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  • #31
    Re: Matador for the Bike: Options and Alternatives

    Originally posted by Adoksh View Post
    Yup. Winger is looking like a good option. If I don't get a good matador or if it looks like I'll be spending a lot on the matador I'll just pick up the Winger from a used car store and remove the back seats.
    Since you are fixed on a tempo .... here are some good reads for you

    Tempo (Force) Traveller drivability - Team-BHP

    A Modified Tempo Traveller - Page 2 - Team-BHP

    The second link talks about people who modify these things.

    Procedure for converting commercial vehicles to private vehicles - Page 2 - Team-BHP

    This is specific for your purpose
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    • #32
      Re: Matador for the Bike: Options and Alternatives

      Originally posted by Naveen Vajja View Post
      Since you are fixed on a tempo .... here are some good reads for you

      Tempo (Force) Traveller drivability - Team-BHP

      A Modified Tempo Traveller - Page 2 - Team-BHP

      The second link talks about people who modify these things.

      Procedure for converting commercial vehicles to private vehicles - Page 2 - Team-BHP

      This is specific for your purpose
      Brilliant! Thanks for this! Will read these and get back Thanks all!
      Every Motorcycle has a tale to be told and there is no greater privilage in the life of a rider than to have truly understood what his Motorcycle stands to tell. Some of the greatest stories in the world are not written, they are experienced.

      One of the many reasons they say, "Four Wheels Move the Body, Two Wheels Move the Soul"

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      • #33
        Re: Matador for the Bike: Options and Alternatives

        Originally posted by Adoksh View Post
        Yup. Winger is looking like a good option. If I don't get a good matador or if it looks like I'll be spending a lot on the matador I'll just pick up the Winger from a used car store and remove the back seats.
        I strongly suggest dropping the idea of Matador fully and look for other alternatives. One reason being most of them would be vintage and prone to fail. Most roadside guys are reluctant repair them and so availability of spares. Second being, not at all a highway friendly thing. Hard to keep above 60s and brakes re of bygone era and should have to be lucky enough to save the cargo in panic situation. Last reason, though the engine is a Merc derived bullet proof one, the mechanicals are not. Front axle-drive shaft was prone to breakage (Most days we were late for school ) and engine overheating thanks to cooling system. Later they developed an improved rear-wheel drive version Matador pickup, which failed miserably, being killed by 407 and it never made into the Matador van.
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        • #34
          Re: Matador for the Bike: Options and Alternatives

          Wow. Thanks! I'm probably going to ditch the matador idea and look for a cheap Tata Winger, unless the matador I find is extremely cheap and in an extremely good condition
          Every Motorcycle has a tale to be told and there is no greater privilage in the life of a rider than to have truly understood what his Motorcycle stands to tell. Some of the greatest stories in the world are not written, they are experienced.

          One of the many reasons they say, "Four Wheels Move the Body, Two Wheels Move the Soul"

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          • #35
            Re: Matador for the Bike: Options and Alternatives

            Well if you are willing to put time n effort in converting a winger why not put the same in a Tata xenon soft top? Here you save the issue of commercial vehicle thing and a making ur own soft top will give you customizing freedom. Add to that you still get 4 seating. So track day can be a friends/ family affair too.
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            • #36
              Re: Matador for the Bike: Options and Alternatives

              Originally posted by Adoksh View Post
              Hey Guys! If you've been following the Superbike and Imports section you'd know that I've booked the Ducati 959 Panigale and it's about a month away from delivery. This topic though is about figuring out the best vehicle to help me in to and fro travels from the city to the track. I live in Bangalore so the plan is to make regular trips to Chennai and Coimbatore.

              What I have been considering is picking up a Matador. It's always been the dream to pick one up, dress it up in Ducati wrap, clean up the insides, and load the bike up in the back.

              Let me know if you guys have any suggestions or alternatives or anything that would help me in my decision making!

              How much are you willing to spend?

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              • #37
                Re: Matador for the Bike: Options and Alternatives

                Originally posted by Kaushik Iyer View Post
                Well if you are willing to put time n effort in converting a winger why not put the same in a Tata xenon soft top? Here you save the issue of commercial vehicle thing and a making ur own soft top will give you customizing freedom. Add to that you still get 4 seating. So track day can be a friends/ family affair too.
                I really liked the Xenon but how am I fitting a Ducati at the back? The space available in the 4 seater is not enough for the Ducati and not too many two seater pick ups are available on the used car market.
                Every Motorcycle has a tale to be told and there is no greater privilage in the life of a rider than to have truly understood what his Motorcycle stands to tell. Some of the greatest stories in the world are not written, they are experienced.

                One of the many reasons they say, "Four Wheels Move the Body, Two Wheels Move the Soul"

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                • #38
                  Re: Matador for the Bike: Options and Alternatives

                  Originally posted by HyperRetard View Post
                  How much are you willing to spend?
                  Considering I'm spending almost everything I have and more on the Ducati, I want to spend as little as I can on the Matador Project. It's going to be spread out over a few months so I'll keep saving from my salary to develop this into a pretty neat project. But nothing on the lines of DC and Morpheus.
                  Every Motorcycle has a tale to be told and there is no greater privilage in the life of a rider than to have truly understood what his Motorcycle stands to tell. Some of the greatest stories in the world are not written, they are experienced.

                  One of the many reasons they say, "Four Wheels Move the Body, Two Wheels Move the Soul"

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                  • #39
                    Re: Matador for the Bike: Options and Alternatives

                    Originally posted by Adoksh View Post
                    I really liked the Xenon but how am I fitting a Ducati at the back? The space available in the 4 seater is not enough for the Ducati and not too many two seater pick ups are available on the used car market.

                    It really is. Xenon 4 seater luggage area length = 1430 mm
                    Panigale wheelbase =                     1,431 mm

                    A) its only a mm, you'll manage.
                    B) Even if you dont, diagonally, there will be plenty of space.
                    c) for the drawing attention part that you're worried about



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                    • #40
                      Re: Matador for the Bike: Options and Alternatives

                      If you want single pickup then xenon also has a single pickup & you can also check Isuzu Dmax as another option.

                      And When I say soft top I mean somewhat like this:



                      Which doesn't restrict you but also provides your bike cover from the elements & prying eyes.
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                      • #41
                        Re: Matador for the Bike: Options and Alternatives

                        Both of these look fantastic. The Xenon especially. I'll go take a look to see if it can safely hold the bike. If it is too tight a squeeze then we'd be running into trouble. I'll confirm that by checking it out st the showroom

                        The issue of price still remains though. Second hand Xenons would be costly and the Dmax just launched so very few if any will be in the used car market. From a price perspective unless I get a great deal I don't think I could move in for either of these two.
                        Every Motorcycle has a tale to be told and there is no greater privilage in the life of a rider than to have truly understood what his Motorcycle stands to tell. Some of the greatest stories in the world are not written, they are experienced.

                        One of the many reasons they say, "Four Wheels Move the Body, Two Wheels Move the Soul"

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                        • #42
                          Re: Matador for the Bike: Options and Alternatives

                          If a day's transport is all you need, and that too, once a month then why not spend some cash and construct a Motorbike-box which will be enough to house your bike+some tools & biking gear; then hire a tempo/ flatbed for a day or 2 everytime you need to do a trackday! This way you won't have to worry or go thru all the hassle involved.

                          At the outset renting might sound as an expensive option but when you consider all the hassels & nuances & long term costs involved for owning a "motorcycle transport trailer/grage" it far outweighs the once a while renting costs on a need basis.
                          Ride your Heart out!!!

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                          • #43
                            Re: Matador for the Bike: Options and Alternatives

                            Originally posted by Kaushik Iyer View Post
                            If a day's transport is all you need, and that too, once a month then why not spend some cash and construct a Motorbike-box which will be enough to house your bike+some tools & biking gear; then hire a tempo/ flatbed for a day or 2 everytime you need to do a trackday! This way you won't have to worry or go thru all the hassle involved.

                            At the outset renting might sound as an expensive option but when you consider all the hassels & nuances & long term costs involved for owning a "motorcycle transport trailer/grage" it far outweighs the once a while renting costs on a need basis.
                            Sure. I get that. But if you look at it from more than just a track day perspective, buying a Van/Pickup makes more sense I feel. Say I want to head to Jaisalmer or the hills or my farms. The Xenon would be perfect cause it can be used as a regular everyday vehicle as well. The winger and the matador not so much.

                            Again like everyone here has mentioned, I'll probably take a call once the Panigale arrives and I have a better understanding of how often I actually will take her out of the city
                            Every Motorcycle has a tale to be told and there is no greater privilage in the life of a rider than to have truly understood what his Motorcycle stands to tell. Some of the greatest stories in the world are not written, they are experienced.

                            One of the many reasons they say, "Four Wheels Move the Body, Two Wheels Move the Soul"

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