Not really. Its the way gears are designed for normal cars. i.e. "H" pattern. Meaning, for exmple, to change from second to third, you have to first shift up, then move right and then shift up again. Thats three moves. Similar for 4th to 5th. Besides cars has long throw as well unless they are race specs. Where as in bikes, its just one step up.

Lol !!!

+1; Exactly. We're all simply discussing the PWR, Bhp of motorcycles here, not knowing what we should be discussing.

+1

But if a car driver cannot pull ahead of me because he hasn't got a sequential shifter from the manufacturer, is definitely not my problem.

Also,most car drivers haven't heard of things like- Revs!

So,when I say s**k that includes driver's ignorance towards these things too.

well, to compare cars with bike, you have to first fix a base. you can not compare a honda city with pulsars or apaches or even it is unfair to compare a 4lakh zen with 65000 P180.

first form a base, either price or engine capacity or power to weight ratio.

Oh! Maybe you should visit Team-Bhp sometimes. Btw, You are forgetting that most two wheelers are commuters who doesn't care about 'Revs' either...its all about mileage .

You are dragging whole discussion somewhere else.Why would a splendor guy rev? There's no base of discussion in this. You can say a Honda City Vtec can beat a Splendor,which is very true! And I will reply that an Alto can be easily beaten by the N250R. That's what will happen if you talk car vs bike in general,which is happening now! And I need not to visit teambhp if a person there rips the nuts off his car.As long as we haven't met and raced against each other,he's no one to me and vice-versa.

Also,I am as much a car person as with the bikes. Active member on teambhp as well.

Being a xbhpian and a teambhpian myself,I can tell you that I chase redline more in my bike than in cars. In a car I tend to feel and act mature,enjoy the drive rather than trying to rip it to the cores.Whereas on a bike,I kind of act MENTAL.The kind of adrenaline rush that a mere 220cc Pulsar or RTR 180 gives at a dismal price is unmatched by any of the cars,this side of 10 lac price range.PERIOD!

There are more chances of rider-me racing with cars than a driver-me chasing bikes.

Bring supercars in picture, like the ongoing Diavel and CLS63 AMG duel,then I would happily choose the AMG over the bike.

@ shivank

Sir, Lets not involve Supercars and bikes, its straight and simple there as we all know there are many 1000cc bikes out there that will kick the but* of even a Bugatti from 0-300Kays after which its the known story, (Bikes are electronically limited to 300Kays in respect to the Universal legal norm due to handling)

And thanks to every one for your posts, Really lots of inputs.

Nice Topic!

Well anyone who has driven and ridden already know the answer.
In my view cars out do motorcycles in below aspects
1) Comfort - I don't prefer most of the times
2) Saftey - Though it is purely in the hands of the driver/rider.
3) Topspeed - An usual hatchback can outrun most of the perf bikes here.
4) Endurance - I mean a rider needs more stops than a driver.
5) Brake - it is on all fours obviously it wins.

And in my experience with few occasional long runs on my CBR250 on NH7 there has been no car to match my CBR . Cars are very much traffic allergic (less confident on overtaking manuvers).
Bike shine in following aspects :
1) Acceleration - quick shifts and wide rev range assists that.
2) Manuverability - No need explanation.
3) On really bad bumps - Just get off from the seat, where a car would be in a dancing contest.
4) Overtaking - Personally I feel more confident on a bike than in a car.
5) versatility - Where ever, when ever and how ever !
And last but not least
6) Xfactor - Without any doubt a bike always has that a lot.

A trip is made of two things Journey and Destination

Those who focus only on Destination take a car, I always focus on both I take a bike because I am a RIDER !!!!

Well I'm not that technically sound... but what i feel after clocked 1900+ Kms in CBR250

How are Bikes compared to Cars, when it comes to Performance?
Bikes, in acceleration, but if top speed well car will do if driver are willing to take it above 145... else it's bike

Can a bike compete with a car at the highway on long commuting?
Well yes, what i experience yesterday and today. I was riding at NH8 Baroda Bharuch section, one Shift Dzier overtake me when i was in 100, I just give push to my hand and i found myself with that car, and after that finally i overtake him at 138 and it's gose till toll boot came, as i said it's depends upon person who is driving...

Same day
after Toll boot i stop for some time and when i start again one Scorpio came and this time also it was a hard time for that scorpio that it's not able to over take me i was at 135+ till 35Kms patch... it's 6 lane Highway....

How about Acceleration, Cars too claim a good 0-100 Sprint?
Bikes... are batter....

Well it's what i experienced till now... it's my personal view...

well, i will again repeat myself, we need a base to compare, most ppl here seems to be of the opinion that cars outdo bike in terms of topspeed. this is not true.

you cant say that because indian cars can beat indian bikes in terms of top speed because you are comparing an atleast 3 lakh car with a 60,000 rupees bike, compare a car and a bike from same price range, then see who beats whom, and remember bikes speed are electronically limited to i think around 300 kmph.

Ok gotta break the myth guys, no litre class stock motorbike can beat a stock bugatti veyron. As the case with bikes electronically limited to 300k's a veyron too is electronically limited and it can blow any liter class or more in stock form.

A few reasons cars are better at top speed, stability and handling.
Cars are way better aerodynamically, have the weight to carry it off, more tires to efficiently deliver power to road and the wheelbase. Bikes have a huge limitation in all these constraints.

We are not comparing bikes and cars by any rationale, its understood. Not by price, not by cc and not by bhp or torque. True the closest thing we are talking is power to weight ratio. But the reason this topic was started, was to clear our best doubt.

I as a rider with most or the best of Indian stock production bikes, can or cannot beat a stock production car, by acceleration, top speed, or handling. With no regard to any rationale. This is not about the drivers, not about quick shifters or rev limit riders, nor about city or traffic. Is your bike better than a car MACHINE to MACHINE. Answer is NO.

If you wanna find out the answer, find a safe strip of road ride your best stock bike apache rtr 180, r15, p220, karizma zmr or the likes these are the premium segment Indian bikes against a mid segment stock Indian car, with apt riders and drivers on both, you don't have to go as far as a premium segment Indian car to find out the answer.

You cannot push a bike as much as you can a car, stability, wind resistance, road grip, cornering speeds..

But apart from highways bikes have a great hand at going ahead in traffic, decent traffic and short sprints. My answer was just in pure performance terms. Ego massages, come free. We ride ahead about 95% of the time, only at the least of times do we face the fact that they can do better.

A swift can do 160 easy and a Scorpio can do worse, try an innova it would match a scorpio as well.

Yes Indian stock cars do, out do Indian stock bikes in top speed, no doubts.

but that is no criteria of comparison- still fastest indian bike -- P220.

indian cars- tata indica and manza & mahindra scorpio.

0-100 P220 is unbeatable, after that its unfair to compare it with a 2 litre machine.

wait for P650 then see..

other cars are not indian. if you consider maruti suzuki as indian here comes N650 and GT650R.

so its baseless to compare.

indian bikes vs indian cars...

Of course it is baseless to compare, we are just intimidated by some other machines running beside us. We feel they are competition on roads, so a question arises, can they out run us and we are just answering those queries, that's all.

Of course maruti suzuki is indian bro, though it may be corroboration with a foreign company it still is factory produced in India. Innova too is produced in India. Ninja's are not Indian production bikes nor GT650's, these are CBU imports and Mid or high performance sport variants. If we bring those in then lets open car barriers too, there are loads of CBU import cars and sport variant cars that can beat either one of those in India.

My base in terms of comparing a honda city with a P150 was power to weight ratio, what makes us think that we cannot compare those two in terms of P-W?
The other criterias such as top speed or acceleration would be inclusive with P-W but in a method which is close to "fair" but it is the closest we can get.

If we take price into consideration as a comparison base for 'Indian' car/bike, we're going to start talking about Tata Nano Vs Yamaha R15/ZMR/P220.
We know how that race is going to look like, dont we?

CBU bikes cannot be included since the thread is about Indian Bikes Vs Cars.
Any thoughts on what we should be using as a base for comparison?

+1 Very Sensible!