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  • ankitshringi
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    Ahh! yes the TWISTER!! I remember getting astride one when the movie Dhoom was released here and it was showcased in a multiplex. One of my school-friend's dad had the twister but sold it off a few years back and bought him a Honda Magna instead (Hope i spelled the name correctly).

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  • jayprashanth
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    India is shining.

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  • Rajkumar11
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    Originally posted by ken cool View Post
    You WHAT!!!! Are you allowed to divulge such things? This is crazy. Anyway, thanks for letting me know. How good do you think is the bike? What is the torque curve like? After you tested, did you find heating issues? Is it a downtube frame or a twin spar? I think it is a single downtube. If it is the CB 250, then it is 18.5 Bhp with 18 Nm of Torque. It they have tweaked it for a 25Bhp output, then may Glory bless them!
    You got me wrong. I am only testing the tyres meant for the bike not the bike itself. I have no clue as to the exact specs of the bike except what was already mentioned in my previous post. Just a long shot ,the bike may resemble the CB250 Twister made for the Brazalian market. Check out the link below.
    http://www.bikeandquadmart.co.za/for...-id-57847.aspx
    Last edited by Rajkumar11; 08-24-2009, 07:55 PM.

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  • srini
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    Originally posted by Rajkumar11 View Post
    i say this with authority because I am testing tyres made specially for the bike. Exact specs for the bike have not been disclosed but for the sake of tyre testing this is the information given: 250cc four stroke, around 25bhp, monoshock, 50/50 front/rear weight distribution,max speed 180kmph???
    The tyres that we are testing are front tyre 100/80-17 and rear 140/70-17.
    The max speed sounds optimestic but one never knows. My guess is a four stroke single in the lines of Brazilian CB250 twister.
    so the launch should happen in mid 2010 considering the tyres are already under testing.Why is HMSI so cunning???...

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  • abhijeet080808
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    This is great news. As they say, when it rains it pours! Hope, we do not have to wait till 2011!

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  • ken cool
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    Originally posted by Rajkumar11 View Post
    @ken- here is some news that might cheer you up a bit. Honda(not HH) will be releasing a 250 cc bike in the near future. i say this with authority because I am testing tyres made specially for the bike. Exact specs for the bike have not been disclosed but for the sake of tyre testing this is the information given: 250cc four stroke, around 25bhp, monoshock, 50/50 front/rear weight distribution,max speed 180kmph???
    The tyres that we are testing are front tyre 100/80-17 and rear 140/70-17.
    The max speed sounds optimestic but one never knows. My guess is a four stroke single in the lines of Brazilian CB250 twister.
    You WHAT!!!! Are you allowed to divulge such things? This is crazy. Anyway, thanks for letting me know. How good do you think is the bike? What is the torque curve like? After you tested, did you find heating issues? Is it a downtube frame or a twin spar? I think it is a single downtube. If it is the CB 250, then it is 18.5 Bhp with 18 Nm of Torque. It they have tweaked it for a 25Bhp output, then may Glory bless them!

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  • Ricci
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    180km/h is way optimistic. Finally someone's ready to crack the 225cc ceiling.

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  • Rajkumar11
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    @ken- here is some news that might cheer you up a bit. Honda(not HH) will be releasing a 250 cc bike in the near future. i say this with authority because I am testing tyres made specially for the bike. Exact specs for the bike have not been disclosed but for the sake of tyre testing this is the information given: 250cc four stroke, around 25bhp, monoshock, 50/50 front/rear weight distribution,max speed 180kmph???
    The tyres that we are testing are front tyre 100/80-17 and rear 140/70-17.
    The max speed sounds optimestic but one never knows. My guess is a four stroke single in the lines of Brazilian CB250 twister.

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  • pads
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    Originally posted by ken cool View Post
    Good you read through all of it.

    How I wish. This is precisely the point of the article.
    your writing skills are too good to avoid........ n the topping part was done by hash101 .......

    Originally posted by hash101 View Post
    @pads: Thanks for the appreciation. feels great to know that you found the thread good enough to spend 4 days on it! Your avatar guess is quite close. It does refer to the thing that you are probably thinking. However, I used to like that thing earlier untill one day i decided to quit. It's been a few clean years now. During those days I got into a habit of using hash101 as user name on most websites. I guess even though i have kicked the real thing, it's still got me hooked in the cyberspace!
    ......... the past never leaves you........ good to hear you kicked the thing out of your life......... n now enjoy the legend of your name ...........


    about the kolkata-siliguri thing, I haven't really driven on that road ( a confession: I haven't really driven on most roads of India. I am what you call an armchair expert, I guess). But I have to say that there are a lot of roads out there in India that are equally bad. let's face it, when you buy an sbk in India you make a conscious decision to rough it out, take the good with the bad. You have to do this because india is still a poor country and hence it stands to reason that it's money must be spent on making roads that reach the remotest of villages. even if it means that the roads are only good enough for driving at 60kmph. i would rather take that than be driving on an indian autobahn while the majority of india does not have the roads.
    that road is like the vein between the two cities......... so I mentioned it......... yes the roads are not upto mark in some places......... but atleast these are changing.......... slowly but changing.........


    anyway, just read through the baby ninja thread where I saw a lot of whining about the price and dials,etc.. This just reinforces one of the things that i had said in my first post here. A lot of people say that they will buy a bike at a particular price. They do this because they rest safe in the knowledge that they are being merely asked whether they would consider buying it at that price. They know that no one is going to force them to buy the bike at that price later just because they said so earlier.
    There may be a lot pf people who may have completely justifiable reasons. But I find it amusing that earlier the people just couldn't wait to get their hands on the baby ninja. Now that the baby ninja release looks in the offing and we have a speculated price of 3L, a lot of those very people think that it's "just a 30cc upgrade at the cost of 2.2 extra dough". I guess if we follow the same thought then there are a lot of 100cc bikes out there which can be bought at around 40k. Does that mean that the people who bought R15 were idiots because they paid 80k more for just and additional 50cc? I think this is just a refined version of the sour grapes situation.
    bingo........ just to the point........ its like 'the grapes are sour' ..........

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  • abhijeet080808
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    Originally posted by hash101 View Post
    I think this is just a refined version of the sour grapes situation.
    LOL! You got it spot on!

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  • hash101
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    @pads: Thanks for the appreciation. feels great to know that you found the thread good enough to spend 4 days on it! Your avatar guess is quite close. It does refer to the thing that you are probably thinking. However, I used to like that thing earlier untill one day i decided to quit. It's been a few clean years now. During those days I got into a habit of using hash101 as user name on most websites. I guess even though i have kicked the real thing, it's still got me hooked in the cyberspace!
    about the kolkata-siliguri thing, I haven't really driven on that road ( a confession: I haven't really driven on most roads of India. I am what you call an armchair expert, I guess). But I have to say that there are a lot of roads out there in India that are equally bad. let's face it, when you buy an sbk in India you make a conscious decision to rough it out, take the good with the bad. You have to do this because india is still a poor country and hence it stands to reason that it's money must be spent on making roads that reach the remotest of villages. even if it means that the roads are only good enough for driving at 60kmph. i would rather take that than be driving on an indian autobahn while the majority of india does not have the roads.

    I mean no offence here and I realise that I may be speaking without actually having seen the complete picture but i just saw the roads in the pakistan sbk thread. The roads were just awesome. I wonder how much of the money from humanitarian aid that pakistan receives each year went into making and maintaining these even as the poor there are living a life of misery. Some may disagree but that's okay, I am a huge believer of inclusive growth and seeing the way things are changing around me, I am very hopeful believer.

    anyway, just read through the baby ninja thread where I saw a lot of whining about the price and dials,etc.. This just reinforces one of the things that i had said in my first post here. A lot of people say that they will buy a bike at a particular price. They do this because they rest safe in the knowledge that they are being merely asked whether they would consider buying it at that price. They know that no one is going to force them to buy the bike at that price later just because they said so earlier.
    There may be a lot pf people who may have completely justifiable reasons. But I find it amusing that earlier the people just couldn't wait to get their hands on the baby ninja. Now that the baby ninja release looks in the offing and we have a speculated price of 3L, a lot of those very people think that it's "just a 30cc upgrade at the cost of 2.2 extra dough". I guess if we follow the same thought then there are a lot of 100cc bikes out there which can be bought at around 40k. Does that mean that the people who bought R15 were idiots because they paid 80k more for just and additional 50cc? I think this is just a refined version of the sour grapes situation.
    Last edited by hash101; 08-22-2009, 01:18 PM.

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  • ken cool
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    Originally posted by pads View Post
    this took a whole 4 days to complete the whole thread ........
    Good you read through all of it.

    Originally posted by pads View Post
    n if What Next ----- hmmmmmm......... ok Baby Ninja will be there....... so next is there and we may see some competition too ........ so what next maybe 400cc........
    How I wish. This is precisely the point of the article.

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  • pads
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    this took a whole 4 days to complete the whole thread ........

    @ken ---- as always, its good to read your thread.......
    @hash101 ---- first of all very lovely points by you........ it was more than informative....... it may make a person think for his demand......... have few doubts but not here.........
    n one more thing(OT)-- your avatar name........ is this the same thing which we like ........
    @mindgrinder ----- few good points by you too.......

    this thread is too goooooood.........

    one thing @ken & @hash (pls dnt take it otherwise)----- have you people tried the road between Kolkata n Siliguri........ few of the xbhp-ians tried and they were surprised....... just putting this after reading that ken did 700km in 7hrs (we all know you travel a lot & its good to read your tavelogue)....... can any1 do this stretch of 600kms in 8hrs ........
    (just kidding ken)

    n if What Next ----- hmmmmmm......... ok Baby Ninja will be there....... so next is there and we may see some competition too ........ so what next maybe 400cc........

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  • shrinathrao
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    great explanation

    Originally posted by Technician View Post
    Was out of loop.



    I know nothing in your comparison. You must be joking.

    But let me try. Internationally, all current modern bikes below 600 cc are single cylinder with liquid cooling mostly used as dirt bikes and dual purpose machines. Many of them have modern inputs like FI, four valves etc. Notable exceptions are Honda VTR and Baby Ninja which are twin cylinder and are sports bike.

    Well all the above single cylinder bikes are using either 96 X 62(450), 85 X 75(450), 74 X 62(250), or near identical specs, where bore is more than 1.2 times of the stroke. The road going sports bikes of all sizes have even shorter stroke in comparison to their bores with the exception of Yamaha Dragstar 250 (44 X 66 Twin) . So you got my point. Short stroke in comparison to bore. With the single cylinder, the cost can be kept quite low for production in India. In a single cylinder configuration, the bore (62 mm or more) would still make good torque in comparison to what is available on Indian bikes. As I hope.
    great xplanation, this should be gone and explained to those R&D people who sleep in their labs giving us this all outdated models with just fairing changes.

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  • Technician
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    Was out of loop.

    How short will you make your stroke for a single mill 400CC? Your initial Torque curve will be very flat for the first 4K rpm! Correct me if I am wrong, you are the Technician.
    I know nothing in your comparison. You must be joking.

    But let me try. Internationally, all current modern bikes below 600 cc are single cylinder with liquid cooling mostly used as dirt bikes and dual purpose machines. Many of them have modern inputs like FI, four valves etc. Notable exceptions are Honda VTR and Baby Ninja which are twin cylinder and are sports bike.

    Well all the above single cylinder bikes are using either 96 X 62(450), 85 X 75(450), 74 X 62(250), or near identical specs, where bore is more than 1.2 times of the stroke. The road going sports bikes of all sizes have even shorter stroke in comparison to their bores with the exception of Yamaha Dragstar 250 (44 X 66 Twin) . So you got my point. Short stroke in comparison to bore. With the single cylinder, the cost can be kept quite low for production in India. In a single cylinder configuration, the bore (62 mm or more) would still make good torque in comparison to what is available on Indian bikes. As I hope.

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