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    Hi, i just got a new zma r 4 days ago.
    I have been going through this forum and the internet for over a month for some gyaan on bikes.

    What has me a bit confused in the break in period... rather, the way on should ride a bike during that period

    google 'break in bike' and the 1st result you get makes a mockery of the owner's manual claim. In fact, there is this other school of thought which says riding the bike hard breaks it in better than the easy way given in the owner's manual.

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    Query Approved.
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    • #3
      Wll, There are two ways you could do it..

      1. Moto Tune it

      2. Go with your HH Manual

      It is completely left to you.. The choice is yours..
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      • #4
        Originally posted by raghavishere View Post
        Hi, i just got a new zma r 4 days ago.
        I have been going through this forum and the internet for over a month for some gyaan on bikes.

        What has me a bit confused in the break in period... rather, the way on should ride a bike during that period

        google 'break in bike' and the 1st result you get makes a mockery of the owner's manual claim. In fact, there is this other school of thought which says riding the bike hard breaks it in better than the easy way given in the owner's manual.

        what is your say at xBhp?
        You either break it in or run it in!

        Everyone has a story to claim that either of the 2 methods work brilliantly. Then there are other who have stories about how one method screwed the bike.

        In the end, do what you like man......it really doesn't make too much of a difference.

        PS: Or you could do what I did...tread the middle path i.e. best of both worlds. I runned in my ride breaking it....
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        • #5
          Since you say its a ZMA, I would say strictly ride below 60 without over or under revving till 1000kms. It should do. After 1000kms./1st Service, start slowly taking her gradually&consistently to higher speeds with gradual&smooth accelaration. No high-speed bursts. Slowly you can start using her as you like after say 2-3K kms.
          Quench my thirst with gasoline!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ananth View Post
            Wll, There are two ways you could do it..

            1. Moto Tune it

            hei ananth... is this true... i never heard it like this and is this type break-in is applicable only for those SBK's... i trust u it is from a likely source... and the main question....

            Did u break-in ur bike like this way... can i try it(my FZ16 is only 1200km now)... seems to be interesting guys... just check out the link...

            Anyways thanks ananth for that link...
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Binoy View Post
              hei ananth... is this true... i never heard it like this and is this type break-in is applicable only for those SBK's... i trust u it is from a likely source... and the main question....

              Did u break-in ur bike like this way... can i try it(my FZ16 is only 1200km now)... seems to be interesting guys... just check out the link...

              Anyways thanks ananth for that link...
              First of all: The site is NOT for Indian bikes. Even the so called 'street' bikes mentioned there were 650cc. I feel the manual for Indian bikes is the best thing to follow for running-in.
              The higher powered bikes need a 'break-in'&most of them are done so on the dyno before being delivered to the customer.
              I think we can forget about this link, else we will be ruining our Indian bikes.
              Quench my thirst with gasoline!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by raghavishere View Post
                Hi, i just got a new zma r 4 days ago.
                I have been going through this forum and the internet for over a month for some gyaan on bikes.

                What has me a bit confused in the break in period... rather, the way on should ride a bike during that period

                google 'break in bike' and the 1st result you get makes a mockery of the owner's manual claim. In fact, there is this other school of thought which says riding the bike hard breaks it in better than the easy way given in the owner's manual.

                what is your say at xBhp?
                Manual ways are too boring....

                Did 50kmph for first 500kms
                60kmph till 700kms
                Finally could not bear it and started doing 100kmph+ and 10k rpm from 900kms onwards..

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by raghavishere View Post
                  Hi, i just got a new zma r 4 days ago.
                  I have been going through this forum and the internet for over a month for some gyaan on bikes.

                  What has me a bit confused in the break in period... rather, the way on should ride a bike during that period

                  google 'break in bike' and the 1st result you get makes a mockery of the owner's manual claim. In fact, there is this other school of thought which says riding the bike hard breaks it in better than the easy way given in the owner's manual.

                  what is your say at xBhp?
                  Well, the break in as mentioned by Mototune is indeed the way to do it.
                  My Karizma is proof of that, 04' model and goes like a Ballistic missile...

                  The Thing is to load the engine so that the mating internal part seat well and get machined(smoothened)

                  Do not drive the bike at any constant speed, vary the engine speed as much as possible with bursts to speeds above 60kmph...nearing the 500km mark have the bike do a couple of 100kmph bursts. Acceleration and abrupt decceleration is imporatant to load the engine. After this, an immediate oil change(this is very crucial and important!!!) and your bike is ready to burn some rubber.

                  P.S: Go with mineral oil blends, Castrol Active4T or Shell Ultra.
                  Ping me if you need any specific info!
                  Last edited by Akkiben; 03-11-2009, 09:08 PM.
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                  TVS-Suzuki Shogun CAT(1998) Sold :(
                  TVS Scooty ES(2001)
                  Hero Honda Karizma ZMR(2010)
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                  RX135 5S(2000)
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                  • #10
                    i have changed my uni's rings now at 18k should i ride it fast to break in like in full rpm?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by sreerama View Post
                      i have changed my uni's rings now at 18k should i ride it fast to break in like in full rpm?
                      The piston rings were changed propably due to a compression loss.
                      Your bike has done 18K already, the "break-in" process mentioned above is for new bikes.
                      However, the loadin of the engine as mentioned by me above could be implied. Do not reach full rpm for now or for the next few hundred kms, untill the piston rings seat.
                      Kinetic Honda ZX(2001)
                      Hero Honda CD100(1997)
                      TVS-Suzuki Shogun CAT(1998) Sold :(
                      TVS Scooty ES(2001)
                      Hero Honda Karizma ZMR(2010)
                      RX135 4S(2000)
                      RX135 5S(2000)
                      IND-SUZUKI AX100(1985)
                      LML-VESPA NV(1990) Sold
                      TVS-Suzuki Shogun(1994)

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                      • #12
                        well i've anyways yielded to my temptations more than a couple of time now.

                        what i do make sure every time, is that I warm up the engine properly before letting loose.

                        i use kick start only with choke for 20-30s after being parked for prolonged period...
                        then ride it gently through rev range for each gear for 1-2 kms.

                        then try gradual acc/deacc - eleration

                        and then ride normally for a good few minutes.

                        now once i feel the engine warmed up enough after 10-15 mins, i sometimes find myself doing 5.5K rpms ~ 80 km/h on the speedo at top gear.

                        the problem with zma is that even 80 seems too slow :P
                        Tough Times Never Last.
                        Tough People Do.

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                        • #13
                          ^^^You shouldn't use the choke unless its not possible to start without it! For most bikes its required only on the 1st start for the day in v cold weather.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Raccoon View Post
                            ^^^You shouldn't use the choke unless its not possible to start without it! For most bikes its required only on the 1st start for the day in v cold weather.
                            +1 to that! If you make your bike used to starting with choke, she'll refuse to start without it. Like I never made any of my bikes used to it&they start even after 15 days in a single kick!
                            Quench my thirst with gasoline!

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                            • #15
                              Run Ins!!

                              One of the most painstaking processes for a rider. I have run in 4 bikes till date and each time figured out more and more.

                              The first bike (more like moped) that I ran in was a Hero Puch. Now I do remember keeping the bike under 40kmph (lol, when top speed was 65kmph) for most of the time riding round the city. The deal there was to use 2T oil with petrol being a 2stroke with no seperate oil sump for the same purpose... Even back then I used to take the bike out onto the highway on dhabha runs and would actually ride the bike at 65kmph (a.k.a top speed lolz) during the run in as well.. No issues there, but then over a period of 2 years of useage did realise the bike was so so so so much smoother than other hero puchs that were run in the manual way!!

                              Then came the Caliber that was pretty much one of the most awesome 100cc bike I have ridden. Same deal, city riding under the prescribed speed limit on the manual. High way runs would have me not runnin hard in 1-3 gears but gradually pushing it up to 95kmph (on the clock, so dunno what true speed would be) for lenghts of 2-4km and then back to 60's..
                              Again same thing, other calibers were noticeably slower and rougher in comparision

                              Machismo 5s scared the living day lights outta me the first time I decided to open throttle during run in. Solid lurches forward with no intention of slowing down. But being in old skool engine territory I never pushed the bike during run in beyond 2-3 times initially.. the result, post 80 the bike struggled to hit higher speeds post the run in.. So pretty much went back to the basics of running in all over again.. gradually pushing in every gear on the highway and over a period of time managed a 126kmph (on the clock again).. Never had engine issues with the bike.

                              Younger brothers Unicorn, the engine took a major beating with gears chipping off and shredding each other because low oil due oil burning due to piston rings getting fried over a period of time due to bad run in and 100% abuse of the engine.. 100% abuse as in riding at max speed 117kmph(on the clock) for delayed lenghts of time.. No warm ups, full throttle blasts at any given time.. Result damage to every moving part in the engine as metal shard moved around with the oil.
                              So after pretty much replacing almost every moving part in the engine I took the bike to masinagudi, ooty and coimbatore for the run in.

                              first hour of riding was at 60kmph, next hour at 70kmph, next at 80kmph with short bursts of 2-3 km between 90 and 100kmph (on the clock).
                              on a never ending journey... a journey of learning!!

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