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**hunkofgals** · 05-03-2012, 09:56 PM

can anyone say me what is blipping ?

**Samarth 619** · 05-04-2012, 10:36 PM

Originally posted by hunkofgals View Post

can anyone say me what is blipping ?

It is quick-increasing the throttle and raising the rpm, when you're down-shifting gears (like from 3rd to 2nd gear) without using the clutch lever.

You can upshift a bike's gear (like 3rd-4th) safely without using clutch if you have the practice. But for downshifting, it is strongly advisable to blip the throttle before doing so.

Practice makes a clutchless shift perfect.

**hunkofgals** · 05-05-2012, 12:54 AM

Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post

It is quick-increasing the throttle and raising the rpm, when you're down-shifting gears (like from 3rd to 2nd gear) without using the clutch lever.

You can upshift a bike's gear (like 3rd-4th) safely without using clutch if you have the practice. But for downshifting, it is strongly advisable to blip the throttle before doing so.

Practice makes a clutchless shift perfect.

so blipping means no use of clutch and we need to accelerate more while downshifting ?
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but whats the use of doing so ?

**abhimanyu31** · 05-05-2012, 01:27 AM

^^^ the description is not accurate... In fact the primary purpose of blipping is nothing to do with clutchless shifting... Blipping is equivalent to a technique used in performance car driving - 'heel & toe'... The sole purpose of this technique is to allow you to downshift with seamless smoothness eliminating the back torque effect that downshifting produces (the so called engine breaking effect). The back torque effect has the effect of upsetting the balance of the bike while it is entering into a turn... Its purpose is to match the speed of the engine with the speed of the rear wheel....

**hunkofgals** · 05-05-2012, 12:50 PM

^ ^
understood little little
il try this today
im new to geared bike , and i recently purchased duke and im learning on it
so im new to all these
.
all say duke has got most efficient engine braking
but how to do engine braking ?
if im in 60 at 5th gear
and if i come to 4th and 3rd the bike acceleration very slowly ,and i do it while holding clutch ! so do we need to hold the clutch or not for engine braking and efficient slow down of the bike ?

**abhimanyu31** · 05-05-2012, 01:05 PM

^^^ be careful when you start trying to blip... It is a acquired skill... You will require patience, analytical & application skills... But the effort is worth it.... Here is a link for you to do more homework before you begin http://www.sportrider.com/ride/rss/1...tle/index.html

**Abhijeet Bhattacharjee** · 05-05-2012, 01:26 PM

Originally posted by hunkofgals View Post

so do we need to hold the clutch or not for engine braking and efficient slow down of the bike ?

say you're travelling at 60kmph in 5th gear @ 6k RPM, you close the throttle all the way without holding the clutch & the revs start dropping... Now say at 4k RPM you engage clutch, blip & downshift to 4th (you'll see the revs shoot up to say 5k RPM).... That's the basic of engine braking, it can reduce braking distances at high speeds.. Very useful thing.

**hunkofgals** · 05-05-2012, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by abhimanyu31 View Post

^^^ be careful when you start trying to blip... It is a acquired skill... You will require patience, analytical & application skills... But the effort is worth it.... Here is a link for you to do more homework before you begin Motorcycle Riding Techniques - Downshifting &"Blipping" the Throttle - Sport Rider

il try it today with patience as uve mentioned and post my experience doing it

Originally posted by Abhijeet Bhattacharjee View Post

say you're travelling at 60kmph in 5th gear @ 6k RPM, you close the throttle all the way without holding the clutch & the revs start dropping... Now say at 4k RPM you engage clutch, blip & downshift to 4th (you'll see the revs shoot up to say 5k RPM).... That's the basic of engine braking, it can reduce braking distances at high speeds.. Very useful thing.

thanks a lot bro , il try this and see how does engine braking works

**skantsoni** · 05-06-2012, 06:06 PM

il try this and see how does engine braking works

dude dont blame me if you highside while trying this

@abhimanyu31: your description of blipping is quite accurate.

for all those who want to see this in action look at the motoGP guys or anyone who does track racing. from what i know this works best when u have high reving engines like I4. in out desi bikes it may be difficult and risky. ( all respect to those who have mastered it on the desis

)

i kinda gave up on blipping on enfield because 1, its not a high revving engine and you should use it only while u r till 4th gear and 2, the false neutrals, nothing to do with technique, is kinda common and makes it quite risky.

well i am still waiting for some bulleteer to comment, anyone listening??

**ashwinprakas** · 05-06-2012, 07:18 PM

Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post

Guys, can anyone simultaneously use the front brake and downshift using the clutch at the same time, to get the best braking?

Yeah during panic braking, I use the front brake simultaneously while blipping and downshifting, its become a habit.

**skantsoni** · 05-07-2012, 09:24 PM

for all those who want to see this in action look at the motoGP guys or anyone who does track racing

to correct myself, all the new (i do think all of them) have slipper clutch, so they probably dont need to blip. infact the Ducati's street models also have slippers. though i am not sure of 795/6 because only in one review somewhere i read that the 796 has a slipper, but i dont see it in the specs on their site (or maybe i dont understand some jargon that they use

)

**abhimanyu31** · 05-08-2012, 01:50 AM

^^^ you are right to a certain extent. You are right as far as motogp bikes are concerned. However its not just due to the slipper clutch, it's also due to the electronics. While slipper clutch helps reduce the back torque, it does not eliminate it. To see its effect just look at Moto2 & Moto3 bikes where use of electronics is either limited or is single ECU rule based. You will see those guys still blipping considerably.

The reason slipper clutch came to street bikes is simple: an exponential increase in power due to increased compression on the big bikes. This in turn makes for some nasty back torque effect if the downshift is not executed in a proper & smooth manner. Slipper clutches while reducing back torque but will not eliminate it. Therefore blipping is still a valid & useful skill & will remain so for a long long time.

**skantsoni** · 05-08-2012, 09:22 PM

abhi (if i can call u that

), yes i saw the racer blipping just before losing traction and falling with a low-side in last week's qualifiers of motoGP.
but what i have read so far about slippers is all of them say that if there are slippers you dont need to blip including on track. ya some of those aftermarket ones dont work so well.
My mechanical knowledge is limited to what i read

so i could be wrong.

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