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  • Loud Pipes Save Lives

    I had an old thread on how loud pipes can save motorcyclists.

    Anyways that debate can be revived again and is worth reviving.

    With the tall SUVs and monster vehicles such as trailers and reckless ST buses on the Highway - a puny motorcycle is never noticed until it is too late.

    Plus cage drivers enjoy the loud music on their stereo player and talk on the phone and continue driving irresponsibly on the road.

    For a motorcycle rider - all this can mean death - WHY ? - because he is unnoticed and gets bumped or run over since cage drivers are not aware of the motorcycle in the vicinity.

    I had earlier posted a Bikernet Independent study on how loud pipes save lives. Then Oakland Police started using loud pipes after the death of their fellow patrolling rider on duty.

    THE NEW DATA from Oakland Police legal fight to save lives is here:
    Oakland Police Choose Loud Pipes

    This is true for 2 wheelers as we are at risk from careless - BLIND - cage drivers who won't see your bike until it goes under their wheels.


    Other reports:
    Motorcycles are good:
    What Is Good for Motorcyclists Is Good for You Too

    See Past News at bottom half of this page:
    Bikernet News

    Regards,
    UD
    "Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge." - Paul Gauguin
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    Topic Approved.
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    • #3
      I stay pretty close to Oakland. Well...here most of the bikes have aftermarket pipes.

      But, Riding in California and in , say, Maharastra is pretty different. Guys riding SUVs in CA are not used to see much bikes on the road. Very very few ppl ride here...and most of guys don't know anything about motorcycles. When dirving their car on the streets they are looking out for cars not for the bikes.

      Most of the ppl in india are used to drive their car with bikes on the road. They do notice bikes on the road.
      My SBK video

      http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=OuajDeD2RC0

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      • #4
        hey i can vouch for loud-pipes, my RD somehow seems to part traffic wit a certain ease, maybe i should start callin it Moses

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        • #5
          Loud pipes might get you noticed, but in a lot of instances it might scare the shit out of alot of people as well. I once almost shat my pants when I hear this late 90s SBK coming out of KRP on the ring road suddenly accelerated behind me while I was in an auto - full squid - but definitely startled me!!!

          It's a very fine edge to walk, loud pipes - sometimes it works, othertimes it might actually result in a scared driver doing something stupid once scared!

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          • #6
            With all due respect, its fundamentally flawed. Cliched and maybe works in the west but is a ghastly source of irritation to other bikers in stuck traffic, and with even bikers listening to FM, I don't see the point really.

            Take a ride in a volvo/car/whatever.

            Yes, its great for attention whoring, but that's about it.
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            • #7
              Louder pipes for getting noticed are definitely not the way to go, in India at least.
              Already so much honking and "shor sharaba", louder bikes will lead to noise pollution only, nothing else.
              As far as the "getting noticed" point is concerned, I feel if a person is driving irresponsibly, he can even leave a louder bike unnoticed.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by rickyshh View Post
                Louder pipes for getting noticed are definitely not the way to go, in India at least.
                Already so much honking and "shor sharaba", louder bikes will lead to noise pollution only, nothing else.
                As far as the "getting noticed" point is concerned, I feel if a person is driving irresponsibly, he can even leave a louder bike unnoticed.
                I agree with this.
                My SBK video

                http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=OuajDeD2RC0

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Samy View Post
                  Originally posted by rickyshh View Post
                  As far as the "getting noticed" point is concerned, I feel if a person is driving irresponsibly, he can even leave a louder bike unnoticed.
                  I agree with this.
                  So you two are saying that all of us should drive IRRESPONSIBLY in order to get noticed and thus save our lives by driving irresponsibly ?

                  Think again !!!
                  "Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge." - Paul Gauguin
                  www.iqmind.org
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by 2write View Post
                    So you two are saying that all of us should drive IRRESPONSIBLY in order to get noticed and thus save our lives by driving irresponsibly ?

                    Think again !!!
                    You didn't get his point .. please read again ..

                    He meant drivers 'driving' cars irresponsibly might ignore even the loudest thing on the road.

                    Any normal person would know that US and India (or SE-Asian countries) are at opposite ends of the spectrum with respect to motorcycling. Most of their studies and surveys on the US road and riding conditions just don't apply here.
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                    • #11
                      UD bhai,

                      Our man is giving a hyperbole to illustrate the futility of the argument. All he's said is that brash/sore thumb/standout behavior gets noticed - whether it be a loud pipe that's downright insensitive to others' ear drums whether it be a lunatic burning public retinae with his safari with 4 white HIDs in stock reflectors, whether it be a lunatic zig zagging and cutting traffic irresponsibly.

                      Or one could just be nice to everyone and get bike decals like the Castrol ZMA, wear good gear, look cool and be hip.

                      Or buy the R15
                      Rather, the Enfield Classic. Mama mia.

                      PS: The day Oakland gets indisciplined killer call center indicabs, we'll see their stand on the issue!
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                      • #12
                        Loud Pipes on indian roads..ahaa!!...i would prefer staying home..on a serious note..in the West Bikes with Loud pipes do get noticed..for a fact any bike gets noticed cos the bikes are far and few!!..however..back in our motherland..so much traffic..so much honking..why the hell would we need loud pipes..!!
                        You riding a big bang!! bike might make you feel like you are gettin noticed..but whats the use of getting noticed with all the curses and abuses from fellow road users?
                        "Bikes + Music = Nirvana"

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by vinfreak View Post
                          ..however..back in our motherland..so much traffic..so much honking..why the hell would we need loud pipes..!!

                          I don't know why you guys are stuck in Mumbai traffic instead of thinking of Highway conditions
                          "Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge." - Paul Gauguin
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                          • #14
                            Come on. Now this is downright ridiculous. As if 99% here have separate bikes for mumbai traffic and separate for touring.

                            I know enough bulleteers personally who have loud pipes and who do 50% of their riding (min) in city - even you'd do some 700-1000km a month in Mumbai city na?

                            Loud pipes are downright irritating for others and are essentially an irritant - I can't focus on traffic, nor hear my own phone/mp3 - its a bloody intrusion of privacy. How'd you like if someone kept playing himezzzzzzz at full volume with windows down, next to you? I wouldn't.

                            Even on highways, I prefer to spare my eardrums, and if at all, listen to my mp3 music than someone else's pipes - I keep loud pipe guys as far away as I can.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by hitanshu View Post
                              Even on highways, I prefer to spare my eardrums, and if at all, listen to my mp3 music than someone else's pipes - I keep loud pipe guys as far away as I can.
                              Are we still talking about bikes?
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