Topic Approved.

I hope people don't start any sort of brand war/ fights over this topic. Please keep the discussion same and logical, else the topic is going to be locked.

Even I was wondering the same thing!

Ok, the next lot of Nano's will be 1.20 or something like that. Even so, its a 624cc engine! Plus look at all the safety standards they've set! Plus tubeless tires and all. So managing a total package for 1.20lacs as base price for a car, and managing half of that for 80-90,000 should not be difficult right? Yes, maybe the development cost for the engine may be more, if a manufacturer is working all the way up from scratch. Or maybe the already established ones like Honda and Yamaha can manufacture a 300cc engine or an equivalent in India based on a blueprint of a similar engined bike they sell abroad..... Thought invoking. Surely will flash through my mind when I stop next to a Nano (1lac) at a traffic signal, me being on an R15 (97,000).

Exactly^^^

how about a sweet 624 Nano engined motorcycle by some tuner? Not too improbable in the future. And how about a pete's kit for the nano engine?

Now, this is what I've been harping about from a long time. The Indian bike makers just want to milk the market rather than giving enthusiasts a decent 30-40 RWHP 250-400cc sports/sports tourer. I hate this 20cc increments that we've been having for ages. I feel that they want the enthusiasts to spend more and more on their paltry increments/upgrades and make their bottomlines look nice and rosy. When I raised this very point in the TVS Apache 180 thread, we had someone supporting the manufacturers by saying that the low returns don't justify the investment. When we can have a Kawasaki Balius 250/Honda Hornet 250 inline fours putting out 40hp and selling for less than 2L in the Jap market, I see no reason why the Indian manufacturers can't come up with something similar. Given that India has a significant cost advantage compared to other countries, we should be making multi-cylinder 250s for less than 2L. If it is not happening currently, it is only because of the manufacturers' disinterest/alacrity/apathy toward the Indian motorcylist rather than anything else.

The mentality of most of the people is "What's the mileage of this bike ?" Damn there are so many things other than the mileage of a bike

Don't want to name any of the companies to rake up a war , most of them advertise bikes claiming 100 kmpl*** but to be frank how many companies seriously look for an opportunity in bringing power bikes ??? (except a couple)

ya i can understand india is milage bug bitten but what is an ideal price say for a splender with just a basic air cooled 100cc engine on a aged old frame compared to the nano. is the price fair?

or compare the pulsar220 or zma, r15 etc... nano engine is somewhat ahead of all these bikes in my openion.
i kinda feel we pay a lot more for our bikes than its actual cost. i dont know if i am correct but yes i am somewhat confused over this

@mod: thanks to approve the thread.

@ saj: Thanks for bringing out a topic I wanted to discuss openly.
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MY MESSAGE TO MOTORCYCLE MANUFACTURERS: Tata Nano is a 600cc car for about Rs. 1.3 Lacs on Road. Can't our Motorcycle industry do something of same capability?

Forget 1.3 Lacs!!! Forget it! I give you 3 times the price of Nano - Rs. 3.9 Lacs on road, for a Road suitable & technology equipped, 3-4 cylinder 600cc, 2 wheeler.

Isn't 3 times enough? Do you still need Volumes of sales, after such a big margin??

I'm still waiting, and now the wait is getting really frustrating! What is this, a Damn Test of Patience? or what?

We do expect Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki & Bajaj to hand out some real performance, but not at a 200 kgs impractical drag-load, at a million rupees (Read: those CBU's). Do something more, for India please! and yes, R15 can do with more cc's, about 400-600 otherwise it's near-perfect!

I urge all manufacturers to come out & speak clearly. Speak out your problems & comments!! I know some of them visit Xbhp for sure ...

@MODS: am not starting any war, but just out of curiosity... asking!!!

Do Anyone actually wants a Yami/Honda/Suzuki/etc. NANO version of a SBKs/IndianSBKs ???
I mean it'll make them very cheap & then everyone will have a similar thing like ZMA/P220 mini versions... & the whole exclusivity factor will be gone n people like me will have to wait for another good costly bike that'll satisfy me as an exclusive owner.

why three times more when it has already been achieved at a lower price??? a 250 - 300 with similar power and torque output at half the price of nano. why is it not possible??? atleast an aircooled twin fi must be possible! isnt it?? and if milage is concern, then is the price justified for the basic 100cc bikes that we pay?

what exclusive?? if a 250 such as comet is made ground up in india, wont it be half the price than import. isnt we paying enough to get much better bikes? if u want exclusivity go for a bigger bike.

Can anyone apart from TATAs do this?
Designing the bike is not just about designing the engine, there is a lot of factors built into it...

Do you really think the Two Wheeler Market in India is matured to handle a 600CC bike available in 1 lakh rupees?
When I say maturity, I mean Financial+Mental ability

This is going to be a rat race... slow upgrades till 250CC... then when someone breaks the barrier we will have 400CCs...

Here is my message to all two wheeler manufacturers.. I am willing to give you 3 times the money you charge for your bikes.... give me a competitor to Nano...

(Just Wondering 3x XCD = Bajaj grabs Tata Motors by thier balls!_
1x for two wheels
2x for four wheels
3x for four wheels + the sundry...

i read the title only and i thought op want 100$ bike


but then in post i see matter going in opposite direcrion.. op want power


but that's sounds very srs matter ,as a mattr of fact we should get equivalnt power for our money but we should think this too that mayb tata is trying earn what has been spent on development of nano by selling GREATR no of vehicle[car].. but inthis case two wheeler looses as they cant hope for similar sale of highend BIKE ,which only few require\want!

so i think we wont see similer move from two wheeler companys !

u mis took it satyen. i didnt mean i want a 600 for 1lac. what i mean is nano comes with a decent engine with two cylinders liquid cooled mpfi. compared to this our bikes are very basic. also i know designing a bike is not easy but that does not mean designing a car is a childs play right? my question is if tata can do this satisfying all safety standards and emission norms, then 1. what holds our bike manufacturers back? dont you think r15 could have done with more cc? or pulsar220 could hav been a lot more cheeper. check out fz16 and tell me is it really worth the price? my question is 2. if our bikes are overprised?

well i dont know how much i am correct but i certainley feel that our bikes cost much more than it should. what is wrong if i desire a 35 bhp twin mpfi liquid cooled bike at say 1 to 1.5L on road???

if compared to nano i think a 250/300 is certainley possible! and if it is not possible then why is it so?

And I guess, this thread speaks about making for example a 600CC bike at the cost of a Nano... isnt it? n you are suggesting me to go for a bigger bike!!!
What is your defination for a bigger bike? I hope a any 600CC bike is big enough to call a bigger bike... isnt it?

& I guess Satyen had already answered to your query...