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Petrol+Ethanol good idea?
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I tried it all with my old bike caliber 115. boric acid in oil, acetone in petrol etc. For some days I would 'feel' the difference, but now I think it was mostly imaginary. Besides one fine day bike started soundlng rumbling in the engine, and could never spot why it happened. Now I am VERY wary of adding anything to bike's blood and food i.e. oil and petrol. For increase of 5KMPL, I would either ride slowly or put 10% more air in tires rather than adding any new stuff.
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that's why I'm doing all this experiments with busted or gonna be busted bikes...Originally posted by animeher View PostI tried it all with my old bike caliber 115. boric acid in oil, acetone in petrol etc. For some days I would 'feel' the difference, but now I think it was mostly imaginary. Besides one fine day bike started soundlng rumbling in the engine, and could never spot why it happened. Now I am VERY wary of adding anything to bike's blood and food i.e. oil and petrol. For increase of 5KMPL, I would either ride slowly or put 10% more air in tires rather than adding any new stuff.
Just to postpone engine rebuild..
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The test bike is having severe cold start problem. She already had it but this morning it was warm up exercise for the owner, more than 5-6 kicks were needed.
Can't say its because of cold or the (home made)additives.
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Back after a long time...
Had tried it on my current ride - P220, with, in my opinion, very good results.
Rode for about 6000 kms on one change of engine oil - which was when I added the boric. Changed the oil (there was still some life left in it) and then went on a 3000+ kms trip to Kerala and back.
Since it was more than 15000 kms since my last service, got my engine flushed.
Will be repeating the treatment at the next oil change.
Didn't find much difference in the mileage though the oil seemed to last longer and the bike rode smoother. The bike is now 1 year and 28500 kms old.

Edit: I know it's OT but had to post it
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Adding alcohol(ethanol) in petrol basically increases it's octane value. But the calorific value of alcohol is very less as compared to petrol (I guess just 1/3rd of petrol). So mixture will give less power. And plus more octane value means the compression ratio of the engine should also be high, right?
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^^ may be that's why we are facing cold starts & low pick up (untill the engine is warm; read hot)
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Guys, shifted back to pure petrol.
Bike's fine & seems unchanged, no smoothness, power gained (can't comment on FE).
With ethanol+Boric acid + petrol, pickup, mileage was reduced. Bike used to hesitate below 2.5k rpm.
We changed its idle rpm to 1800rpm for dealing with all this.
Yesterday got its fueling system cleaned (just for peace of mind) & was happy to see no sediments of anything. Engine intake had very fine coating of boric acid.. No carbon was there. I guess we have done its decabonisation!
Also, bike used to throw carbon with its exhaust.. Checked it by putting hand on the exhaust stream behind the silencer (around 4 inches) at 4-5k rpm.
Now the bike is running little cooler (as expected) thinking of slightly lean turning it.
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Ateesh bhai, read through the 4 pages today. So what was the end result? Is that Hunk still running today?
If this mix reduced performance, then with similar plans of the govt, aren't we doomed?
[Read doomed as in poor performance as well as more SVC visits]Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!
Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0
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bike's gathering dust from last 6 months. Because of an accident. Bike was running ok till then. i used to feel some loss of power.. I complaint about that & the Owner was all affirmative and he asked for some juggad.. I told him about 2t, ethanol, boric acid, acetone, system g, engine oils and what not. And we started from cheaper things.. . . At the end, we were not able to increase the power. Though, some things helped with smoother and efficient running but acetone and ethanol were worst of them. In short yes we were doomed, at least with current gen bike.Originally posted by Divya Sharan View PostAteesh bhai, read through the 4 pages today. So what was the end result? Is that Hunk still running today?If this mix reduced performance, then with similar plans of the govt, aren't we doomed?[Read doomed as in poor performance as well as more SVC visits]
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Originally posted by Honda_CBF View Postbike's gathering dust from last 6 months. Because of an accident. Bike was running ok till then. i used to feel some loss of power.. I complaint about that & the Owner was all affirmative and he asked for some juggad.. I told him about 2t, ethanol, boric acid, acetone, system g, engine oils and what not. And we started from cheaper things.. . . At the end, we were not able to increase the power. Though, some things helped with smoother and efficient running but acetone and ethanol were worst of them. In short yes we were doomed, at least with current gen bike.
While you guys would worry for the carb and the pipes; I fear most for the FI, especially the injector!Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!
Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0
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Check your owners manual, my 2001 alto is ready for 5% ethanol and 2% methanol. But manual does says that, with these fuels car may run poorly, may face poor FE and I think it also says about cold starts..
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