@Argee
I own a GT650 Naked.Oh yes , I love the Faired Bikes Too.
On a particular day i rode FZ1, R1, r15 and the GT650 all back to back.

Different Cc , different leagues.But the Same Feel.

Why would i go for a Naked?
The R1 and the Fz1 Share the same cc , But its not all about speed , its about the Power delivery and How It gets there .

The FZ1 is the Most FUn bike Out there , So is the MT01.
WHy , U reach Speeds with the least amount of effort of the bike , Least physical strain ,
friendly riding posture
And All of them have Very much bearable wind blast till 160/170.
Nothing that throws u off the bike .
I managed a 215 kmph on the GT650 naked , and the other guy managed a 250 kmph on the Fz1.So the windblast is Not an reason to Reject a Naked.

You will never feel ur thighs or legs getting fried with the heat .
The nakeds heat up a lot lesser compared to the Faired siblings.
And the Cooling is more efficient with the added Air cooling , also the heat dissipation happens in all Directions and Not "directed" like in a faired.
The Power is produced way lesser and Lower down the RPM range so the wait in the city or on highway , to get to a certain speed is a lot easier. This is what is the Usable power.(Yes it may have 150 odd bhp , but in reality in city and highway u hardly use 70-90 bhp).

The Nakeds Dont handle bettter than the Faired by any means , just beacuse the position is upright , its less strainious on the shoulder and wrists.

The Position of the Faired bike , Puts u in control of the bike and inspires confidence a lot more than the Nakeds easy position.
A litre class Naked Gives u the Most kicks than Any Faired Bike can Give , Its Not always the Speed Factor , Its how much fun u have Getting till there (thats my personal Opinion) .
The feeling of the Front end lifting off on the Naked Is a lot more Fun , Lifts at a lower rpm and also with the lighter front.
Also you get the sense of "true" speed on the Naked with the wind hitting u on ur chest ,
Which is solely missed on the R1 and the R15 .
A 130 on the R15 or a 200 on the R1 , U will never realise the speed until u look at the speedo.
Thats not the case with the nakeds , U Know it when your Going Fast... And Lets you know To let go of the throttle keeping you aware .
You get carried away with the speeds on the Faired , You never realise how Fast you are with the minimized wind blast and The Confidence.
The Busa is even worse , The endless power in each gear makes U feel like a Superman and think that u can push it even more .

Santa

Santoosh - This forum doesn't allow to rate individual posts, otherwise, yours will be the post to get 6/5 Absolutely brilliant points that gave me some thoughts.

Hmm...quite a thought; but you guys were crouching right? May not be as much as you lean forward with a faired ride, but, still its close to the same position on higher speeds right?

You mean, nakeds have more torque? I didn't think from that perspective.

Above 2 points...this is exactly what I was trying to understand; why does one need to feel the need for speed? Is that a personal choice? May be

So do I take that, besides personal choice + Yours + NitroSatya + men_in_jeans points, Faired is hard on non high speed riding while the opposite is true with naked? So that's probably a distinguished character of both these bikes?

Love for the Nakeds


Yes , Thats True , The faster you go on a faired bike , The feeling of the weight Goes off , Its flickable at any speed and is planted on the Road.
Less effort to be in Control

Above 2 points...this is exactly what I was trying to understand; why does one need to feel the need for speed? Is that a personal choice? May be :confused
Different ages , Different needs , Different perspectives, so its all personal Choices.

You mean, nakeds have more torque? I didn't think from that perspective
NOt in terms of Figures , the R1 has more Torque than the FZ1 , but the Torque Curve to reach the Peak is different.The FZ1 reaches there much faster , than the R1.
Best example for u is the N250 and CBR250

Hmm...quite a thought; but you guys were crouching right? May not be as much as you lean forward with a faired ride, but, still its close to the same position on higher speeds right?
The Leaning forward and Crouching is inevitable., Another pointer , when there is headwind the nakeds struggle to do 170/180 , But the Faired Guy hardly realises the Loss . Still will be able to do almost similar speeds .

Santoosh - This forum doesn't allow to rate individual posts, otherwise, yours will be the post to get 6/5 Absolutely brilliant points that gave me some thoughts.
Thx U thx u :-)


Santa

Sure the leaning posture has. But since you mentioned city, the speed we are talking is much lesser compared to highways making the upright stance more than enough for the efficient brakes the bike supposed to have.

You are right. But how many of the SBK owners have reached the top-speed of their litre class faired bikes in India? If you take that into account then you'll know that even a faired liter class is way above what is required in India. But then why we have faired 1000's here is because of the way it reaches those speeds/thrills it can provide/passion/sometimes posers etc depends on requirements. That is the similar reason why naked also are present. One of our member from xbhp have touched 215kmph in his GT650N before he had to slow down. Similarly anyone with naked would have done that without minding windblasts for sure depending on the interest and control they have. That too especially for people more inclined to city riding(like say once a month highway ride) and the looks of naked bikes.

+1. Riding a faired 1000 in city is difficult than riding a yamaha fz 16 in city. So you are good with actually buying a fz16 than a litre naked. But why take the difficulty of riding a 1000 is because you need it. So when you really need it, then the difficulties comes with it doesnt matter to you. That is the same reason that goes with faired over naked. When you really need a faired bike, no matter city traffic or back pain or anything else you will still go for it and will enjoy everything it gives and everything becomes practical. So there is nothing best and worst. It depends on the way you see it.

Edit: I missed the last 3 posts before replying. @santoosh actually I was referring you in the post

i dont have any experience on any kind of sportsbike what so ever but am currently in the savings mode for fz1....

once my fiance asked me why i wanted a 1000c.c. bike and arent there any smaller options available which looks the same?? she said anyways you are not going to use that much power in the future then why do you want that bike/??

my answer to her was may be i will not be able to use that much power and to me frankly speaking something like 60-70bhps will be more than enough for touring, may be the windblast will not allow me to go above 130-140... (have touched 126 on my fz-16 as of now)..... but to me its the charm of owning the liter class, as of now i know this thinking is considered to be that of an amateur rider but that is how i think...

then again the question arises why fz1 and why not the r1? my answer was related to my riding style and what i prefer i.e. long tours against tracks plus i may be may not be able to use it daily but right now i want to use it as and when i travel may be a commute to my office or on tour without the hassles of petrol or the wrist and back pain because of the aggressive sitting posture of the supersports.

once again the question arises will i buy a fazer 1? the answer is probably not. because though it has the benefits of the fairing but still its the naked looks that drives me. it also comes with being "more practical and economical" in case of city riding and stupid spill overs etc.

i have no idea where i have started and where i am ending it but "bhavnaon ko samjho yaara"

This is exactly what I wanted to hear from a person who has tried all this. Thanks a lot

Fairing plays a huge role when you are doing speeds great than 150- 160 or so and when you want to pinch out a few extra KMPH in a race,basically a fairing helps max out the engines potential with the best aerodynamics.
it also helps deviate a lot of wind off your chest & head while touring.i wasn't bothered about the wind blasts while slightly crouched doing 200KMPH on a Beamer.

Street bikes dont need the above mentioned advantages and they have to be easy on the pocket in a fall.

Lesser weight, more flexibility in traffic due to lesser space (even R15 owners should agree with this), lesser initial & accident recovery costs, a certain appeal in seeing fat naked engines, etc, etc.


Now, coming to the point: Why do we need Litre class bikes that are naked? I mean, if a bike is not comfortable above 140 kmph, why make them without fairings?

A common answer is that these litre class bikes don't need high speeds to cruise. Even 50-60 kmph is manageable in the top cog mostly.

And in details, the answer is very much different from company to company.

If you ask Honda for the reason behind CB1000R being naked, their answer will ooze every bit of sense: They made the bike for city level acceleration. The bike makes 125~bhp which makes it somewhat low end focussed. Plus, its undergeared nature means that it doesn't exceed 225 kmph or so. And it does a 0-100 kmph in under 3 seconds.
Which means the focus is clear: using the bike for city/ crowded reasons & 0-60 and 0-100 kmph drags, etc. And it finds its customers, because its a comparatively unique spec'ed bike...

Kawasaki had somewhat similar focus on the Z1000: Beat them at acceleration. Make it an allrounder bike, focused more at acceleration though. Make it alien like (because nobody purchases the common stuff nowadays) and it shall do the job of selling itself.

If you ask Yamaha, their answer would be psychological appeal in being fast. People love the R1 but not everyone has money to buy the latest re-engineered bike. They need something that is "timelessly fast". Because, Speed has appeal no doubt. Hence, Fz1 being quite fast, and at the same time less regularly updated keeping costs down.

Also, Kawasaki and Yamaha can justify having a naked version, because they also have faired versions of these bikes... So, the customer may get his type, accord. to his taste/ usage. And producing 2 variants of the same bike is easier due to common parts.

Great information

Naked BEAST !!!!!

If i had money i would had got Honda CB1000r Or Ducati Monster \m/