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  • #16
    Originally posted by ashes View Post
    @moeed

    100KMPl!!!...which bike do you ride mate??
    I ride a Platina.

    Originally posted by fast_ferocious View Post
    Do you start your Platina or just push it?
    LOL! The mileage depends on my riding style. Once I even got 40 km/l on the highway. That was when I was completely ripping the bike.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by rahuldevnath View Post
      Is it Pulsar UG4? Anyways 30Kmpl is too low, expect a mileage of at least 38 to 42.

      If all the above points are Ok, then the carburetor is not properly tuned. Go to SVC, but do make sure Air Fuel Ratio is set to balanced and not too LEAN, as it generally happens when you ask SVC people for low mileage.
      Yes rahuldevnath its ug 4, and bought it on diwali. RPM never exceeded 4k. Some more questions.

      1 What should be Gear and Speed Ratio?
      2 How to apply Brake in fast speed?
      3 How to apply sudden brakes without loosing balance?
      4 How to do cornering?
      5 How to drive in Slow/Jam Traffic?
      How to maintain lowest rpm in any gear?

      and lastly, what a indicator indicates in RPM meter in pulsar 180. What if it glow and what if it doesnt glow.
      "When the god is on your side, then who else is on the other side"

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      • #18
        Originally posted by thehbkhim View Post
        Yes rahuldevnath its ug 4, and bought it on diwali. RPM never exceeded 4k. Some more questions.

        1 What should be Gear and Speed Ratio? it depends on you ..generally try to shift each gear at 3k-4k rpm..
        your not on drags,so try to shift as early as possible,but donot allow ur engine to produce a knocking sound
        2 How to apply Brake in fast speed?
        donot apply disc's during fast speeds,apply rear brakes first ,then slightly apply front/disc brakes
        3 How to apply sudden brakes without loosing balance?
        apply both the brakes at the same time,40% front disc 60% rear brake
        4 How to do cornering?
        experts,help him in this matter
        5 How to drive in Slow/Jam Traffic?
        just keep it in 3rd-2nd gear according to the situation
        How to maintain lowest rpm in any gear?
        u cannot maintain lower rpm's in higher gears
        and lastly, what a indicator indicates in RPM meter in pulsar 180. What if it glow and what if it doesnt glow.
        it glows when the fuel is in reserve,that is in p180 when the fuel goes below 4ltrs,it will glow
        and when u redline,the redlight will glow
        ans are in bold,
        btw what others are absolutely corrrect,smoothness is the key to extract higher mileages..
        but bikes above 150cc are meant for power,if u want FE bikes..then go for 100 cc or 125 cc ..
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        • #19
          Originally posted by thehbkhim View Post
          Yes rahuldevnath its ug 4, and bought it on diwali. RPM never exceeded 4k. Some more questions.

          1 What should be Gear and Speed Ratio?
          2 How to apply Brake in fast speed?
          3 How to apply sudden brakes without loosing balance?
          4 How to do cornering?
          5 How to drive in Slow/Jam Traffic?
          How to maintain lowest rpm in any gear?

          and lastly, what a indicator indicates in RPM meter in pulsar 180. What if it glow and what if it doesnt glow.
          here's my bit of info. not exactly to your questions
          My roomie has bought a new p180 ug4 on sep 30
          bike has run under 500km and first service is due now. and i've done most of the 500!
          on the mileage, the first 100rs refill gave a mileage of ~35 km
          the next 2 100 rs fill gave ~45-48 kmpl.

          our room to workplace is less than 2 km and has a steep uphill climb onto a very busy junction without traffic lights. and the longest continuous drive has been a 25 km ride to the beach and back. So the mileage may be better under better circumstances.

          For getting better mileage, here's my 2 cents. the ug3 upwards comes with analog ignition upto 3k rpm or so. so try to keep the tacho between 3-5 k . also the engine sound is a very good feedback source. always make sure you do not lug the engine. any sign of pinking and go easy on the throttle or downshift.
          The TPS helps to auto advance the ignition for better performance. no matter at what rpm you are, whenever you open the throttle, you feel that the engine sounds changes a lot. this is due to the different ignition mapping and the larger air intake size.
          when accelerating, maintain a mild and steady throttle. rather than giving high throttle on a high gear and watch the tacho climb slowly, downshift and accelerate mildly. this is often quicker than the former method.
          And always the engine does pick up speed at a constant throttle.

          Also, for very slow traffic, downshift liberally and let go of the clutch. the bike pulls effortlessly on 1st and 2nd gear without throttle(idle speed).

          All these are for those who spend 70k+ on a bike but wont spend 1000rs on gas a month.
          I used to ride a 180 ug2 for 6 months and it used to return me >40kmpl shifting gears at 7k+. (the sweet spot of the 180 lies between 6-9 k IMHO).
          unfortunately, i had to shift quarters to this new place where i can't rip a pulsar. So the wise guy I am bought an rx100 and I can now ride till 3rd gear and the little bike gives me a healthy 25kmpl

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          • #20
            @ceasar
            2 How to apply Brake in fast speed?
            donot apply disc's during fast speeds,apply rear brakes first ,then slightly apply front/disc brakes

            I'd recommend exactly the opposite. Discs are for quick stopping. whenever you are in a straight line use the disc and use the rear brake only to support it. (forget about brakes when the handle is not straight. use engine braking instead / brake into the curve)

            3 How to apply sudden brakes without loosing balance?
            apply both the brakes at the same time,40% front disc 60% rear brake
            same as above. The rear brake on the 180 is not very good. mild braking often produces little result and on hard braking the rear skids.(my experience but not on ug4 maybe the 120 section tyres are better?)

            Emergency braking cannot be premeditated. it comes with your general riding style or experience.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by ttg View Post

              For getting better mileage, here's my 2 cents. the ug3 upwards comes with analog ignition upto 3k rpm or so.

              hey bro, what is analog ignition upto 3K means here???

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              • #22
                Originally posted by ttg View Post
                @ceasar
                2 How to apply Brake in fast speed?
                donot apply disc's during fast speeds,apply rear brakes first ,then slightly apply front/disc brakes

                I'd recommend exactly the opposite. Discs are for quick stopping. whenever you are in a straight line use the disc and use the rear brake only to support it. (forget about brakes when the handle is not straight. use engine braking instead / brake into the curve)

                3 How to apply sudden brakes without loosing balance?
                apply both the brakes at the same time,40% front disc 60% rear brake
                same as above. The rear brake on the 180 is not very good. mild braking often produces little result and on hard braking the rear skids.(my experience but not on ug4 maybe the 120 section tyres are better?)

                Emergency braking cannot be premeditated. it comes with your general riding style or experience.
                disc's abruptly stops the bike,so there is a risk of loosing control on high speeds, not recomended at all ,use rear brakes to stabilize the bike first and then apply front disc's

                and yes you are right, emergency braking cannot be premeditated, he asked such a question,thats why i gave the ans,atleast i use that method
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                • #23
                  Finally got mileage i wanted from my bike

                  Today i went to Greater Noida in the morning on my Pulsar 180. Finally today i drove as you guys suggested, no quick speeding, no sudden breaking, proper acceleration, and speed between 40 kmph to 60 kmph. Look what i got in result, a healthy 48 kmpl mileage.

                  Thanks to all of you.
                  "When the god is on your side, then who else is on the other side"

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                  • #24
                    Apart from all the several tech-related things mentioned in the previous posts i.e keeping your bike in shape etc. The one simple thing you can do to get good mileage out of any bike is to ride slow, ride easy, and ride smooth. I'm sure you know how to do it as well....
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by abhichotu.abhi View Post
                      hey bro, what is analog ignition upto 3K means here???
                      see this
                      pic courtesy workshop manual posted by abhijeet080808
                      link here http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/pit-stop...df-format.html

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by ceasar View Post
                        disc's abruptly stops the bike,so there is a risk of ....method
                        We're from different schools of thought


                        Originally posted by thehbkhim View Post
                        Today i went to Greater Noida in the morning on my Pulsar 180. Finally today i drove as you guys suggested, no quick speeding, no sudden breaking, proper acceleration, and speed between 40 kmph to 60 kmph. Look what i got in result, a healthy 48 kmpl mileage.


                        Thanks to all of you.
                        That's what i'm talking about!
                        Originally posted by KwokFist View Post
                        Apart from all the several tech-related things mentioned in the previous posts i.e keeping your bike in shape etc. The one simple thing you can do to get good mileage out of any bike is to ride slow, ride easy, and ride smooth. I'm sure you know how to do it as well....
                        Yeah. simply put, ride easy, ride smooth

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                        • #27
                          I m getting abt 60kmpl from my 150 pulsar.

                          Sometimes I drive 80 and while touring I touch 100 too.

                          But the way in which I increase speed is mainly at the fifth cog. There will be no sudden acceleration / harsh braking.

                          I never accelerate constantly at the same speed even in the deserted road.
                          I left the accelerator to idle position for a few secs and accelerate back. maintaining 80kmph during touring is ok

                          I accelerate at moderate speed at the 1-4 gears. Usually I maintin 3-5K rpms.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by ceasar View Post
                            disc's abruptly stops the bike,so there is a risk of loosing control on high speeds, not recomended at all ,use rear brakes to stabilize the bike first and then apply front disc's...
                            From what I have learnt from conversations we had with racing Pros like Pritam Dev at TVS racing, we should always use front breaks in case of breaking in greater speeds and use rear one to support the balance along with it.. Also apply disc break progressively.. not abruptly unless it is an emergency...

                            Bike India Nov 09 issue has a special feature on Breaking.. Check it out..
                            Also use good set of tyres depending on the terrain you ride most often..
                            - Ren -
                            It takes more love to share the saddle than it does to share the bed

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                            • #29
                              with regards to braking, i use the front heavily with the rear to stabilize, unless i am in a bend or turn, then the front is modulated to keep the line in check.

                              The rear should be used with the front, but front 60-70 even 80%, with rest going to the rear.

                              Practise emergency braking on open roads if you dont wanna suffer a lock up or a slide. Once you keep doing it a number of times, your body and mind might just remember the right way to brake in an emergency.

                              One main point that i would like to mention is, If you can ride your bike in traffic using minimum brakes, you are riding very efficiently.

                              The more brakes you use, the more energy is wasted ( the energy consumed by burning the fuel to get to the speed). So if you are cruising with traffic, and use brakes to a minimum, and start using gaps and lanes to your advantage ( keeping an eye out on your rear view mirrors ), and minimize the use of brakes, you will automatically be wasting minimum fuel simply accelerating all the time. You will carry more speed in. Coast to a halt, no need in reaching the red light and jamming the brakes.

                              Keep your distance, you will brake less right behind vehicles, and hence no fuel wasted again for accelerating and coming upto speed.

                              Also it will help increase the life of your brakes.

                              I have done it for three years everyday Gurgaon - Delhi via MG road, and have consistently gotten mileage of 42-45 kmpl from my Tbird, even 52 +

                              And it was not that i was crawling at 45-50, i was with traffic, but keeping below 80, between 65-75.


                              My offerings to the gods of speed -

                              - KTM Duke 200
                              - Yamaha RXZ 5 speed


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                              • #30
                                Mileage drop in Pulsar 180

                                Hello everyone....
                                I own a Pulsar 180 UG4. Done just 3500 kms. I have some serious issue regarding the mileage. I always check the mileage through Reserve to reserve calculation . As per the calculation, I am getting the mileage of just 22-23 Kmpl which I think is a very low mileage for a P180. I took the bike to the Bajaj service centre and the service manager checked the mileage by connecting the external fuel tank ( the smaller one which they actually use for the test ride bikes..) . He filled exactly 100ml of fuel and checked the mileage . The bike delivered 4.3 kms, which means for one litre, is 43 kms.
                                But when I check through reserve to reserve calculation, reserve falls off when the gauge shows just 22-24 kms. Does my bike really has a drop in mileage..?? If so What is the exact problem for the drop in mileage..?? ...Is it the problem with the Engine or will there be any leakage in the fuel line....??? Plz help me...

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