General SBK Discussion Thread

[TenHut]

yep...they are lifestyle bikes ! to each his own ofcourse..thats a given.
Jimmy Choos are awesome dude

[harleyfine]

Hello streetfighter,i have a GSXR-1000,one of a few others ive had over the years.Todays inline fours will make as much torque as a twin.Whre the twin scores is that it will make it EARLIER ,so,thats why you can pull wheelies at a lesser velocity than the chappie on an inline 4.Ducati has "heritage" and thats what the money is for.
Riders like you and VJ are the best ive seen.Its the rider that counts and not the bike.
A rider like VJ will dispatch most "professionally trained " riders with "3 or 4" bikes ,riding a 600.And you will probably outwheelie them.
Still ,i feel the Gixxer 1000 is far better than the blade.

[insane79]

Hello streetfighter,i have a GSXR-1000,one of a few others ive had over the years.Todays inline fours will make as much torque as a twin.Whre the twin scores is that it will make it EARLIER ,so,thats why you can pull wheelies at a lesser velocity than the chappie on an inline 4.Ducati has "heritage" and thats what the money is for.
Riders like you and VJ are the best ive seen.Its the rider that counts and not the bike.
A rider like VJ will dispatch most "professionally trained " riders with "3 or 4" bikes ,riding a 600.And you will probably outwheelie them.
Still ,i feel the Gixxer 1000 is far better than the blade.

I agree with you btw Welcome to the Forum

[Streetfighter]

Hello streetfighter,i have a GSXR-1000,one of a few others ive had over the years.Todays inline fours will make as much torque as a twin.Whre the twin scores is that it will make it EARLIER ,so,thats why you can pull wheelies at a lesser velocity than the chappie on an inline 4.Ducati has "heritage" and thats what the money is for.
Riders like you and VJ are the best ive seen.Its the rider that counts and not the bike.
A rider like VJ will dispatch most "professionally trained " riders with "3 or 4" bikes ,riding a 600.And you will probably outwheelie them.
Still ,i feel the Gixxer 1000 is far better than the blade.

I love my wheeeeeelieeees. I too seem to like the gixxer a little more than the blade. But let's face it, a duc is a duc is a duc. Let the whiners here cringe at the price and how ducati is cheating the world, I've heard a lot of this before. I would get bored of my bikes in 6 months but I don't see How I can get bored with the sf, even if I do there's nothing I can replace it with. Perhaps an additional superduke r? Or a hypermotard.

[niranjanvaidya]

I love my wheeeeeelieeees. I too seem to like the gixxer a little more than the blade. But let's face it, a duc is a duc is a duc. Let the whiners here cringe at the price and how ducati is cheating the world, I've heard a lot of this before. I would get bored of my bikes in 6 months but I don't see How I can get bored with the sf, even if I do there's nothing I can replace it with. Perhaps an additional superduke r? Or a hypermotard.

so you a thru and thru ducatisti? good for you! To each his own :P

[TenHut]

Riders like you and VJ are the best ive seen.Its the rider that counts and not the bike.
A rider like VJ will dispatch most "professionally trained " riders with "3 or 4" bikes ,riding a 600.And you will probably outwheelie them.
Still ,i feel the Gixxer 1000 is far better than the blade.

lol...I have a strong feeling that your entire post is addressed towards me.
Welcome !
Dont throw around sentences like gixxer is far better than the blade. I am not contesting whether it is or not but at least mention the departments you are basing your comparision on. Handling, Braking, Acceleration, Engine refinement, ergonomics, low range, mid punch, top end etc. Each bike is made for different purposes so they all outdo each other in various departments and vice versa. If you say X is FAR BETTER than Y it means either you own X or are just indulging in a hate speech for which you just made a new account on xBHP lol

if u want gixxer vs blade FAIR comparo u have a few here.
2010 CBR 1000RR and the 2010 Gsxr1000 - Honda Motorcycles - FireBlades.org
Notice that although its a site called "fireblades.org" there is zero owner affinity towards fireblades there and more ppl are rooting for the gixxer on a blade forum.

[Streetfighter]

lol...I have a strong feeling that your entire post is addressed towards me.
Welcome !
Dont throw around sentences like gixxer is far better than the blade. I am not contesting whether it is or not but at least mention the departments you are basing your comparision on. Handling, Braking, Acceleration, Engine refinement, ergonomics, low range, mid punch, top end etc. Each bike is made for different purposes so they all outdo each other in various departments and vice versa. If you say X is FAR BETTER than Y it means either you own X or are just indulging in a hate speech for which you just made a new account on xBHP lol

if u want gixxer vs blade FAIR comparo u have a few here.
2010 CBR 1000RR and the 2010 Gsxr1000 - Honda Motorcycles - FireBlades.org

Notice that although its a site called "fireblades.org" there is zero owner affinity towards fireblades there and more ppl are rooting for the gixxer on a blade forum.

Hate speech no no, no one hates any bike as much as you hate ducati, the reason being irrelevant. Let's roll back, you posted a pic of a cb show bike saying twice the power at half the price. If you were trolling as you say then I fail to understand the reason? Is it off season at the track?

If you actually believed that then you have some learning to do.

If Harleyfine is who I think he is then he has owned more bikes than you and me must have seen in magazines.

[sheelpriye]

If Harleyfine is who I think he is then he has owned more bikes than you and me must have seen in magazines.

Welcome harleyfine
Can't seem to recall him or his Motorcycles, any hint AMK?

Edit-- Can someone pour some info on race ABS? There was a difference of .01 between GSX-R and Fireblade MMRT and the ABS was blamed for this.
^can ABS trigger be de-activated? I think TH had replied to this query, but can't recall it as of now.

[AsimB]

Lets say we have a base 1198. The price difference between the liter bikes and the base 1198 is only $3000, which isnt a lot. Now if you tune the shit out of the 1198 youl get something much better :P and the brakes on the 1198 are already much superior than the others and you dont have to spend any money trying to make it any more lighter than it already is.

As for the S the DTC itself is worth close to 5k. And yes it does make a difference.

@TenHut
Here you go, read my comments on a BASE 1198, and why I feel the price difference is justified. It would be better if you read all posts before throwing words around. So YES i was talking about the stock 1198. It weighs just a couple of kilos more than the S still lighter than the rest.

You still dont give any details on why you want to own a 1198s. It is not difficult to get that youre buying a 1198s coz you think its good, why would you think thats difficult? Its difficult to understand why you want to buy it when you havent given one sensible reason to justify it.

I never once claimed its the best bike, now youre putting words in my mouth :P all my justifications were arguments to your one and only statement, ducs are overpriced!

FYI. i dont think the duc is the best bike to own because i bought one. I BOUGHT it because i believe its the best to own. I dont even have to ride it to appreciate it. Its common practice for people to keep ducs in their living rooms (i dont), theres a reason for that.

I dont expect you to only praise the duc, but going on and on and on about just the pricing has gotten boring. If you really want to compare tuned bikes then just look at WSBK, you know who's dominated that!

Thats like saying if u wanna talk of a bike you better just praise it. Just say "awesome bike" dont discuss anything else.

Youre contradicting yourself here, all you did was talk about the negatives. Isnt that the same?

So about the graphs I posted the only difference between the S and the base 1198 are the DTC, ohlins, steering damper, and some weight reducing components. The graphs are NOT significantly different for either.

Im tired of talking about the price, i have one youre going to get one.

[Noor]

Relax guys can we do this in a calm manner please Looks like we are getting personal here..

Obviously its a good topic to share views on, but lets not use flamethrower on eachother.

Happy Posting

[TenHut]

@TenHut
Here you go,
I never once claimed its the best bike, now youre putting words in my mouth :P all my justifications were arguments to your one and only statement, ducs are overpriced!
I dont expect you to only praise the duc, but going on and on and on about just the pricing has gotten boring. If you really want to compare tuned bikes then just look at WSBK, .

Do you follow WSBK or do u just look at the results. Even seasoned ducati riders raise an eyebrow at the enormous cc advantage WSBK gave them, just to keep them from taking their ball and going home...
Nevermind...lets kill this here. Ciao. Ride Safe.

[harleyfine]

hello streetfighter,
no no i am not targeting anyone personally but everyone is entitled to his say in a "democracy" so lets see.This is what i feel.(i have probably met you somewhere,do u live in mumbai suburbs?)
Handling(GIXXER 1000 FAR BETTER,BLADE TENDS TO PITCH BACK AND FORTH.GIXXER HAS SHOWAS BIG PISTON FORKS,NO DIVE UNDER BRAKING AT ALL) Braking(BLADE WINS HANDS DOWN!! BUT LEVER FEEL IS SPONGY DUE TO ABS ,STILL I HAVE TO GIVE IT TO HONDA) Acceleration(GIXXER WILL LEAVE BLADE FOR DEAD) Engine refinement(HONDA BETTER)ergonomics(IF YOU WANT TO MEET THE PHYSIOTHERAPIST EVERY WEEK BUY BLADE,IF YOU ARE TOO BUSY BUY GIXXER) low range(BLADE KHATAM) mid punch(BLADE AND GIXXER NECK TO NECK) top end (BYE BYE BLADE)gixxer is dabanng,blade is scotch whisky sipping ranbir kapoor,"smooth".
As a refined product which will last many years ,HONDA HAS NO EQUAL!!I have had lets see,5 blades at various times and they were great!But then the gixxers motor is king,huge torque,hairy chested grunty engine.A mans bike.
I hope suzuki appoints me as their spokesperson for all these kind words haha

[harleyfine]

also is you see the "fair comparos"s" all of us that have some commonsenses left over after being jolted around mumbais bad roads will realise that-THEY ARE BOUGHT AND PAID FOR!!

[AsimB]

Do you follow WSBK or do u just look at the results. Even seasoned ducati riders raise an eyebrow at the enormous cc advantage WSBK gave them, just to keep them from taking their ball and going home...
Nevermind...lets kill this here. Ciao. Ride Safe.

Some say the 1200 limit is justified, some say it isnt. FIM allowed it, with a few restrictions, so it's going to stay that way. Also, 12 of their 13 wins (not manuf titles) were without any cc advantage. That's the other side of the argument.

I dont follow wsbk as much, just the last few yrs. I prefer watching motogp, its covered much better.

[csgup1]

Id like to see how long ducatis engines last in WSBK.... even though they have a massive cc advantage they are really highly strung to get maximum power out of them. great wheelie machines!!