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**Aryan** · 07-31-2009, 01:43 AM

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**Nio** · 07-31-2009, 01:56 AM

Nice thread Ayush.. I too would like to have some info about it..
May be right to information act can help us

**abhijeet080808** · 07-31-2009, 02:35 AM

Originally posted by Ayush Singh View Post

1. Is it mandatory to have all the documents while driving a vehicle (car or bike)? Please specify what documents are supposed to be carried around? Registration Certificate, License, Insurance papers, PUC(in some states).

2. If the driver has just the driving license and is wearing a helmet how much does he need to shell as fine? Varies from state to state. Ballpark of around Rs. 500 (legally with receipt). Else, Rs. 100 is good enough (goes to the policemen's pocket directly, not to the govt).

3. If a police man stops the driver and gets hurt/killed in the attempt, how does the government takes it. Not much idea. IMO, it is the driver's fault.

4. Is it mandatory to have insurance while driving in India? Yes, with up to date policies.

5. If a vehicle doesn't have insurance how much fine is charged? Same as 2.

6. Is State Police authorized to check helmet/documents etc from commuters? I too have doubts on this one. But, I believe they are authorised.

7. What is the importance of Traffic Police if State Police can do all this work?

8. For checking of this sort who gives the orders?

Tried answering some of the questions.

**Mindgrinder** · 07-31-2009, 11:30 AM

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Ok for ppl who asked questions, u get all these answers when u apply for license you can clarify and i am sure some traffic police site has it mentioned, well anyways.

1. Is it mandatory to have all the documents while driving a vehicle (car or bike)? Please specify what documents are supposed to be carried around?

Ans: you need to have Bike/car Registration Certificate (RC), Valid Insurance and Driving License (or smart card with all the info) without License and insurance you are as good as a murderer in a race car.

2. If the driver has just the driving license and is wearing a helmet how much does he need to shell as fine?

Ans: The fine varies from State to state as these rulings are defined by state traffic police or high court until challanged, in most cases bike would be impounded and can be registered as stolen. If bike papers are not on your name they should be either on your fathers name as on license or you should have NOC from the last owner.

3. If a police man stops the driver and gets hurt/killed in the attempt, how does the government takes it.

Ans: What do u think? Obviously get arrested and ready for trial.

4. Is it mandatory to have insurance while driving in India?

Ans: Yes!

5. If a vehicle doesn't have insurance how much fine is charged?

Ans: list of various fines in karanataka Bangalore City Traffic Police

ideally it should be a court fine where judge decides.

6. Is State Police authorized to check helmet/documents etc from commuters?

Ans: No only Traffic Cops that too above the level of constable. If you mean regular state police just ask them for challan they do not have book and cannot fine you simple!

7. What is the importance of Traffic Police if State Police can do all this work?

Ans: Already mentioned in question 6, more or less irrelevant question, you answered it yourself

8. For checking of this sort who gives the orders?
Ans: generally by traffic commissioner or court you can see stamp on your challan. Sometimes state govt give orders to commissioner for a check

**Cyberpunk** · 07-31-2009, 02:07 PM

Originally posted by Mindgrinder View Post

6. Is State Police authorized to check helmet/documents etc from commuters?

Ans: No only Traffic Cops that too above the level of constable.
If you mean regular state police just ask them for challan they do not have book and cannot fine you simple!

Good to know but, can anyone verify this? (Motor Vehicle Act, etc., esp. in relation to Villages where there are no Traffic Police)

**nightwing** · 07-31-2009, 02:51 PM

Except the driving license,you can keep the xerox copy of the insurance,PUC,and RC attested by a gazetted officer with you instead of the originals.

**moeed** · 07-31-2009, 03:10 PM

To avoid the cops, It is compulsory to carry all the documents (DL, RC, Insurance, PUC) and wear a helmet while riding the bike at all times. In addition to this, your bike should have a proper number plate i.e number in black on white number plate written in bold letters. Obey all the traffic rules. After this, even if the cops stop you, they will check all the documents and leave you. Don't try to escape if the cop tries to stop you, it will make matters worse.

**nand15** · 07-31-2009, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by nightwing View Post

Except the driving license,you can keep the xerox copy of the insurance,PUC,and RC attested by a gazetted officer with you instead of the originals.

hmmm are you sure we need to attest it ??? because I have been carrying only the photocopies and not the originals ... have been stopped a few times but they seem to be ok with the copies itself without any attestation ...

**abhijeet080808** · 07-31-2009, 03:33 PM

^^ Depends upon the state. In Assam, they will straightaway tell you the photocopies are invalid. Attested copies, they will reluctantly accept.

**setuniket** · 07-31-2009, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by Ayush Singh View Post

Hi Members,

For past few months there was constant checking by Police Officials in my area. The checking included Helmet, and sometimes Registration Documents and Insurance papers. Today, a police man got killed when a biker hit him hard with his bike. I would like to know more about out country's laws with these cases and checking.

Where do you put up? Which city?

Originally posted by Ayush Singh View Post

1. Is it mandatory to have all the documents while driving a vehicle (car or bike)? Please specify what documents are supposed to be carried around?

Yes it is, you are supposed to carry Registration certificate, Tax certificate(generally mentioned in the RC itself)

Originally posted by Ayush Singh View Post

2. If the driver has just the driving license and is wearing a helmet how much does he need to shell as fine?

Mention your city/state as it varies from state to state in respect to fines.

Originally posted by Ayush Singh View Post

3. If a police man stops the driver and gets hurt/killed in the attempt, how does the government takes it.

Depends, the person might to charged with causing death by negligence, or even culapble homicide not amounting to murder or relevant sections of the Motor Vehicles act.

Originally posted by Ayush Singh View Post

4. Is it mandatory to have insurance while driving in India?

YES, Dont even think of using your vehicle without Insurance, You are required to posses atleast 3rd party insurance. Its not just legal requirement but also saves you from financial burden of compensation.

Originally posted by Ayush Singh View Post

5. If a vehicle doesn't have insurance how much fine is charged?

Mention your city/state as it varies from state to state in respect to fines.

Originally posted by Ayush Singh View Post

6. Is State Police authorized to check helmet/documents etc from commuters?

Yes they are allowed to do so. Ref: Sec 130 Motor Vehicles Act.

Originally posted by Ayush Singh View Post

7. What is the importance of Traffic Police if State Police can do all this work?

Traffic Police is force made to take care of traffic and implementation of the Motor Laws in India. Due to lack of enough man power in Traffic police, state police constables, Home guards and officers are also deputed.

Originally posted by Ayush Singh View Post

8. For checking of this sort who gives the orders?

That also varies, In city the generally the DCP or ACP of Zone/Traffic generally give orders in this regard. In case of checking for stolen vehicles the control room or even the SHO's orders checking of document or suspect vehicles.

Originally posted by Ayush Singh View Post

I should mention that people in my locality are fed up with this checking.

Go to the CP or SSP's office and file an RTI application, Prepare a question pay Rs 10 and wait for 30 days see what they reply

Originally posted by Ayush Singh View Post

Even wearing a helmet and driving with responsibility once I was caught and was asked for "Documents" when I forwarded the License and RC book I was asked for Insurance, and since I didn't have insurance on my bike I was asked to pay fine of Rs100. When I paid it I asked him to write that you have taken this money because I didn't have insurance, but the police wala said don't ask so much else you will have to pay Rs.1000 for not having insurance. I was pissed and got out of there as neither I'm a powerful person nor do I know anything so there was only my loss if I might have argued with him in INDIA.

Firstly, make sure you have every document metioned above. Secondly You have to know little more about the fines, it helps you a lot. If the cop fines you make sure that you get proper receipt and pay it. If you think he has charged you for an offence which you didnt do, file another RTI. Dont leave these guys.

**blisteringintelligence** · 07-31-2009, 05:41 PM

As mentioned always carry:

Driving License

Registration Certificate(In case you have brought it from someone else and haven't transferred it in your name get a NOC from the owner and his address proof)
Valid insurance certificate
Pollution Under Control Certificate

About the photocopy thing I am not sure, in Delhi Once my friend showed photocopy of the papers and the answer came that this is not legal, you need to have the original papers. Its better to avoid cops as they would always cook up some law or the other..

Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post

^^ Depends upon the state. In Assam, they will straightaway tell you the photocopies are invalid. Attested copies, they will reluctantly accept.

Bingo... Nowadays they even ask for pollution certificates..

**nightwing** · 07-31-2009, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by nand15 View Post

hmmm are you sure we need to attest it ??? because I have been carrying only the photocopies and not the originals ... have been stopped a few times but they seem to be ok with the copies itself without any attestation ...

Yes I am dead sure. I have a very good source of this information.

Play safe and get it attested. You might have to carry the original PUC.

**diffuser911** · 07-31-2009, 06:57 PM

Hey, what's the deal with Bangalore cops? I've heard they stop you just because your licence plates are not bearing the letters KA. What needs to be done for getting my JH registered bike there and run without inviting trouble? I am going there for just three months.

**setuniket** · 07-31-2009, 09:32 PM

Originally posted by nightwing View Post

Yes I am dead sure. I have a very good source of this information.

Play safe and get it attested. You might have to carry the original PUC.

You HAVE to carry the original PUC with you everytime, no excuse or else straight fine of Rs 1000.

Originally posted by diffuser911 View Post

Hey, what's the deal with Bangalore cops? I've heard they stop you just because your licence plates are not bearing the letters KA. What needs to be done for getting my JH registered bike there and run without inviting trouble? I am going there for just three months.

Bangalore is troublesome in this respect, dont worry as pe the law you are allowed to use your outstation vehicle for 6 months without paying road tax in that state. You have to prove that you havent crossed that stipulated 6 month time. I suggest you to:

-Get a PUC done just before leaving Jamshedpur.
-Keep the last Fuel Bill intact(with your Bike registration number) prepared some time before you leave.I possible get 2-3 fuel bills later by post to show that you are new to the city.

and also if you have any other document which proves that you arent a resident of the city say for eg a letter from the company/university which states that you are in Bangalore for just 3 months and if possible the date also.

and also dont forget to pray everytime you see cops.

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