You cannot organize races on track unless sanctioned by the FMSCI and trust me, as an individual or startup group / club thats virtually impossible to do. If you want to race, join the national championship or one make races that are already in place. There are various categories from stock bikes to modified to superbikes.

thats what i was talking about.

Anyways since this has been brought up i'll spend a few mins to explain how organized racing works here in india.

First up, forget the idea that you can rent one of the tracks as you do for a track day and conduct a race. For legal reasons that will not be allowed. Even when you hire the track for a trackday you have to sign a bond stating there will be no racing involved.

So how do you go about doing it the legal way? There are several steps and by the end of it the costs will be way beyond what you can imagine.

Step 1: You will have to register your group/ club/ company with the government

Step 2: You will then approach the FMSCI (Federation of Motorsports Clubs of India) stating that this is my group / company / club and these are the activities i'm planing and i would like to be a member of the FMSCI so i can conduct these events. The FMSCI have a committee of councilors who will then review your proposal and the majority have to accept it before you will be accepted as a member of the FMSCI. If you are an unknown in racing circles you can forget them even taking a look at your proposal, let alone reviewing it.

Step 3: By some miracle if you are accepted as a member of the FMSCI you then have to pay the fee's for a permit to conduct races. This will come to roughly a lac rupees for each race including steward fees. Then you have to pay track rent fee's which will run into several lacs (double digit) for one weekend. You also have to obtain police permission to conduct the event and that will have its own 'under the table' charges also.

Step 4: Finally after all this you can conduct your event and at this point you will have a whole bunch of other costs to deal with (marketing, logistics, transport, other event costs etc). Note, you can conduct one off race events in this manner but you will not be allowed to conduct a national championship.

I have tried to list things at a high level without getting into too much detail, but hopefully this explains the complexity and sheer amount of money required to organize a race event in india. My friend and partner Anil from Apex Racing (footloose) can explain in more detail if needed. If you arent able to go through all this, just join the national championship and race..good luck!

Hi! Fellow riders,

If only organizing an event was this simple. As my partner Killer mentioned in another post, I too have been working in IT industry for 16 long years and then one fine day quite the job just to stick to my passion - Motorcycle Racing.

Killer has tried and mentioned a few points out there, Just to clarify a few point, no one person/club/organisation is against you to organise a event. its the law of the land and red tappism which is the hurdle and not the folks in Motorsports Federation.

In fact our current president Mr Vicky Chandok (foundly known as vicky uncle) is more than helpful to get more motorsports organisation to join FMSCI.

My sincere advice is go step by step and your first step is to register your club/organisation with companies registrar / Association registrar (State government organisation) and approach FMSCI to join them.

In case you need further details feel free to buzz us on ping at apexrracing dot in

I do not want to run an illegal street race organization, so I understand that the assistance and involvement of FMSCI and the state government is absolutely crucial in this development. And , I am not looking forward to just racing or the national championship for myself .

I understand that Racing is an expensive sport . And I am aware to a certain extent of all the steps that you've have mentioned above . I am not just another biker who wants to make it big in national racing. If I had such plans, I would have gone the national championship way like you mentioned .

To give you a more clearer picture mate, I am looking forward to bring racing at the lowest reachable level for every biker in the country. We do not want bikers to test their mettle on the streets and spoil the name of motorcycling culture which is slowly developing in the country. Instead, provide them a platform to showcase their talent and prove their mettle on the track. Our platform will help the potential bikers to take the leap to the next level of track racing i.e. National Championships. You must be aware of the complications, financial constraints and other hurdles to get into track racing , a very expensive sport.

Thank you so much for your feedback and I look forward to many more contribution from your end. I am open to all the suggestions, criticism and feedback, so feel free to put forth your point based on facts ...

Like I explained earlier, I do understand in great depths about the complications involved in organizing motorsports in India. I have kept these things under careful consideration before starting this thread. I also believe your point about all the motorsport enthusiasts including Vicky Sir who are eager to help and assist motorsport organizations . I am surely going to take this one step at a time.

Well, all your inputs are valuable throughout and your support will help this development in the long run. I am in the early phases where I am trying to do a kind of feasibility (sustainability) study for this project. Starting this is not a big problem for me, I want to know how sustainable is this in the long run and how it will help to change the face of Motorcycling in India.

Hence, I would like to request all you guys to help garner the participation of all the community members in this discussion. This will not only help to understand the consumer behavior towards this project but also to understand what is missing and what can be enhanced to suit it for every biker in the country.

From my experience, the only way to achieve this is to build tracks across the country so racers can access them locally. The single biggest reason you dont see guys from up north coming down to the tracks here is the cost invovled for transport. The actual racing in the Group D (stock) class in the nationals is not very expensive, its the track accessibility and transport cost's that deters participation. I appreciate your enthusiasm and your intentions are very noble, but the road ahead is very rough and with the current scenario 'sustainability' for what you are trying to do depends on how much money you are willing to loose. Even then success is not guaranteed.

I've been on this forum for about a decade and i can tell you from experience, it is unlikely you will see any further valuable input from others beyond this point. Its unfortunate but thats just the state of things in this country. People want to race but want everything 'ready to go' for as cheap as possible. There is little thought about what it takes to make things happen. There will be a few high enthu folks who will respond with kudos on your initiative etc but when it comes to putting money down, most will back away. Figuring this out, putting a plan into action and shelling out money, everything will rest entirely on your shoulders. Many will say i'm a pessimist as far as this is concerned but i prefer to call myself a realist. I've merely stated the facts, now use them and make a change. Good luck

You ve put it down in a really neat way, killer. If I have learned anything about the racing scene in India through forums, then it would be through killer and Joel mostly here in xbhp and as killer has mentioned , if any valuable inputs have to come in this thread, then it would be from these sources alone ! Not much can be done in a country like ours where even the govt has such a pity attitude towards motor sports even though our country has their own F1 team, F1 drivers and now even TWO moto gp teams. I wonder if anything will change in coming years owing to these reasons.
Even i was so much fascinated from the day i started seeing bikes and cars , every exhaust note was like music to my ears ever since i know them ! Finally my passion automatically led me to take up automobile engg in my studies too as i wanted myself to be associated with cars and bikes all over my life. It was at this time that i was introduced to this amazing world of xbhp some 4 years back. As like any other normal enthusiasts, i also wanted to become a professional racer from india, i was glad that i joined such a beautiful forum where i can get ample details regarding this. Finally i bought a RTR160 which was the lone Track bike in those days till R15 landed in our soil, with the intention of becoming a prof sometime in near future . But only later i plunged deep into the minute details of the sport and the scene in our country regarding the same, found out how difficult it is to enter this ... But now, i believe things have taken a good turn towards the positive side, i see CSS coming to india for track lessons, etc.
At present , Apex racing is doing a marvelous job of starting a racing academy for many wannabe s like us who wanted to start our career. I hope , i ll be able to atleast attend their sessions by next year. At first you had mentioned about working monotonously in IT industry leaving all our passions , but dude, its only money that matters in present day life if you wanna live in this World ! For anything and everything , you need money and there is no other place to earn quick bucks other than IT industry !! Even today, no parent let their son to go on riding bikes in the track and lead a life. its our passion and in order to take it forward, its our necessity to make money . I ve read somewhere about 'Sarath's Debut with Ten ten racing', how hard it was to convince his parents to let her son come to this racing scene and not to waste an amazing talent the country has got. The primary concern with anybody who wish to come to racing scene is the finance and luckily sarath got enough sponsors coz of the team efforts and we can see where he is standing now with head held high enough for all us indians to be proud of !
Though not completely impossible, hope your dream becomes a success story anytime in your life. kudos to sameer,joel, and many others who have really contributed to this sport over all these years and continuing to do so igniting fuel to dreams of poor souls like us to come forward.

" track accessibility and transport costs " - this is one very CRUCIAL factor .. I agree with you. I'm glad you are giving me a realistic view of the current scenario in India. All right, all said , now as you said - " Figuring this out, putting a plan into action and shelling out money, everything will rest entirely on your shoulders " . I have given this a fair amount of thought when the idea struck me long time ago. So, I know the amount of dedication and participation that I have to put in to turn this into reality.
I assume you have a lot of experience into what I want to bring about. So, I want you to guide me and assist me in turning this mammoth task at hand into reality. Now, lets get some more concrete facts here -

I can arrange the finance. I can get the resources required to kick start this. What I want from you and the people out here is participation. IF the COST of racing can be brought down to what avid bikers can afford easily, will you go for it ?? IF I provide you the track and the facilities at affordable prices, will you pursue STOCK BIKE racing ??

I would like to request you and your good friends on and off the forum to give it a serious thought & the least you can do is share your views . I've heard the name Joel on the forum for quite some time now, if you are a close contact , can you ask him to share his views here on this idea.

" i see CSS coming to india for track lessons, etc " ... This my dear friend is just the beginning. F1 and MotoGP is another feather to the cap. In a country of 1.2 billion, can't we find 2 good riders to race in the MotoGP ?? The reason is the accessibility and the reach for the aspiring bikers. I am trying to provide a platform at the lowest possible level. Thank you Varun for sharing your views here and look forward to the same participation from you going ahead.

If bikers themselves don't want to come ahead and do their least bit by sharing their views, it will be nearly an impossible goal to achieve.

NOW, to shoot right in your face -
If the platform is created , how many of you will actually come forward to race your stock bike on the race track locally ?? (of course, at affordable costs & I really mean affordable )

killer and VarunRTR have put everything in a nutshell.

@CBZ:

Great idea and initiative there! I would love to do it man! Being a student (and having very STRICT parents :/), if its affordable I wouldn't mind racing! Sarath Kumar has taken my inspiration to a new level!

But if you are talking about Pune (which I think most likely you are), then its going to be a problem for me. :/

It might eventually start with Chennai or Bangalore since the motorsport following is maximum in these parts of the country. But, it won't be long before it's available in all the major metros simultaneously once the first project kicks off successfully. And by success, I do not mean monetary aspects alone, I primarily focus on SUSTAINABILITY and RECEPTIVITY.

So, please ask other community members from Chennai to contribute to this forum for me to confirm on the feasibility to start in Chennai/Bangalore to start with.

Great initiative! Unfortunately i'm quite busy with my own business and have something similar in mind too. A World class driving school. It could go hand in hand with a powerful initiative like yours. Will try my best to make it for the G2G. Please pardon my ignorance as I haven't read this page. But I feel a Mumbai Pune G2G in May is called for.

I know this is just the beginning of what all coming to indian soil. Hope F1 becomes a reality here this year and Moto gp too in the coming years. May this pave way for a bright future for the motorsport to reign in this country and let people know sports is much more than cricket.
As part of this new gen cult, we can see Volkswagen very actively promoting their polo cup in india just like they do in germany , etc in a very professional way, but still that is kind of out of reach of many unless there are so many sponsors . But then, its kind of cheap, considering your entry into professional car racing scene and VW is providing their own polo 1.6 for it too!! I saw that you are planning to start up in the south, but just if you take a look at the drivers list in VW cup, u can hardly see any of the south indians in that, not sure why, but i think that parents are still very much reluctant to send their sons to motor sports even if it is a car, which is safer ! There are so many filthy rich families in kerala, so many of them having interest in this too, but when it comes to profession, nothing comes in front of their eyes, other than investment in land or gold.My friend had got into it but had to cancel coz of non acceptance at home. Last time there was only one guy from kerala in the same , that too at the verge of their age limit for the cup, i.e.27. North can be a better option as there are a lot more people who may be ready to take a plunge into this readily .( just my opinion, nothin else)
Similar to that, we saw yamaha making their grand re entry in india with their flagship R15 and encouraging its users to race on the track by arranging a platform for that in the form of R15 championship. though it lacked professionalism and arranged very shabbily( been to that once with my friend) , safety gears used were bare minimum, so many wannabe stunters stunting and showing off in the pit lane, etc, etc . Still it offers a chance for its users to make out, what R15 is capable of . May be its a
marketing gimmick with yamaha to let the people know why its priced at such a premium than others. Now Kawasaki is also following their way by conducting green day for the ninja owners to rip the hell out of their babies in a safe environment. i dont know how it went by , hope it was better than yamaha R15 championships.

I dont know if you have done your homework and what all is running through your mind right now, if such a platformis created, i will support it fully by any possible means. More than us members, guys like joel, killer, apex can lead you better . good luck

Thanks mate !! I already have the Advanced Riding School on the plan to teach everybody professional track racing before they can hit the tarmac. It would be a great idea to team up to take this revolution to the next level. We can have a one-to-one on this and can exchange our knowledge to bring out something fruitful out of it. Since we don't live really that far, if you have plans to come down to Pune during this month, you can drop by at Lonavla . And maybe if I come down to Mumbai, we can meet up . And definitely a Mumbai Pune G2G is alwayz welcome.

Thanks Varun for your valuable and detailed contribution towards this thread. I really appreciate it and hope it continues with the same zeal.
I am looking exclusively on STOCK BIKE racing and not bothered about the development in cars. The expenses double when the number of wheels double. But, that is not a point of concern for us.
The location finalization is yet to happen. And I agree North can be a valuable option.
The Yamaha R15 Championships are going steady if not strong, consistently over the last two and a half years..
I have not found anything concrete about the Ninja Racing yet. So, can you check any relevant articles about Ninja Racing, if it does exist !!
I am doing a lot of homework on this project since it show tremendous potential in our country in the near future.
Killer and Footloose (apex racing) have been very supportive through their contributions. And I also look forward to Joel and other senior members very soon.

Now thats what I am talking about! You got my support ! 110%! Will send messages to all those adrenalin junkies out there

You get me a crowd of 90 really interested junkies, and Chennai it will be !! dats my word !! (Ek bar jo maine commitment de di, uske bad tho main apne aap ki bhi nahi sunta ) On a serious note, the audience is absolutely one of the very most important factors to start something like this, So please give your best to get more support for this !!