@anvancy- If you read my post I said Higher CC bikes. What attracts Indians to spend big ticket is the Look more than performance. The R15 got sold because it looked like a proper Superbike (Mini R1) with enough steam to kick the backside of every other production bike at that time. Also the Yamaha name helped.

@anvancy ---- lovely write up........ toooooo good........ I want to be a chooser........ I want everything & that too at less price ........
but jokes apart........ whoever comes to India follows a simple rule ---- If the public is asking for Taj Mahal give them Bibi ka Maqbara.......

I want to see some good bikes in terms of performance and looks....... I know litre bikes are there........ for that I have to wait few years (maybe more)....... it shouldn't be like--- lena hai to lo........
a simple dialogue from Spiderman---- With great power, comes great Responsibility.........

after reading your points it seems you are not sure what to say & with what to compare........ I am just giving my views......... u r comparing an iPhone with the product of Nokia or Samsung in the range of 10k........ u r comparing a DSLR with a day-2-day normal digicam(withing a range of 12k)........ or whatever you want can think of........

wat is the market for performance bikes....... selling more than 10000 pieces........ they launched these bikes keeping in mind that the nos. will be less....... but even then also Yamaha were amazed by the sale figure of R1 at the very first year........ since they anticipated very less nos........ moreover performance bikes always doesn't mean a litre class or more......... we dont even have a good 300cc performance bike & u r talking about a litre bike........ of course we don't even have a market for 300cc bike......... cauz a normal villager will not buy it........ a doodhwala will prefer Enfield over this 300cc bike........ n a day-2-day commuter will prefer a splendor......... so we really don't have a market......... but the cos. may find few people who are willing........ and these few people come to forums and other blogs write about all these things........ and maybe this no. is insignificant with respect to our population......... but that is also a good no. for the cos. to take a step......... but these cos. are also following another rule ---- Pahle aap Pahle aap......... of the cos. are doing something........ and that is THEY ARE MAKING MONEY(maybe preparing themselves to face another recession).........

Please go thru these threads also and have some idea about few figures........ and even what few among the few are asking........
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+100........ very true....... but a bike accident kills 1 or 2 ........ a car accident may kill atleast 1-2 ........ so I think govt should first ban cars, especially higher cc cars........ there should not be cars more than 1k cc......... is this what u r asking........ even I think we should use cycles so that there are no accidents ........

Query

I might sound very stupid, but sometime back i had heard of this thing called PIL(Public interest Litigation). I just want to know wether it can be used against the absurd import rules laid down by our Govt
I dont know much about it, has any one got any idea?

where to upgrade from 100 cc apart from 225 cc bikes

If a person who today rides a 100cc splendor or platina wants to upgrade his bike to a higher cc he is just limited to 225 cc not beyond that and thats where i say we dont have choices, but to live with what we get i.e the same beggar situation comes up, why cant a normal 100cc biker look to upgrade to 400 cc or something at a cost of 2 lakhs, we dont want that big branded stuff but if our home based manufacturers can manufacture bikes which are of good quality, if they can build karizma they can also build a 400 cc sport bike in india, i feel our home has manufacturers which can really build better bikes though they dont have biggy names like HH or bajaj, but if our government can support them it can really bring a big change to our countrys two wheeler industry, we have automobile engineering colleges and the students do take initiative to build but our govt and this big name manufacturers dont support them so they die their natural death, in other words their beautiful dreams which can change the industry burns away.

@technocrat:agreed.

duties..

there are two perspectives when it comes to why the taxes.

first that i can think of is protection.the moment i put down and bring down the customs and other duties on foreign bikes,the domestic players are gonna seriously drop.we people long know that the quality of these coming bikes which are direct imports or units,are original(as in their home grown quality).so the base INDIAN companies now will start crying.so govt has put duties on a high level,thus to make us buy what we see in the showroom.

or the other factor,our babus simply dont want us to ride high cc bikes.inko dimag nahi raha ta hai gadi chala ne ka..kyu de bade engine ki bike??

simply speaking i see some reality changing..ie probable launch of NINJA and such,and no reality...we still are stuck with same bikes with new stickering.

anvancy

what i would wish for is 300-350cc.......30-35 bhp.....20 -25 kmpl priced around 1.5 lac.something like the original high tourqe R.D.-350
a perfect recipe for a mass production performance sports bike...........
i know it is tough but it is achivable.......
what say guyz..?

That's great. But when would the manufacturers implement it?

nice thinking, hope the automobile industry of our country and the government understands that we want to be choosers not beggars

I have just one thing to say.When there is a market for cars like the Jazz,so do quarter litre bikes...Look at what Honda did.They didn't expect huge numbers for their product.They brought in a world class hatch knowing that the margins would be low...yet,it sells.It's just the attitude of these bike companies which need a major overhaul.It's never good to expect is all I would like to say...

just a thought.................
buy a nano at 1 lac..........
take out the 600cc engine............
invest another 1 lac to retune the engine and make a customise body.........
then gel the engine and the customise body.....woollaa .....
u are ready with a 600 cc sports bike.....at an unbeatable price.......

Theek hai theek hai.....more posts after putting the new stylish pic .

Btw, Good suggestion. But, who will retune that engine. Probably we will have to send them to banglore for that. .

In India everything revolves around social posing. People who buy jazz get a lot of things which would make sense to 90% of indian people. On top of it they get to hear " ooh, see he is driving a car." The same can not be said for bikes. In india motorcycles are still considered as the cheapest means to travel from point a to point b. Premium bikes are considered frivilious and waste of money. I am still talking about the 90%.

The rest 10% are us bikers. Most of us may not even have means for buying a half liter bike by paying 5 lakhs. on top of it most of us are used to riding small capacity machines, suddenly graduating to super bikes might turn out to be a very costly mistake.

What manufacturers shouyld do is introduce 250 to 400cc multi cylinder bikes. The Honda cb300r is a perfect bike for india but they wont launch it here. I personally am disappointed with Yamaha and I dont even count suzuki.

I think this mindset people should be changed from just a mere commuting machine to a beautiful piece of art