(
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1. The modification in the Neutral Light connection is for older models and non self-start ones, I think. For you, it's a direct fit. Read through the whole thread for more info.Originally posted by harish_hpd View PostHi Im New One To This Forum...I Owned A New Pulsar 180 DTS i UG4 3 Weeks Ago...What Are The Changes Should Be Done To Get A More Powerful Light???Could U Plz Explain...???
I Have Some Doubts:
1.Modification In Neutral Light Connection...What U mean By That???
2.What Is RR Unit???What Is The Use Of It???
Plz Explain Step by Step...Urgent...Help Plz...
2. RR unit - Regulator-Rectifier unit - This unit ensures that the headlamp and other electricals don't get more than 12V at any time. Inorder to provide full 12V even at low rpm, the coils is set for a higher max voltage (13-14V) at high rpm. It also filters out any spikes in the supply and gives pure DC output.This sig made the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs. And if you don't know what that means, you're not old enough to. :D
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Is your original bulb halogen? If not, change to one. Bosch bulb costs 60 bucks + fitment.Originally posted by mashmash View PostHi, I have a suzuki Fiero and my head light is candle. What all do i need to do, to brighten things up? I have not changed my bulb past 8 years
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If you have no idea whether it's halogen or not, see the following pics for reference.

This is an ordinary bulb

This is a halogen
Also what is the condition of the headlight glass and reflector? The glass/acrylic might have yellowed with age, and the reflector too, might be rusted/flaky. Check condition of both and replace if needed.This sig made the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs. And if you don't know what that means, you're not old enough to. :D
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Regarding powerful headlight
I fitted a powerful headlight 60/55 watts Mico bulb for my bike Victor GLX 125.
Awesome focus now.Already GLX has best focus in all Indian bikes having 35 watts bulb and now I have put a high power bulb.
I approached a mechanic in Pune and he did following thing
He took the regulator of Old Bajaj Chetak scooter,manipulated it for 60/55 watts and fitted in to the headlight circuit.
According to that mechanic,My bike's magneto coil produces 90 watts power out of which 50 watts are allocated to lighting.
The headlight is cut off and regulated at 35 watts.
He fitted this regulator to headlight circuit in such a way that it bypasses the standard regulator for headlight only.
Thus no effect on wiring.
The only problem I face now is ,black spots arising on headlight reflectors after 6 months.I am thinking to go for round headlights of ambassador/Mahindra jeeps later on.
You can just try this.
It costed me 1000 rupees and 75 rupees for Mico bulb.
If you are in Pune,his number is 020-24364929 Shriyash Motors
I think that it is better than HID because it costs 4000 and light about 2200 lumens whereas in 1000+ rupees you can have double light intensity than your current bulb.
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White lights in 35 watts
There are halogen bulbs available from Design Auto Systems.It gives 40% more light than 35 watt bulb and white light.Originally posted by CJ View PostNo P200 gives normal Yellow kinda lights....do u know any 35/35 lamp which will give white lights ?
In Pune I tried it for my CD Dawn but no use.I cant see road properly.For my Victor GLX it was very good but I upgraded to 60/55 Mico H4 bulb and did some change in regulator circuit.I get best Yellow-White light with focus of 50 meters in lower beam and around 125 meters in higher beam.I tested the quality of light on my GLX by driving 150 kms during night time from Mahad to Pune in dangerous Varandha Ghat which has thick and dense forests,Mountains and no human settlements and village nearby 40 kms.The light quality was very very superb.I was able to notice black snake crossing road from 50 meters distance in upper beam.So you can imagine what quality of focus I get.
Now almost all truck drivers and those people who drive cars,jeeps in upper beam, without any hesitation lowers down their headlight when my bike approaches in front of them.
Till 55/60 watts,yellow light is good.White light is of good quality only for 100/90 and above bulbs.
White light has only one problem.In lower beam and in heavy rains,the road visiblity is lowered.I dont know about HID
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Guys can we replace ONLY the glass in the dome assembly of pulsars? As in, do we get that as a spare? Some chap in Khivraj was saying I would have to buy the complete dome assembly for 5K for this.
Reason is my glass is scratched and I want to replace it.
Also, has anyone studied the new 180's all-DC electricals? The 180 is quite similar to the 200 in terms of electricals (I think), so we can identify the proper components to convert our 200's electricals to all - DC.
And, the main question is, IF indeed one replaces the stator in the 200 with the Avenger's stator, then what are the long term effects on the rectifier or the battery? Because the output from the stator is of a higher wattage.
Anyone who has already put in the Avy stator and can share his experience on this?Last edited by tanay; 08-19-2009, 10:52 PM.200 | 300 | 1200 BOXER
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Not to be nitpicking, but the coils give out 15-20V at idle and upto 80-90V at high rpms. The RR unit limits this to 12-14V.Originally posted by VivekGK View PostRR unit - Regulator-Rectifier unit - This unit ensures that the headlamp and other electricals don't get more than 12V at any time. Inorder to provide full 12V even at low rpm, the coils is set for a higher max voltage (13-14V) at high rpm. It also filters out any spikes in the supply and gives pure DC output.
And no, the RR unit does no filtering as such. In fact, it is the RR unit which introduces spike into the circuit while regulating the coil output. A poor quality regulator is more prone to these spikes. It is the battery that acts as a filter. That is why it is not recommended to run a vehicle without the battery. These spikes can damage other electricals.Your biking tells a lot about the person you are!
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Yeah, I've been dying to convert the 200 to DC electricals. I am not very comfortable with the home made conversions and I'm not sure how reliable they are. Figuring out the 180's components would be such a brilliant idea.Originally posted by tanay View PostGuys can we replace ONLY the glass in the dome assembly of pulsars? As in, do we get that as a spare? Some chap in Khivraj was saying I would have to buy the complete dome assembly for 5K for this.
Reason is my glass is scratched and I want to replace it.
Also, has anyone studied the new 180's all-DC electricals? The 180 is quite similar to the 200 in terms of electricals (I think), so we can identify the proper components to convert our 200's electricals to all - DC.
And, the main question is, IF indeed one replaces the stator in the 200 with the Avenger's stator, then what are the long term effects on the rectifier or the battery? Because the output from the stator is of a higher wattage.
Anyone who has already put in the Avy stator and can share his experience on this?
Been using the 55/60 coil with NightBreaker for a very long time. No issues.
Thanks for the information. So there is no difference between the RR unit on the P150 and the RR unit on the Avenger ? Both are running different coils though. Any ideas on a DC conversion with company components?Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View PostNot to be nitpicking, but the coils give out 15-20V at idle and upto 80-90V at high rpms. The RR unit limits this to 12-14V.
And no, the RR unit does no filtering as such. In fact, it is the RR unit which introduces spike into the circuit while regulating the coil output. A poor quality regulator is more prone to these spikes. It is the battery that acts as a filter. That is why it is not recommended to run a vehicle without the battery. These spikes can damage other electricals.sigpic
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The Avenger RR unit can carry the higher 60W load, while the Pulsar RR unit is designed for only 35W load and may be overloaded when used with a Avy stator coil.Originally posted by silver_falcon_46 View PostThanks for the information. So there is no difference between the RR unit on the P150 and the RR unit on the Avenger ? Both are running different coils though. Any ideas on a DC conversion with company components?
For DC conversion, the P180 UGIV Stator coil + RR unit will be needed. If the rest of the wiring is same, it would work, else, maybe you would have to do some wire cutting. A P180 UGIV wiring diagram would help!Your biking tells a lot about the person you are!
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So far so good with the RR unitOriginally posted by abhijeet080808 View PostThe Avenger RR unit can carry the higher 60W load, while the Pulsar RR unit is designed for only 35W load and may be overloaded when used with a Avy stator coil.
For DC conversion, the P180 UGIV Stator coil + RR unit will be needed. If the rest of the wiring is same, it would work, else, maybe you would have to do some wire cutting. A P180 UGIV wiring diagram would help!
There are a few in xbhp who have used the avenger stator coil without changing the RR unit and not had any issues for a while.
Does the 180 come with a 60W stator coil? if it doesn't, there is no point switching back to a 35/35 just because it has a DC unit. Any other reliable way that you can suggest to convert to DC?sigpic
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but its been more than a year of running without problems..

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