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    Discuss other Performance Kit experiences here.

    Guys,

    As we know, the best performance equipment for our motorcycles is largely accepted to be Joel's exhausts, big bore kits, air filters, etc.
    But there are problems to the same. Joel makes specific kits for only 5-6 bikes like ZMA, R15, P220, P200, RTR Twins, etc.

    If you have other bikes, you can't use Joel's kits. And selling your bike might not always be a good option. If I had a lot of good times and great memories on my Pulsar 180 like good roadtrips, some good stunts, etc. than I wouldn't want to sell it even if I have the cash.

    Also, we already have tons of testimonials to Joel's 165cc kits, etc.

    So, I would like to open this topic, so that members can share experiences from performance kits, other than those of Joel...

    My stock silencer has rusted a lot and I was looking at good replacements; I need a good aftermarket exhaust which should be safer but slightly better performing, compared to stock exhaust?
    Any suggestions? I have a P180 UG3...

    I had a talk with KRP people, they were not receptive... They were diverting from one number to another..
    Last edited by Samarth 619; 08-14-2011, 11:01 PM.
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    • #3
      Sir, I have nothing for the P180 now. Again, my development is targetted more on our racing projects and street developments for premium engines.
      Right now, the R15 and RTR takes the limelight in racing. The CBR 250 is the next plan. The Karizma, FZ and P220 are excellent street fighters when tuned.
      Bikes like the CBZX, P180, Unicorn, CB Dazzler, Acheiver etc are commuter oriented internally. The p180 shares a few bits with the bigger brother, so if there is a demand (which we have not seen) for hotrodding a particular version, I will surely look into it.
      For now the CBR250 and the Ninja 250 is added to the list. The Ninja 650 will also have some tune packages later.
      Eventually the 150cc class will grow bigger to the 250cc segment, so lets welcome the change. The CBR is a sweet bomb!
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      • #4
        samarth for the price the krp exhausts are not worth it ,they sound crappy , infact most aftermarket ones do . better buy some other exhausts for some loud noise and they will cost under 4k easily for the good finished ones . dont expect hp gains though . you can also look at the malaysian and indonesian kits .

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Joel View Post
          Sir, I have nothing for the P180 now. Again, my development is targetted more on our racing projects and street developments for premium engines.
          Right now, the R15 and RTR takes the limelight in racing. The CBR 250 is the next plan. The Karizma, FZ and P220 are excellent street fighters when tuned.
          Bikes like the CBZX, P180, Unicorn, CB Dazzler, Acheiver etc are commuter oriented internally. The p180 shares a few bits with the bigger brother, so if there is a demand (which we have not seen) for hotrodding a particular version, I will surely look into it.
          For now the CBR250 and the Ninja 250 is added to the list. The Ninja 650 will also have some tune packages later.
          Eventually the 150cc class will grow bigger to the 250cc segment, so lets welcome the change. The CBR is a sweet bomb!
          I understand bro. You explained that you make limited custom parts, and P180 is a commuter engine, so its not feasible.

          Again, if the demand shows up like you said, I'm open to other ideas than exhausts like big bores, cylinder head change, etc. In fact, I believe that big bore/ head change will make it suitable for your custom exhaust too.
          Anyday, I would prefer your parts over any other.

          What can I do bro? I just can't find the heart to sell it after all those good times I spent with it.

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          @ Jeanie: I see. So, performance won't be priority in those exhausts. That's too bad. Thanks for the headsup.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Joel View Post
            For now the CBR250 and the Ninja 250 is added to the list. The Ninja 650 will also have some tune packages later.... The CBR is a sweet bomb!
            Please don't tell me to buy the CBR!!! Its (my personal opinion, no offense to anyone) terrible handling and gets its panties twisted when put through the loops. So are you telling me to get a Ninja 250 sometime soon?
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            • #7
              So guys, what do I do? Should I get the stock P180 exhaust from Bajaj itself? Is it the only decent option left?
              Any suggestions on a good aftermarket exhaust for P180?

              Today, I rode the P180 of Deejay bro, and it felt x times better than my bike... My bike now feels like its been misused, although that never happened.

              It's all due to that silencer I'm sure... Since it leaked glasswool, it's behaving strange!
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              • #8
                You can contact Automech(AutoMECH Engineers), they are the 2nd best makers of exhaust systems, talking about only performance.
                Also glasswool does not affect performance, just sound.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by abhayshanu View Post
                  You can contact Automech(AutoMECH Engineers), they are the 2nd best makers of exhaust systems, talking about only performance.
                  Also glasswool does not affect performance, just sound.
                  The link says they have exhausts only for cars.. Should I contact them anyways?
                  Secondly, I saw a decrease in performance and smoothness only after some glasswool was removed.
                  I can't say, but DJ bro's Pulsar was much smoother and torquey noticably...

                  This Anjita Bajaj service has screwed my bike!! To hell with their service...
                  Can't some folks from Bajaj Auto help/ guide me??
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                  • #10
                    They make exhausts for bikes, all kinds. Also I think that his bike might be in better condition than yours, as I dont see any relation between Glasswool and Performance, maybe I am uninformed but it just doesnt make any sense.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by abhayshanu View Post
                      They make exhausts for bikes, all kinds. Also I think that his bike might be in better condition than yours, as I dont see any relation between Glasswool and Performance, maybe I am uninformed but it just doesnt make any sense.
                      Maybe its some sort of balance that the glasswool maintains. Because apart from performance, when I rev and leave the throttle, the revs drop down without the normal smoothness and sound.


                      Also, I contacted AutoMech Exhausts via e-mail, and they have exhausts for 200/ 220 and P180 UG4, but there's no exhaust for Pulsar 180 UG3.
                      Any other place where I can get a very basic but well made performance exhaust?

                      Joel has refused, Automech have refused, what else are my options? That KRP which is supposedly told as crap by people...?
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post
                        Maybe its some sort of balance that the glasswool maintains. Because apart from performance, when I rev and leave the throttle, the revs drop down without the normal smoothness and sound.


                        Also, I contacted AutoMech Exhausts via e-mail, and they have exhausts for 200/ 220 and P180 UG4, but there's no exhaust for Pulsar 180 UG3.
                        Any other place where I can get a very basic but well made performance exhaust?

                        Joel has refused, Automech have refused, what else are my options? That KRP which is supposedly told as crap by people...?
                        Hey dude, i have a A180 and even i'm in a similar position to yours.
                        I dont wanna leave this bike ever, i'll buy a new one, but wont leave this
                        I have decided to go with joel's big bore kit but i dont like his exhaust, i dont like its design and the chrome... If he offers a carbon fiber for a higher price(heard rumors) then i'll be the first one to take it... but there is no confirmation from his side. So, i'm in the lookout for a reliable performance increasing exhaust...
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Joel View Post
                          Sir, I have nothing for the P180 now. Again, my development is targetted more on our racing projects and street developments for premium engines.
                          Right now, the R15 and RTR takes the limelight in racing. The CBR 250 is the next plan. The Karizma, FZ and P220 are excellent street fighters when tuned.
                          Bikes like the CBZX, P180, Unicorn, CB Dazzler, Acheiver etc are commuter oriented internally. The p180 shares a few bits with the bigger brother, so if there is a demand (which we have not seen) for hotrodding a particular version, I will surely look into it.
                          For now the CBR250 and the Ninja 250 is added to the list. The Ninja 650 will also have some tune packages later.
                          Eventually the 150cc class will grow bigger to the 250cc segment, so lets welcome the change. The CBR is a sweet bomb!
                          Joel Bro, now you give reboring kits for all these bikes (Achiever, CBZX, Unicorn, Dazzler, etc.) except the P180. (I understand that this reboring part appears to be common for all these Honda 150's).

                          But you can still have a similar rebore kit for most of the Pulsar family, including P150 UG3, P180 UG3, and P150 UG4 and UG 4.5. Anything like 160cc and 190cc will do just fine!

                          Everytime I try to talk to you seriously about P180's kits demand, you just post a negative message or ignore. (Referring to your other threads).
                          Can't you just take out 15 minutes to talk to me over Yahoo Messenger, Facebook chat, etc.?
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                          • #14
                            @ samrath :check out his company website raceconcepts.in he has never made out a package for cbzX , unicorn , dazzler , achiever read that properly he just said they are commuter oriented and no scope of race tuning them to my knowledge he works on RTRs (both 160 and 180) P220 hh ZMA R15 FZ and Honda city(4wheelers sorry for OT mods) he previously had kits for cbz classic and tvs fiero dont know if he still gives those packages hope i ve cleared you doubt and cbr250r the new addition
                            @joel bro : my question is too irrevalent as of now but just asking out of curiosity once i read one of your post in which you said any short stroke motor is capable of being tuned to a very aggressive state so does that mean can we expect some thing from RACE CONCEPTS for duke and p200ns in near future ; sorry for counting the chickens before they hatch

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                            • #15
                              ^^Even though the raceconcepts site has not be updated,Joel had launched the big bore kits for all the Honda/Hero 150cc engines a few days ago.

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