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  • #16
    Originally posted by Aryan View Post
    Accidents do happen almost daily in one part of the country or the other just because we don’t care or start worrying about it only after the inevitable has overtaken us. It may be some boat tragedy in Bihar or a collision between a speeding train and a bus at an unmanned railway crossing, or hundreds of fatal incidents happening in the city or on the country sides.

    Take road accidents. A rough estimate long ago put the number of deaths in India at around a lakh every year. It must be more now with so many vehicles with different descriptions entering our highways, city streets and village roads. No-one really knows the number of injured or those incapacitated for life. To what would you attribute these man-made tragedies? Speed kills, especially when the man behind the wheel goes beyond the legally permissible limits in certain zones of the city. You court disaster when you lose your sense of judgment and start driving after fully drunk at a dinner in a party or a hotel. Often, you come across the hoarding saying: ”Don’t mix driving with drinking”. It is a heady cocktail that can cause instant death for you, your loved ones or other innocent road users. And then there are those who care little about the traffic signals when the traffic policeman is not around. There are still others who ride zig-zag on bikes, cutting lanes without the least concern of other road-users, just for the thrill of it. But alas! The thrill does not really last long.

    On highways between Delhi and Jaipur or Delhi and Chandigarh, one would daily notice a goods carrier overturned with the voluminous contents of the vehicle scattered on the road. Here, the driver, who works for prolonged hours for their living, wouldn’t even know when he fell asleep. Fatigue and overwork take their toll aided by a brake failure or a mechanical defect, all caused by the failure of the vehicle owner to get their vehicles checked up or serviced periodically.

    In several road accidents, the Government turns out to be the number one culprit. Speed breaker or bumps are not properly marked with the result that the riders of two wheelers coming at high speeds can easily be thrown off their seats and can cause fatal accidents. Roads are in bad shape in many cities in many states. Different departments - the Electricity Department, the Telephone Department, Sewage Wing and the Water Department, working with the least co-ordination amongst themselves, dig up the sideways of the roads or across the roads by turn and leave them in awful condition, creating the right “atmosphere” for accidents. And nobody takes any responsibility, if any mishap happens. Apportioning responsibility or taking no responsibility at all is the style of governance in our democratic country. In turn, those potholes remain as they are because the Government says they have no money. The politicians have no political will to mend things on time and if someone dies because of the ill-maintained roads, then, well, “Who Cares”.

    We have to give up the Chalta Hai attitude, if we are keen on preventing accidents.

    Apportioning responsibility or taking no responsibility at all is the style of governance in our democratic country. In turn, those potholes remain as they are because the Government says they have no money. The politicians have no political will to mend things on time and if someone dies because of the ill-maintained roads, then, well, “Who Cares”.

    true point from the heart buddy +1 for that

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    • #17
      @Aryan
      truly said!
      Biggest cause of accidents is lack of road sense, people dont know how to ride/drive their vehicles, most people just ride/drive the way they feel its ok.
      sometime back when i went for my learning DL test 95% didnt knew the meanings of road sings, they wer asking from each other and they want to take there vehicle on the road!
      and also one of the problems i face is that while standing on a traffic signal people honk,even if they know that the signal is red and force others to move ahead.

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      • #18
        Safety First

        @ Aryan

        Well said Aryan. The mindset of Indian people is still lagging behind the old ages and its also the typical "CHALTA HAI" attitude.

        But i guess now more and more people have started to realise safety concerns. I would encourage more and more bike lovers to join XBHP and learn the sense of riding.

        The XBHP in different cities should hold GTG and create awareness amongst the people for safe riding practices.
        Ride Hard !!! Ride Safe!!! Enjoy every moment on your machine !!! Cheers....

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        • #19
          Originally posted by anants_220 View Post
          Only if all of us at XBHP can follow rules to the T can we bring about a change in anyone else's riding/driving habits.

          For example,since the day i got the xbhp sticker on my bike,everytime my immature brain tells me to jump a signal,i hold back,thinking that if people who represent a community i.e. the members,dont follow rules n regulations,how will we be able to bring about a change in the motorcycling scene in India.

          Im glad India dsnt have super sexy roads like some other countries because till the common man's mindset changes,faster cars n bikes will only lead to disaster.

          u are absolutely right bro i ve seen this problem with our indians[even with me at times] the mindset to break the rules and move on and when a rides thinks he should ride perfect he starts following the rules and wen a rider zapps through the road i remember my early days wen i had the mindset why should i ride normal wen i have such a powerful bike and also i thought accident wont happen to me wen this mindset is corrected everyone will be a disciplined and safe rider and now a days i try to ride in disciplined manner but at very rare cases i fail
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          • #20
            Originally posted by nipunblaze135LS View Post
            @Aryan
            truly said!
            Biggest cause of accidents is lack of road sense, people dont know how to ride/drive their vehicles, most people just ride/drive the way they feel its ok.
            sometime back when i went for my learning DL test 95% didnt knew the meanings of road sings, they wer asking from each other and they want to take there vehicle on the road!
            and also one of the problems i face is that while standing on a traffic signal people honk,even if they know that the signal is red and force others to move ahead.
            yes i have faced this problem too a tvs 50 will be goin at 10kmph and a bus will be madly honkin behind him and the tvs 50 rider will be least bothered and the bus driver will stop in the mid of the lane instead of stopping at the left most lane near bustop and the cycle rider will be glidin from left to right and right to left lane happily without worryin about anyone and the worst the auto rikshaw will suddenly put a u in the mid of the road without any indication or even attempting to notice and the lorries and busses will coming in opposite to us will come straight at us like trying to ramm us thus driving in india need more skills than driving in rally sports thus i conclude the talent of indian drivers very high who still survey in the above conditions but thats thrill man wats the fun wen there is no danger
            A Biker by basic design

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            • #21
              I am seriously saddened by the attitude of these illegitimate sons of the India government, the bus drivers. In a matter of a week my sister and I both are in hospital because of these gentlemen. About a week ago my sister was returning from office with a colleague on a splendor when a bus driver decided that since it was 10: 30 at night there was no need to stop for the red signal and hit the bike head on rendering both my sister and her colleague unconscious. My sister has a broken arm and has lost vision in one eye which might be permanent.

              If that was not enough, today while coming to office from hospital, at the anna university signal when the light went orange I was slowing down and a Govt bus directly rammed me from the back causing me to collide with a ct100 in front of me. In the end my left palm ended up between my rear wheel and front wheel of the bus.

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              • #22
                Freak accidents!

                Sorry to hear that man.. get well soon.. both you and your sister..

                But the point missed by Aryan here is the accidents caused by freak incidents like the one which I happened to be in detaled here Insurance help regarding crash with old lady - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community (or for that matter satyenpoojary's dog+open drain accident). In these situations, it is the rider who is labeled the bad guy, or having erred in concentration, or for that matter.. riding rash/negligently/fast. The accident has really left a mental block which is right now affecting my riding too much. It is impossible even to trust anybody on the road.

                My query to the community is, what can be done to educate the pedestrian when even well educated people commit similar mistakes to the one which cause my accident. In fact, in 35 days after my accident, with limited amount of riding (as i got my bike back only 3 days back), i have witnessed 2 similar incidents involving 2 other "educated" people (but luckily not resulting into accident). One of these incidents involved a Doctor (friend), in fact one of the doctors who had operated upon my patient (the "ineducated" woman I crashed into on 20th March) and she(Doctor) very well knew the consequences of doing such an action. (the "ineducated" woman was iin hospital till 14th April, i.e. for 25 days).

                It is not always the motorist who is at fault, though friends/family/doctors/police/judiciary may think otherwise. The motorist at least has a license to show for his riding, and in most cases, years of accident-free track record + thousands of kms of riding/driving experience to show. What kind of training/licensing did the pedestrian go through to warrant such careless behaviour on a National Highway.

                The above post was in defence of motorist who happened to be caught in freak unavoidable accidents but were later blamed for causing the damage to the other involved party/3rd party.(In my case, i was the motorist, the "uneducated" pedestrian was the "other involved party").
                Advice is a form of nostalgia.
                Dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it's worth.

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                • #23
                  ^^ exactly bro, even if the other party is at fault, peeps first attend them and then to the rider...and then say rider was at fault.....when this mindset will change? i dunno....

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                  • #24
                    @Bibhu - Sorry to hear your bad experience; didn't know such things happened when we met last time or did these incidents happen after our meets? Whatever, but I strongly vouch for the signal that you'd mentioned.

                    I cross that signal every morning around 7:15ish & find most morons are the Govt people; its a bang truth that the most law violaters are the Govt people themselves. I've witnessed even cop cars (Amby to Jeeps) not adheering to signals, talking on cellphone when IN DUTY & what not?

                    Anyway, my intention to drop a line here is to say that, most bikers fail to capture (its also true that most morons don't pay attention to bikers) the attention of other vehicles. So, when I approach a red signal, I usually put out my hand waving up & down (which is also to indicate slowing down), slow down the vehicle, watching the RVMs & pulling to left extreme or middle. Yes, its little difficult I know, but still, I do it for my own safety. Some morons, honk & pass through right, some morons honk behind & some morons yell. Never mind!!!

                    Another such place is the signal near Gurunanak College at Velachery 100ft road where there's no free left.
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                    Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
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                    • #25
                      Very aptly commented by @aryan. Though I would also like to add where the commuters have total disregard to safety. There are simply too many to begin describing them, so I will just comment on my latest experience.

                      Late last night, I was returning home on Eastern Express Highway (Mumbai) in my car. This road has pretty high speed traffic with rickshaws, trucks, bus 2 wheelers, cars etc. I saw the lights turn amber from quiet a distant and began slowing down (Note: Most will speed up when they see lights turn to amber. Just the opposite). I always keep an alert view of my rear view mirrors because I know how people translate the amber light. It has turned Red well before I reached the signal. There was some screeching of brakes behind me, It was a rickshaw, making evasive maneuver. Oh yes, I saw him from all along on my rear view mirror, and there was a good distant. I started applying brakes gently well in advance to warn him with my brake lights that I was slowing down and will be stopping at the signal. The rickshaw dude caught up quiet rapidly with the notion that I will be jumping the signal. Oh he was wrong. He must have been cursing me. And to think the lights has already turn Red before we could reach the signal. This guy simply went past me through the red light and to make it worse, so did more than 90% of the traffic. It was a scary moment as other traffic went past me at high speed.

                      In this case, all safety measures were in place. Proper signal lights that has good visibility from far off, yet....you know. This always happens. Most of the time. When I'm on two wheelers, I keep to the extreme left corner where there is least traffic while slowing down/stopping at signals on this stretch, at the same time keep an eye on my RVM. Another time, one lady on a scooter barely missed me and rammed straight on a stationary rickshaw that was just before me on the same stretched. Luckly there was no serious injury, but thats another story.

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                      • #26
                        Another thing that causes accidents is mobile phones. There have been lot of accidents when the drivers were on mobiles. I've personally seen an almost accident where a person speaking on the phone immediately turned and crossed the road without bothering to look for vehicles coming from behind. Luckliy for him the bus' power brakes were in good condition. The person came to know about the bus on hearing he screeching noise. The bus was pretty crowded and i'm pretty sure lotta people in the bus would've had some bruises or something.

                        We can't totally blame the government for accidents. They are trying their best. The people have to act accordingly. The government enforced the helmet rule for safety purpose alone. But what do people do? They take off the helmet once they are off the city limits. The government can't allocate a cop for every bike and follow him to check if he always has his helmet on, can they ? The government have put up board that says "Don't drink and drive" in every nook and corner but they can't stop and check each and every vehicle to see if the driver is drunk, can they ? True, they do check once a while and they do find culprits.

                        About truck drivers falling asleep, i dunno what to say. I think there's a rule stating that truck drivers are not allowed during daytime and thats why they drive only at night. Can't really blame anyone falling asleep at night. No matter what you do, you will fall sleepy. And riding for long hours at night is no fun. In daylight atleast you can look at the surroundings and stay 'not bored and sleepy' but theres pretty much nothing to do at night.



                        Originally posted by anants_220 View Post
                        since the day i got the xbhp sticker on my bike,everytime my immature brain tells me to jump a signal,i hold back,thinking that if people who represent a community i.e. the members,dont follow rules n regulations,how will we be able to bring about a change in the motorcycling scene in India.
                        way to go bro !
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by eliksir View Post
                          We can't totally blame the government...they do check once a while and they do find culprits.
                          Yes you're right; The Govt cannot...
                          1. Enforce stringent rules with RTO on issuing license
                          2. Enforce strong laws with driving schools & mandating people to pass driver's education & then pass the test
                          3. Increase the punishment or increase fine limits
                          4. Enforce cops to punish people who violate even for simply things such as stopping after stop line!!!
                          Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
                          Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
                          ATGATT + Awareness + Skill means you might Live To Ride another day

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by aargee View Post
                            Yes you're right; The Govt cannot...
                            1. Enforce stringent rules with RTO on issuing license
                            2. Enforce strong laws with driving schools & mandating people to pass driver's education & then pass the test
                            This ain't Utopia. Corruption exists in almost every office/dept in India. Again, people to be blamed.


                            Originally posted by aargee View Post
                            4. Enforce cops to punish people who violate even for simply things such as stopping after stop line!!!
                            Why cross the stop line ??? Atleast the government has put the stop line. why can't people go by the rules ?? Who is at fault ? the people or the government ?
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                            • #29
                              @Eliksir - ENFORCEMENT is the key!!! The Govt is the one to enforce things without which things will go on its own way like what is happening now. The Govt FAILS miserably to enforce the laws that are still on paper & that's the reason why such things happen.

                              Where there's a fear of punishment, there will be no mishaps. Have you ever seen someone waving at a train asking him to stop while he crosses the track? You can never. Why? He knows the train wouldn't stop & there will not be any case filed for justice & hence the fear. I'm not asking to do implement the same on road, but state that traffic laws be ENFORCED!!!
                              Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
                              Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
                              ATGATT + Awareness + Skill means you might Live To Ride another day

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                              • #30
                                lets say, you wake up late one day and in your hurry to office you jump a red light or cross the city speed limit. The cop stops you and fines you Rs 2000 (increased fine as you suggested). You pay the fine and be done with it.
                                After a few days, lets say you wake up late again (possible) or maybe you had a cold engine which took some time to start, or maybe you got bottled in the traffic. or maybe you had to take a diversion... or any of the million possibilities that made you cross the speed limit to reach office on time. Every time you do this would you be happy to pay Rs 2000 ? Would you at some stage try bribing the cop for a 100 bucks rather than 2000 ?
                                Maybe you wouldn't but the common man of the country would.

                                Now take the case of a cop. There is this honest cop who always fines 2000, as per the rules, everytime. Also he takes no bribe despite offers from the people. One day he meets some of his friend cops who are discussing how much money they made out of these bribe. Wouldn't he be tempted at some stage?
                                what should the government do ? employ another person to make sure that this person doesn't get corrupt ?
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