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  • #16
    Originally posted by aargee View Post
    ^^^ Hmm...I guess I'm doing my 2 cents. I've taught my Son on the traffic lights & he complaints to me when ppl jump signals.

    In a way, I believe this is little dangerous because, in a country when 99% of them jump the law & 1% of them follow it are bound to get all sorts of threats (including life) due to the majority of them who're doing incorrect things.

    Imagine when a person looks up the signal that says walk & when he crosses the road only to find a vehicle jumping signal...very dangerous.

    Its most important to stay triple cautious these days & I'm sure in the forth coming years its going to be quad cautious & even more!!!

    Typical example - A decade ago, to cross the road, we only needed to look first right side, come to middle & then look left. But these days, I've to keep looking left & right until I cross the road (hopefully I do) 'cause there're number of people who think there's nothing wrong in riding/driving in wrong direction. It all started with cyclists who found difficult to pedal to take a U-turn, followed by bikers & now even the buses & truck are doing it with headlights turned ON. What's worse is that, these guys justify that they've turned ON the lights & its our mistake for not yielding to them

    PS - Anyway, sorry about my rantings as I'm beginning to loose my confidence on road rules in this country.
    I know exactly what you mean.

    Ther's no hope for this country.

    A simple example . ABS (Antilock braking system) WILL INCREASE BRAKING DISTANCE. Incorrectly marketed as a mean to reduce braking distance. The whole point of ABS is to avoid wheel slip, thus to gain traction and steering control. No body knows how to use ABS, ESP, TC, etc. I am writing a big article on it. To be posted up soon.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by hemank View Post
      I know exactly what you mean.

      Ther's no hope for this country.

      A simple example . ABS (Antilock braking system) WILL INCREASE BRAKING DISTANCE. Incorrectly marketed as a mean to reduce braking distance. The whole point of ABS is to avoid wheel slip, thus to gain traction and steering control. No body knows how to use ABS, ESP, TC, etc. I am writing a big article on it. To be posted up soon.
      ABS is a life saver under wet condition...but under normal dry condition no...I happened to have driven a friend's Corolla AT fully loaded with ABS and almost creamed the back of a Maruthi Esteem on the highway,when he braked suddenly to save a Biker cutting in to highway from opposite side.It took full 5 minutes for me to become normal....but let my friend drive thereon....You have to maintain greater distance from Vehicle in front of you if you have ABS....But tests have proven it to be superior in stopping distance,compared to conventional non ABS system...wonder how ?
      When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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      • #18
        I tend to agree with PSR ji here that, ABS actually increases your braking distance than regular ones ON THE NORMAL DRY TARMAC.

        I'd put this way, airbags are for protecting us in the event of misfortunes, while ABS is to prevent from misfortunes. Anyway, too much OT I guess
        Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
        Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
        ATGATT + Awareness + Skill means you might Live To Ride another day

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        • #19
          Originally posted by psr View Post
          ABS is a life saver under wet condition...but under normal dry condition no...I happened to have driven a friend's Corolla AT fully loaded with ABS and almost creamed the back of a Maruthi Esteem on the highway,when he braked suddenly to save a Biker cutting in to highway from opposite side.It took full 5 minutes for me to become normal....but let my friend drive thereon....You have to maintain greater distance from Vehicle in front of you if you have ABS....But tests have proven it to be superior in stopping distance,compared to conventional non ABS system...wonder how ?
          I will write in detail on this topin in a day or two. HOW TO USE ABS

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          • #20
            Originally posted by aargee View Post
            I tend to agree with PSR ji here that, ABS actually increases your braking distance than regular ones ON THE NORMAL DRY TARMAC.

            I'd put this way, airbags are for protecting us in the event of misfortunes, while ABS is to prevent from misfortunes. Anyway, too much OT I guess
            I will write in DETAIL ON HOW TO USE ABS and other Active safety systems in a day or two. THIS IS WHAT I MEANT IN SAFETY DRIVING S
            CHOOL. This is RTO's responsibility for God's sake. Ne ways, I'll write a detailed description in a day or two n post it up. I ws trained in Bosch Testing center, Stuttgart, Germany

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            • #21
              @Hemank - C'mon, not that we doubt your ability or anything. We do respect & we were only penning down our point of views. We're like any typical not so literate on road sense (read morons lol) in this country, just that we don't ride/drive on wrong way, are cautious & wear gears in addition to helmets

              Our minds are open to learn; no offense pls
              Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
              Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
              ATGATT + Awareness + Skill means you might Live To Ride another day

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              • #22
                Originally posted by psr View Post
                ABS is a life saver under wet condition...but under normal dry condition no...I happened to have driven a friend's Corolla AT fully loaded with ABS and almost creamed the back of a Maruthi Esteem on the highway,when he braked suddenly to save a Biker cutting in to highway from opposite side.It took full 5 minutes for me to become normal....but let my friend drive thereon....You have to maintain greater distance from Vehicle in front of you if you have ABS....But tests have proven it to be superior in stopping distance,compared to conventional non ABS system...wonder how ?
                Umm, ABS saved you from creaming the Esteem actually.

                If the car dint have ABS, the wheels would have locked and you would have gone skidding into the Esteem.

                ABS helps you in maintain control of the vehicle, i.e. steer it. If the wheels would have locked up you have no steering control of the vehicle.

                Wheels do lockup even in dry conditions if you stand on the brakes.

                Bottomline: ABS saves!
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                • #23
                  I guess we are killing the thread with OTs here. we have loads of other thread for ABS talks.

                  Hemank - have you got a business plan ready with you? whom you gonna target and how? how you intent to study the market viability for such project and what are the estimated cost and returns?
                  You said that you gonna do it on non-profit basis which makes it even more complicated than a normal service, coz even if you dont want a salary out it, your employees would want their pay checks. a non-profit organization never literally runs as a non-profit.

                  Talking about getting people to come to the center and take up the test and lessons, depends how well and effective you construct the learning structure and scenarios. its shouldn't be too boring and long like a chapter of history book neither too easy and short where the students feel that they wasted their money.

                  Finally you can't expect to have a waiting line outside your center initially. Better would be to have limited seats per batch and keep the center and team mobile nationally (like CSS does, internationally) for better coverage and PR.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Praful View Post
                    Umm, ABS saved you from creaming the Esteem actually.

                    If the car dint have ABS, the wheels would have locked and you would have gone skidding into the Esteem.

                    ABS helps you in maintain control of the vehicle, i.e. steer it. If the wheels would have locked up you have no steering control of the vehicle.

                    Wheels do lockup even in dry conditions if you stand on the brakes.

                    Bottomline: ABS saves!
                    OT.I steered left and stopped at the left kerb past the Esteem.Luckily no vehicle on the left lane.
                    When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Praful View Post
                      Umm, ABS saved you from creaming the Esteem actually.

                      If the car dint have ABS, the wheels would have locked and you would have gone skidding into the Esteem.

                      ABS helps you in maintain control of the vehicle, i.e. steer it. If the wheels would have locked up you have no steering control of the vehicle.

                      Wheels do lockup even in dry conditions if you stand on the brakes.

                      Bottomline: ABS saves!
                      Well said, but I still have points to add to this. From many angles. Pl wait for 36 hours for my writeup on how to use ABS

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