Re: Rumors of bikes being banned on noida expressway

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Good move! Some bikers and drivers move on the road recklessly. Education is needed first!
We can't cry foul because the rule came courtesy some reckless people.

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There are more reckless bike maniacs and retards moving on 2 wheels in common commuter roads and city roads.
Then should these roads be banned.
This suggestion doesn't proves out to be any beneficial. And moreover on expressways their are accidents of >4 wheelers also. Thing is, increasing number of bike accidents(may or may not be correct data) always alarms the governing authority to act against the bikes and bikers but their isn't any concrete implementation of ways and means by which numbers can be pulled down.
If this is the practice followed then none of the roads will be allowed for any biker.

Agreed education should be provided that too in correct and qualitative form.
But again by hindering, or banning something will have repulsive aggression and instead of learning tendency their would be chances of opposing everything.
Afterall human mentality and tendency.

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You got me wrong here!
Take Worli-Sealink road (Mumbai) for example. 2 wheelers were never allowed there. 4 wheelers still move like crazy, but a 2 wheeler is essentially open to all outside elements and hence a rider is more prone to fatal injury on a 2 wheeler than a 4 wheeler. Also, a 2 wheeler takes longer to brake than a 4 wheeler (cars only) under emergency situations.
The agenda should be to ban 2 wheelers for sometime while you implement something to improve governance on the expressway. Meanwhile education must continue and the road can be re-opened for all once there are reduction in accidents and improvement in the Indian mentality. We lack the concept of 'pehle aap' on roads.

Nobody cares a dime if his actions on roads may translate into despair for others.
Leave Yamuna Expressway, take our city roads. Let's even leave speeding. Let's discuss commuting. In Chennai, a 11 month infant was crushed by a bus from behind since the 2 wheeler was on the right lane throughout and braked suddenly, got hit and baby perished (held in mother's arms). We see people seating their kids on the tank.
Reason given - Can't afford a car! Then why not rely on public transport? Why does everyone have to keep someone's life on stake to save themselves some time or effort?

Education doesn't only mean speed limits and lane discipline, it means the general mentality w.r.t safety as well. Nobody cares, meh!

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This road was made only for >=4 wheelers.
Rather do check why Mumbai-Pune and Baroda-Ahmedabad expressway has been made which is again not made for 2 wheelers.
These roads are started only without a permission for 4 wheelers. So yes comparison is way different from the former post.


As mentioned again expressways for bigger vehicles are made for heavy fast moving traffic and not as per the classification you are providing. Your classificication is wrong, these roads are devoid from smaller moving vehicles just because of their size and because of their counterparts load, sized and speed. Accidents happen with bigger vehicles and they are much dreadful. Your comparison is just like a trial to tie the knot between opposite ends.

Both of your statements are contradictory to each other. At one side you are asking for banning and other side you are trying to teach and educate.
When a kid goes to school. Is he taught something new or is made deprived of something and then told that no betta ye aise nahi hota, balki aise hota hai.
Cmon man, making people devoid of something available and then trying to teach will always have negative effects.
And more over it again adds up that, system and implementation of laws and rules and proceses should be put in such a manner that things are fluent for anyone irrespective of size and count of wheels.

See again you are trying to connect to opposite end points.
Moreover people have to be educated how to blend traffic sense and moral sense together. Not by giving emphasis on one at a time. And moreover Giving an example of capability to have a car or not is just out of context example. Having a vehicle and then getting access to premium roads or basic roads and using a bigger part of road is just in own hands and then how to use it. One should not be classified what vehicle to posses and how to use them. So stating usage of public transport is just of context example in this topic. And lastly just tell me "WILL YOU LEAVE RIDING JUST IN ORDER tO LEARN RIDING MORE SMARTLY"???
Now dont be in hurry to answer that by having more and more accidents only we will learn and this is experience.

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Well, going by my way of thinking and your replies, I only feel it would aggravate the topic since I don't know how to explain myself here. Yamuna-Agra road is an expressway and not a highway. Riders and drivers see the well laid roads and rip their machines. With such madness, the smallest and weakest machine becomes a traumatized victim, i.e., a 2 wheeler in this case.

Rest, I guess we should agree to disagree! As of now, I don't think its a bad decision. It should be taken as a deterrent to avoid similar incidents in future, something similar to traffic fines and licence cancellation.

I'd rather not ride if a certain road is known for bad drivers/riders and has a high accident rate. I'm always willing to take a longer route which is safer. Though there are no "safe" roads in India because you have morons in all forms omnipresent, but I choose to rather take decisions for my safety.

P.S - One need not always meet an accident to learn stuff, that's usually the last form of learning.
Anticipation and counter action (if needed) is the key to riding any vehicle anywhere in the world, just more pronounced in India, mid West and other Asian countries.

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More bad news for India. Not that i am on a bike forum, i am saying this. But in general, looking at the Indian general mentality, people are more inclined and more comfortable using two wheelers than using 4, money factor hence coming into picture. Although I agree to this fact that 2 wheelers are more prone to accidents on a highway/expressway, that being said, banning 2 wheelers from an expressway does not solve the problem country has. What government needs to initiate is to organize more and more campaigns on the roads about two wheeler safety and to make people aware of the rules you need to follow when on highway/city roads/expressways.

When there is an accident and a two wheeler is involved, people blindly point to the two wheeler saying that it was the fault of that person and not the 4 wheelers or trucks. I saw the example which [MENTION=41586]Divya Sharan[/MENTION] stated in the above post and I am not in agreement to that perception which is being carried forward. A truck is supposed to loiter in a street with both eyes wide open and not eyes closed. However, that was not the case and the blame was completely but on the rider. There are numerous examples like this in India where car accidents were fatal and claimed lives. It is an Indian mentality that when one owns a car, he starts disrespecting pedestrians and 2 wheelers (complete wrong mind set we Indians have).

Do you guys know that later last year, a law has been put forward in Kolkata that cycles are banned from the streets! Reason: more accidents to the cyclists. How do you justify that? Do you feel it is the right move by the government? No, never! Cycle is environment friendly and the most people pefer to use cycle in a crowded city like Kolkata.

Bottom line, a bad move by the government to ban bikers from Noida expressway and I hope things turn around faster.

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Well it quietly concludes that you don't want to accept te real point even though realising what I want to say and you have said it in your words
Still would say banishing people from a resource and then teaching them how to use is not a solution.
Rest all examples of differences between highway riding and express way riding and use of public transport are just a rocket science to this point.
Moreover education should be from earlier age, tender age of learning. Rules and regulations at times of giving license and purchasing vehicles.
These are best examples.
And I mentioned don't be in a hurry still your PS
Guess you didn't get that point.

Taming anticipation and curiosity only will help in learning how to ride better.
Counter action is never a gain. As Newton correctly said every action has equal and opposite reaction.


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[MENTION=61921]SuvraGanguly[/MENTION] dada Ek number example[awesome example]

This again raises is banning cyclists helping cyclists??? No
Rather I also got same news and thus there was agitation against this rule.


So banning won't help in anyway.
Awareness and education should be not emphasized.
Education also included coining and implementing ways and means how dedicated roads, paths or some lesser restricted roads can be used by cyclists for safe transit.

Lol we always try to compare from foreign mainlands, why don't we learn from them, which includes everything as traffic sense, road sense, implementation system and also moral sense.


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Saquib as well as dada, FYI, the truck driver in my example was arrested.
Again, in India, it's always the bigger vehicle that's claimed to be at fault. Perhaps you both aren't willing to understand at all what my POV is, hence continuing on the same is futile for me.

And Saquib, regarding your bachcha wala example, you do banish them from having too many chocolates if they don't listen, don't you?

I only agree with one point of yours, what's about to happen for 2 wheelers is sad.
Not necessarily bad!

Anyways, continue with your rants guys!

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I think it can not be for Noida Expressway, It can only be for Yamuna Expressway...

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Yes, that's what I've been talking right from start. My ex roomie was warned on Yamuna expressway, not Noida expressway. Maybe, travel to Agra from Delhi would take more time, again.

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Do you ever accept anyone elses point???
And do you even rest from keeping your case even though if so called points are no more related to OP???

And yes your never ending ARGUEMENTS without head and tail is not making sense.
You have problem with people driving riding walking cycling everything.
Rather have problem with humans I guess.

Children are never banished from chocolates, they are taught excess of chocolates is not good and thus they are made calm by giving lesser no of choclates, or promised to have limited but daily or in regular intervals.
Now you will have problem with this approach also because as observed you have got points against human activities. Sigh.

Guess you got a problem to relate any point with any other point even though they dont have any relation head to toe.

And Yes regarding the ranting session then sigh cant help, we are used to your BLABBERING.

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Keep your responses and choice of words in check mate! Everyone has got only this much patience!
P.S - I was banished chocolates due to my excessive habit of them.

Also, keep the words in CAPS in check.