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  • #16
    @paulsonaivy

    We filled 45ML of GT Oil in one of my friend's 3yr old R15, which had an Engine Oil/Oil filter change at the same time

    What I observed was after 200Kms the bike was zooming to rev limiter much faster and totally vibe free and also the engine noise has comedown.

    My friend is not sure about the mileage difference, coz he hasn't checked it yet.

    One seeing the breath taking performance from a 3yr old R15, We placed an order for a 250ML pack and I have filled my 3yr old R15 with 50ML.and he topped up 30ML to his bike.


    We both use Motul 15W50 Full Synthetic oil, the color of the oil is Green. Even while draining the used Motul FS oil the Green shade will be clearly seen.

    Now I have 2 questions,

    1) My friend has done about 500Kms and the oil has turned Brown and also I find his bike's oil level has come down by 100ML. But the smoothness and rev free nature is still sustained.

    2) I have done close to 200Kms, I do not notice any change in performance, engine noise or vibes, its all the same like it was before.

    PS: My Motul engine oil at the time of 50ML GTO treatment was just about 500Kms old, the greenish color in the oil was well retained and was almost equivalent to a fresh oil, also Oil filter was replaced while changing the engine oil.

    Also I applied the oil in both the bike's exactly the same way as mentioned in the brochure. I.e., applied in cold temperature and then idle the engine for 15mins.
    Last edited by HarishK; 01-17-2012, 02:26 AM.
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    • #17
      @paul

      i want to use this oil treatment in my bike Pulsar 150 DTS-i (UG3) done approx=90,000 kms.

      i have some doubts which i want you to clear point bu point.

      1) the company appears to be a very small one, with a very poor type of webpage and very few visits, why so. is nobody interested in it.

      2) why the company does not market the product properly like through TV, newspaper etc, or by making it available across the country at bike repair garage's or engine oil distributors, shops etc.

      3) why is there only one testimonial on its website.

      4) all the vehicles tested (as mentioned on website) are 4-wheelers and testimonial also refers to a 4 wheeler, so is this oil treatment only for 4-wheelers.

      5) oil requirements for cars and bikes are entirely different, how can one oil ttreatment be applied to both.

      6)bike engine oils requirements are very stringent - the oil should provide lubrication to all engine moving parts and at the same time also not provide lubrication to clutch plates, otherwise clutch plates will slip. how is this achieved.

      7) does it have friction busters like car oils.

      8) certain claims by fellow members who used your oil are so big that they can't be believed - like this one below claiming to get fuel efficiency up from 33kmpl to 55kmpl. seems like a magic wand working there- do you officially back such tall claims.

      Originally posted by shrinathrao View Post
      where i did a tank ful with 10 liters earlier it used to give me 330 km but than it started giving me 400 km and it went on improving with highest 550 km.
      9) mineral oils and synthetic oils are different, how can you say it can be used with any type of oil.

      10) i am saying above point because i am a regular user of Bardahl oil additive. when i mix bardahl with an average quality oil like castrol activ4t it increses the oil's performance significantly, but when mixed to a premium grade oil like castrol power1, the improvement is very small, because power1 in itself is so much superior to active4t that there is very less scope of improvement even by adding an additive. what do you say will be the results of using gt oil with a premium oil product.

      11) some other reputed oils also claim a drain interval of 10,000 kms, but it is bogus, when we ride the bike hard at higher speeds, we have to constantly top-up the oil to maintain the required level and under the kind of riding i do - of all the oils i tested (including fully sythetic and premium oils costing more than 800 rupees per litre and those claiming 10,000 kms oil drain interval) none of the oil was in a condition to stretch farther than 3500 kms.

      12) you have not answered the below question asked by a fellow biker-

      Originally posted by prajnyan View Post
      7. What about clutch slip?
      13) you have made some very tall claims in below mentioned statements, how do you plan to back it up with some results and tests, or is it just a marketing gimmick, either you should have very strong test results to back it up or avoid such statements-
      Originally posted by paulsonaivy View Post
      6)there wont be any maintance for the engineif you use gtoil
      awaiting your reply.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
        @paul

        i want to use this oil treatment in my bike Pulsar 150 DTS-i (UG3) done approx=90,000 kms.

        i have some doubts which i want you to clear point bu point.

        1) the company appears to be a very small one, with a very poor type of webpage and very few visits, why so. is nobody interested in it.

        2) why the company does not market the product properly like through TV, newspaper etc, or by making it available across the country at bike repair garage's or engine oil distributors, shops etc.

        3) why is there only one testimonial on its website.

        4) all the vehicles tested (as mentioned on website) are 4-wheelers and testimonial also refers to a 4 wheeler, so is this oil treatment only for 4-wheelers.

        5) oil requirements for cars and bikes are entirely different, how can one oil ttreatment be applied to both.

        6)bike engine oils requirements are very stringent - the oil should provide lubrication to all engine moving parts and at the same time also not provide lubrication to clutch plates, otherwise clutch plates will slip. how is this achieved.

        7) does it have friction busters like car oils.

        8) certain claims by fellow members who used your oil are so big that they can't be believed - like this one below claiming to get fuel efficiency up from 33kmpl to 55kmpl. seems like a magic wand working there- do you officially back such tall claims.



        9) mineral oils and synthetic oils are different, how can you say it can be used with any type of oil.

        10) i am saying above point because i am a regular user of Bardahl oil additive. when i mix bardahl with an average quality oil like castrol activ4t it increses the oil's performance significantly, but when mixed to a premium grade oil like castrol power1, the improvement is very small, because power1 in itself is so much superior to active4t that there is very less scope of improvement even by adding an additive. what do you say will be the results of using gt oil with a premium oil product.

        11) some other reputed oils also claim a drain interval of 10,000 kms, but it is bogus, when we ride the bike hard at higher speeds, we have to constantly top-up the oil to maintain the required level and under the kind of riding i do - of all the oils i tested (including fully sythetic and premium oils costing more than 800 rupees per litre and those claiming 10,000 kms oil drain interval) none of the oil was in a condition to stretch farther than 3500 kms.

        12) you have not answered the below question asked by a fellow biker-



        13) you have made some very tall claims in below mentioned statements, how do you plan to back it up with some results and tests, or is it just a marketing gimmick, either you should have very strong test results to back it up or avoid such statements-


        awaiting your reply.
        well abt clutch slip,
        the gtoil only works on metal where there is friction and heat,
        due to friction the gtoil forms a coating like a magnetic film ,due to which the friction is reduced and increases in milage

        pls go through the testimonials properly,u say there is just one tesimonial, were as there are more then 8 to 10 testimonias in it

        pls read the FAQs properly,

        if u have treated the engine with chemical based addititve ,u need to flush the engine properly,
        then treat it with gtoil,
        pls dont use bardahl, u r spoiling ur engine, if u dont use bardahl,the engine will start to make sound and need to overhaul ur engine sooner
        so pls be carefull,it only form a teflone based coating ,which is nothing but plastic (in lay mans terms)and melts at high temp.and then blocks oil passage, so pls be carfull,

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        • #19
          Originally posted by HarishK View Post
          @paulsonaivy

          We filled 45ML of GT Oil in one of my friend's 3yr old R15, which had an Engine Oil/Oil filter change at the same time

          What I observed was after 200Kms the bike was zooming to rev limiter much faster and totally vibe free and also the engine noise has comedown.

          My friend is not sure about the mileage difference, coz he hasn't checked it yet.

          One seeing the breath taking performance from a 3yr old R15, We placed an order for a 250ML pack and I have filled my 3yr old R15 with 50ML.and he topped up 30ML to his bike.


          We both use Motul 15W50 Full Synthetic oil, the color of the oil is Green. Even while draining the used Motul FS oil the Green shade will be clearly seen.

          Now I have 2 questions,

          1) My friend has done about 500Kms and the oil has turned Brown and also I find his bike's oil level has come down by 100ML. But the smoothness and rev free nature is still sustained.

          2) I have done close to 200Kms, I do not notice any change in performance, engine noise or vibes, its all the same like it was before.

          PS: My Motul engine oil at the time of 50ML GTO treatment was just about 500Kms old, the greenish color in the oil was well retained and was almost equivalent to a fresh oil, also Oil filter was replaced while changing the engine oil.

          Also I applied the oil in both the bike's exactly the same way as mentioned in the brochure. I.e., applied in cold temperature and then idle the engine for 15mins.
          the oil level has come down a little bit bcos all hydrocarbon oil tend to evaporate when heated,
          thats the only reason the oil level drops and not bcos of burning

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          • #20
            Originally posted by HarishK View Post
            @paulsonaivy

            We filled 45ML of GT Oil in one of my friend's 3yr old R15, which had an Engine Oil/Oil filter change at the same time

            What I observed was after 200Kms the bike was zooming to rev limiter much faster and totally vibe free and also the engine noise has comedown.

            My friend is not sure about the mileage difference, coz he hasn't checked it yet.

            One seeing the breath taking performance from a 3yr old R15, We placed an order for a 250ML pack and I have filled my 3yr old R15 with 50ML.and he topped up 30ML to his bike.


            We both use Motul 15W50 Full Synthetic oil, the color of the oil is Green. Even while draining the used Motul FS oil the Green shade will be clearly seen.

            Now I have 2 questions,

            1) My friend has done about 500Kms and the oil has turned Brown and also I find his bike's oil level has come down by 100ML. But the smoothness and rev free nature is still sustained.

            2) I have done close to 200Kms, I do not notice any change in performance, engine noise or vibes, its all the same like it was before.

            PS: My Motul engine oil at the time of 50ML GTO treatment was just about 500Kms old, the greenish color in the oil was well retained and was almost equivalent to a fresh oil, also Oil filter was replaced while changing the engine oil.

            Also I applied the oil in both the bike's exactly the same way as mentioned in the brochure. I.e., applied in cold temperature and then idle the engine for 15mins.
            the oil has turned brown, thats good news ,
            that mean the gtoil is removing the carbon in the engine
            relax, nothing to worry
            rgds paul

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            • #21
              Originally posted by paulsonaivy View Post
              well abt clutch slip,
              the gtoil only works on metal where there is friction and heat,
              due to friction the gtoil forms a coating like a magnetic film
              Originally posted by Noor View Post
              OTG's GTOIL(ElectroMagnetic Fluid) is the only advanced technology lubricant additive in the world that is extracted purely from specially selected plant derived organic materials and resins, through the special process, to form a super lubricant additive with unique electromagnetic properties that produce an 'AIR FILM MAGNET' which results in an almost ZERO FRICTION COEFFICIENT between operating mechanical parts,that then work far more efficiently and economical in their operation.

              GTOil SuperLube is simply added to any operating mechanical system to reach all areas of resistance (that cause friction) to enhance their mechanical efficiency. The addition of this causes an engine, machine or equipment to run far more efficiently.

              The World first ORGANIC (chemical free) and the worlds best engine oil additive,for all four stroke engines petrol, diesel, lpg, cng,alcohol,propane, and yes specially for hydrogen engines.

              ************************************************** ***********

              xBhpians, has anyone tried the worlds first ORGANIC (chemical free) engine oil. Please use this thread to share your experience with GT oil.

              If it is chemical free, then how can it form a coating like a magnetic film?
              @Noor, what is the relation between being organic and chemical free?

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              • #22
                @ paulsonaivy

                But Sir,

                In my bike with the same Motul FS Oil, I have treated 50Ml this Sunday and up until now I have done 250Kms.

                I see no change, honestly I feel the engine is a little bit stressed than before.

                On contrast my Friends R15 got amazing results well within 100Kms of Ride.

                Is there any time frame for the oil to get to work or something????

                Being very frank I feel my bike was doing better with the stock oil.

                PS: Today morning I checked my oil too, it is also brown in color. But while treatment, I observed the oil condition the greenish tone was well present.



                Also Sir,

                I have one other doubt, the GTO brochure says its 100% Synthetic and you say its pure Organic?
                Last edited by HarishK; 01-17-2012, 11:43 PM.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by HarishK View Post
                  @ paulsonaivy

                  But Sir,

                  In my bike with the same Motul FS Oil, I have treated 50Ml this Sunday and up until now I have done 250Kms.

                  I see no change, honestly I feel the engine is a little bit stressed than before.

                  On contrast my Friends R15 got amazing results well within 100Kms of Ride.

                  Is there any time frame for the oil to get to work or something????

                  Being very frank I feel my bike was doing better with the stock oil.

                  PS: Today morning I checked my oil too, it is also brown in color. But while treatment, I observed the oil condition the greenish tone was well present.



                  Also Sir,

                  I have one other doubt, the GTO brochure says its 100% Synthetic and you say its pure Organic?
                  in the broucher its a mis print,
                  have u treated ur engine with any other additive bfore,
                  pls let me know
                  if no, then dont worry,how much kms has ur bike done,
                  rgds paul

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by sunny_ View Post
                    If it is chemical free, then how can it form a coating like a magnetic film?
                    @Noor, what is the relation between being organic and chemical free?
                    organic mean non synthetic,not man made,like fertilizer,chemicals etc

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by paulsonaivy View Post
                      in the broucher its a mis print,
                      have u treated ur engine with any other additive bfore,
                      pls let me know
                      if no, then dont worry,how much kms has ur bike done,
                      rgds paul

                      No I have not treated with any addictives before, its pure stock Motul FS 15W50 Oil. As of this moment I have done 310Kms after GTO treatment.

                      No significant improvement as we witnessed with my Friend's bike. Honestly I would say the bike is little more stressed while accelerating .


                      We have the entire 250ML GTO pack, but afraid to treat more, coz the oil level in my bike is already upto brim, so not sure if it may cause any leaks so we restricted the treatment to 50ML of GTO alone.


                      But as of now, There are no oil leakages anywhere, Oil level stays at the same spot.

                      Also,

                      1) Is this GTO a solvent to the Engine oil? or will act independently?
                      2) What is GTF, is it a Solvent? and is it any good to a 150CC Bike? (With 1litre Oil capacity)
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by paulsonaivy View Post
                        well abt clutch slip,
                        the gtoil only works on metal where there is friction and heat,
                        due to friction the gtoil forms a coating like a magnetic film ,due to which the friction is reduced and increases in milage

                        pls go through the testimonials properly,u say there is just one tesimonial, were as there are more then 8 to 10 testimonias in it

                        pls read the FAQs properly,

                        if u have treated the engine with chemical based addititve ,u need to flush the engine properly,
                        then treat it with gtoil,
                        pls dont use bardahl, u r spoiling ur engine, if u dont use bardahl,the engine will start to make sound and need to overhaul ur engine sooner
                        so pls be carefull,it only form a teflone based coating ,which is nothing but plastic (in lay mans terms)and melts at high temp.and then blocks oil passage, so pls be carfull,
                        1) so, do you mean to say it DOES NOT act on clutch plates ?

                        2) a negative view about bardahl, this is the first time i have heard it.

                        3) i expected a proper reply from your end, that would have cleared things a bit more, but since you choose not to reply to my each point, it is difficult to trust you. anyway, let it be, i will not drag it further.



                        Originally posted by paulsonaivy View Post
                        the oil level has come down a little bit bcos all hydrocarbon oil tend to evaporate when heated,
                        thats the only reason the oil level drops and not bcos of burning
                        so that means oil will evoporate as we use the bike, so how is it going to last 10,000 kms, i guess that is what is claimed with the use of GToil.

                        Originally posted by paulsonaivy View Post
                        the oil has turned brown, thats good news ,
                        that mean the gtoil is removing the carbon in the engine
                        relax, nothing to worry
                        rgds paul
                        so that carbon will keep on circulating in all engine parts, since you don't recomend oil change soon enough.
                        Last edited by princesirohi; 01-18-2012, 02:30 PM.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
                          1) so, do you mean to say it DOES NOT act on clutch plates ?

                          2) a negative view about bardahl, this is the first time i have heard it.

                          3) i expected a proper reply from your end, that would have cleared things a bit more, but since you choose not to reply to my each point, it is difficult to trust you. anyway, let it be, i will not drag it further.





                          so that means oil will evoporate as we use the bike, so how is it going to last 10,000 kms, i guess that is what is claimed with the use of GToil.



                          so that carbon will keep on circulating in all engine parts, since you don't recomend oil change soon enough.
                          hello friend,
                          its not only bcos of using gtoil the oil is circulaed with the carbon, even if u dont use gtoil carbon is circulated with the engine oil,
                          the gtoil has got properties where it treats the carbon and melts it to oil again,
                          that is the reason the engine treated with gtoil has not much effect on oil levels reducing,
                          yes but there is still drop in oil level bcos ur using only little of gtoil,since all hydrocarbon oils tent to evaporate
                          but is reduced bcos of gtoil
                          sorry to say that you have heard it for the first time, but since i am in this automobile line since years ,i have heard this years before
                          Last edited by paulsonaivy; 01-18-2012, 06:47 PM.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by paulsonaivy View Post
                            hello friend,
                            its not only bcos of using gtoil the oil is circulaed with the carbon, even if u dont use gtoil carbon is circulated with the engine oil,
                            the gtoil has got properties where it treats the carbon and melts it to oil again,WHAT !!! gtoil melts carbon to oil again
                            that is the reason the engine treated with gtoil has not much effect on oil levels reducing,you mean to say, even if engine oil level keeps on decreasing, it will not have any detrimental effect on engine ??
                            yes but there is still drop in oil level bcos ur using only little of gtoil,since all hydrocarbon oils tent to evaporate so how much gtoil is required for everything to be fine?
                            but is reduced bcos of gtoil
                            sorry to say that you have heard it for the first time, but since i am in this automobile line since years ,i have heard this years before
                            thanx for the info about bardahl, will ask some experts.
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                            • #29
                              Guys, i have an idea..
                              *Lets spare/source a (stock) bike
                              *fill it with ONLY GTO oil instead of mixing with engine oil
                              *abuse it for 10k or 20k kms
                              every thing will get proven..
                              What say?
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                              • #30
                                Got my GTOil pouch today. Will add it ASAP & post the updates here.
                                Originally posted by Honda_CBF View Post
                                Guys, i have an idea..
                                *Lets spare/source a (stock) bike
                                *fill it with ONLY GTO oil instead of mixing with engine oil
                                *abuse it for 10k or 20k kms
                                every thing will get proven..
                                What say?
                                Yeah sure. How about using your CBF ??
                                NOT BEEN THERE NOT DONE THAT

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