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  • #31


    Rules and Enforcement... My two cents of comic relief... and ofcourse if you could derive sense from it! Nothing like it!!

    There are rules and 'enforcement' which prohibits 'rape' ... Go back to the line and read it again. While you are at it pardon the pun of the word enforcement.

    So does that mean that a STRINGENT enforcement of the rule will ensure there ARENT any rape cases (or rape cases being reported? whichever is convenient to the rapist and the victim)

    Or does that mean that having NO real rule or NO STRINGENT enforcement would mean every women in this planet (make that beautifull women if you wish) would get raped?

    I guess the answer is a big fat No for both of them...

    Our conditioning is also an important aspect in the things we do, or we chose to do... So either keep crying as hard as you can for the lack of rule or the lack of strict imposition OR atleast ensure YOU follow them, and try and do your bit in making people follow them too! I did my bit!
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    • #32
      @satyenpoojary
      lol
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      • #33
        Originally posted by eliksir View Post
        lets say, you wake up late...the cop for a 100 bucks rather than 2000 ?
        Yes, I'll try to bribe the cop; the cop will charge me Rs 2000 for the jump & Rs XX or may be direct to court for trying to bribe - simple.

        Originally posted by eliksir View Post
        Maybe you wouldn't but the common man of the country would.
        Depends which country!!!!

        Originally posted by eliksir View Post
        Now take the case of a cop...to make sure that this person doesn't get corrupt ?
        Corruption is like a cancer in this country right from the top to bottom, if we were to talk about this, we would keep talking for centuries!!! That would be ranting. No point ranting or complaining unless one cannot change or be a part of it.

        Point - In this country, except population & aids all other things are declining including law. 1+ Billion people are thinking different ideas right from invention to jumping laws. No one can control them unless there's a strong force, which unfortunately the Govt is not playing.

        Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
        Rules and Enforcement... My two cents of comic relief... and ofcourse if you could derive sense from it! Nothing like it!!
        Sry Satyen, can you be more clear on your point; I couldn't make out anything concrete except that you're part of the system &

        Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
        So does that mean...rapist and the victim)
        It will bring down; I don't intent to say 0 defect, there should be law violaters & there still should be bad things happening. The good & the bad should coexist without which the entire system will collapse & that's what where we're heading.

        Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
        Or does that mean...would get raped?
        Nope; answered above

        Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
        Our conditioning is also an important...making people follow them too! I did my bit!
        That's exactly what I do; I start from me & do the change that I like to see instead of complaining on people. If law is enforced the results are quicker in action, that's my point.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
          :d

          rules and enforcement... my two cents of comic relief... And ofcourse if you could derive sense from it! Nothing like it!!

          there are rules and 'enforcement' which prohibits 'rape' ... go back to the line and read it again. while you are at it pardon the pun of the word enforcement.

          so does that mean that a stringent enforcement of the rule will ensure there arent any rape cases (or rape cases being reported? whichever is convenient to the rapist and the victim)

          or does that mean that having no real rule or no stringent enforcement would mean every women in this planet (make that beautifull women if you wish) would get raped?

          I guess the answer is a big fat no for both of them...

          Our conditioning is also an important aspect in the things we do, or we chose to do... So either keep crying as hard as you can for the lack of rule or the lack of strict imposition or atleast ensure you follow them, and try and do your bit in making people follow them too! I did my bit!


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          • #35
            Originally posted by aargee View Post
            That's exactly what I do; I start from me & do the change that I like to see instead of complaining on people. If law is enforced the results are quicker in action, that's my point.
            you could also stop complaining on the government too :P
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            • #36
              I have read a few posts here and cannot agree with you guys more! precisely why you all will see a very important thread from me in a short while.

              Let us be the ones who take the first step! Let us practice safe riding/driving ourselves first!

              Let us be the change we want to see on our roads.

              Together we can move mountains!

              The "ONUS" is "ON US"
              10 Commandments:
              1)Thank thy God for being alive.
              2)Thou shalt respect one's own life and the live's of other road users.
              3)Thou shalt respect one's own bike.
              4)Love thy bike as thy self.
              5)Always wear safety gear.
              6)Alcohol is a strict NO!
              7)Thou may lust after thy neighbour's bike specially if its of the R1 kind!
              8)Thou shalt ride with 'ultra-most' care and caution when on Indian roads.
              9)Thou shalt never leave the engine running at long traffic halts.
              10)Thou shalt follow all of the above.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by eliksir View Post
                you could also stop complaining on the government too :P
                That's not a complaint, that's the duty of any EFFECIENT Govt that collects tax to provide better quality of life to people, which they don't do.

                Besides, if everyone starts adhering to law, then there is no need for Govt.
                Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
                Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
                ATGATT + Awareness + Skill means you might Live To Ride another day

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                • #38
                  ^correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't the Govt. enforce the Law?
                  On a more serious note, we have to start things ourselves first!
                  10 Commandments:
                  1)Thank thy God for being alive.
                  2)Thou shalt respect one's own life and the live's of other road users.
                  3)Thou shalt respect one's own bike.
                  4)Love thy bike as thy self.
                  5)Always wear safety gear.
                  6)Alcohol is a strict NO!
                  7)Thou may lust after thy neighbour's bike specially if its of the R1 kind!
                  8)Thou shalt ride with 'ultra-most' care and caution when on Indian roads.
                  9)Thou shalt never leave the engine running at long traffic halts.
                  10)Thou shalt follow all of the above.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by 46wannabe View Post
                    ^correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't the Govt. enforce the Law?
                    Enforcement & rules are 2 different things; for instance, "do not smoke in public" is what the rule says. It is expected that everyone follows the rules, if someone violates, the Govt ENFORCES the law through designated people such as cops, lawyers, auditor. Hope you got the difference. Now answer, do these guys do their jobs? Is the enforcement in place?

                    Originally posted by 46wannabe View Post
                    On a more serious note, we have to start things ourselves first!
                    If all of us follow the rule book, there're no jobs for cops to clerks; that's why I said, the good & the bad should coexist. Even if one of them exist without the other, there will be a chaos, like what it is now.
                    Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
                    Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
                    ATGATT + Awareness + Skill means you might Live To Ride another day

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by aargee View Post
                      Enforcement & rules are 2 different things; for instance, "do not smoke in public" is what the rule says. It is expected that everyone follows the rules, if someone violates, the Govt ENFORCES the law through designated people such as cops, lawyers, auditor. Hope you got the difference. Now answer, do these guys do their jobs? Is the enforcement in place?



                      If all of us follow the rule book, there're no jobs for cops to clerks; that's why I said, the good & the bad should coexist. Even if one of them exist without the other, there will be a chaos, like what it is now.

                      Thank you for the explanation bro. Just what I wanted. yeah, these guys dont do their jobs. Which is why I feel that we need to take the first step. Which some of us here already have.


                      Cant agree with u more on the second part.
                      I would rather say that there should be a reversal of the % of good and bad.
                      Last edited by 46wannabe; 11-30-2010, 12:37 AM.
                      10 Commandments:
                      1)Thank thy God for being alive.
                      2)Thou shalt respect one's own life and the live's of other road users.
                      3)Thou shalt respect one's own bike.
                      4)Love thy bike as thy self.
                      5)Always wear safety gear.
                      6)Alcohol is a strict NO!
                      7)Thou may lust after thy neighbour's bike specially if its of the R1 kind!
                      8)Thou shalt ride with 'ultra-most' care and caution when on Indian roads.
                      9)Thou shalt never leave the engine running at long traffic halts.
                      10)Thou shalt follow all of the above.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by 46wannabe View Post
                        Cant agree with u more...good and bad.
                        That's exactly what I'm trying to say long, but ppl say I'm blaming Govt!!!

                        Its the DUTY of the Govt to protect their citizen & correct them when they do a mistake & my whole point here is that the DUTY is not done properly.

                        Even in western countries, mistakes do happen, but people are more afraid of the law & don't break them. But here? People do not even know if there's something called law. To most people law is court & not on road. Just one visit to a general ward or accident ward in Govt Hospital is sufficient to turn people's mindset upside down!!!

                        If no one bothers on traffic rules, then there's a chaos; if most people follow rules, then the Govt's job becomes easier & people's life merrier. If everyone starts following the rules, then still it becomes chaos!!!
                        Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
                        Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
                        ATGATT + Awareness + Skill means you might Live To Ride another day

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by aargee View Post
                          That's exactly what I'm trying to say long, but ppl say I'm blaming Govt!!!

                          Its the DUTY of the Govt to protect their citizen & correct them when they do a mistake & my whole point here is that the DUTY is not done properly.

                          Even in western countries, mistakes do happen, but people are more afraid of the law & don't break them. But here? People do not even know if there's something called law. To most people law is court & not on road. Just one visit to a general ward or accident ward in Govt Hospital is sufficient to turn people's mindset upside down!!!

                          If no one bothers on traffic rules, then there's a chaos; if most people follow rules, then the Govt's job becomes easier & people's life merrier. If everyone starts following the rules, then still it becomes chaos!!!
                          You are taking it too personal... No one said anything to you! You have an opinion, eli has his opinion... every one has theirs.... !

                          At the end of the day, its upto ones own self to be sensible .... Whether or not their is God\Government eyeing you!

                          Relax!
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                          #Give thy opinion, write em, dont throw em
                          #Everyone errs, accept it, defending/cribbing about it only makes it worse
                          #Dont defend a manufacturer as if you work for them
                          #Write. Think. If relevant hit submit. If not hit yourself
                          #Be kind in your choice of words, you never know who would make you gulp em
                          � Satyen Poojary

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
                            You are taking it too personal... No one said anything to you! You have an opinion, eli has his opinion... every one has theirs.... !
                            Araey no Satyen; all I was trying to say is...its not in ppl's hands, its in Govt's hands. Just like he'd his opinion, I also stated my opinion. True, I went a little on personal front.

                            Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
                            At the end of the day, its upto ones own self to be sensible .... Whether or not their is God\Government eyeing you!
                            Well, think about this, which is the most outrageous situation; someone does a drunk & drive & kills someone innocent on the road; the Govt punishes the drunkard for 1-2 years of imprisonment & cancelling his license. In this country, one can get another license from a different RTO or even a different state & he gains his status back. But what about the justice done to the victim who dies?

                            Is this with the hands of people or Govt? Unless the Govt eyes on what's going on, there will be more such horrible situations.
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                            Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
                            ATGATT + Awareness + Skill means you might Live To Ride another day

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