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  • #31
    Just A short Inci(ACCI)dent !!!

    I'll keep it short.
    This morning, Me and my bike nearly missed a moron,riding without helmet, on the wrong side of the road,totally opposite to the traffic and of-course WITHOUT HELMET...SCREEEECH... i applied both brakes but 'nearly' fell (leg guard just touched the tarmac) because front wheel wasn't straight at that time...he zoomed passed me zig-zaging while i was lifting up my bike right in middle of the road...

    I was wearing a helmet(obviously) at that time and I strictly obey traffic rules.

    So what i want to say is, if we are the one who follow traffic rules and regulations; then why we fall , we meet accidents (which are deadly sometimes) and ''THEY'' remain safe (most of the time)???
    WHY?
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    • #32
      Originally posted by badbikerboy View Post
      So what i want to say is, if we are the one who follow traffic rules and regulations; then why we fall , we meet accidents (which are deadly sometimes) and ''THEY'' remain safe (most of the time)???
      WHY?
      Because in India..the Bad always escapes and the Good always Pays!!!

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      • #33
        Well just that it seems that the ones who practice safe riding meet with unfortunate incidents, its mainly because our numbers are low, so even if one meets with a fatality it makes an impact on everyone else. We're a close knit group so it matters a lot. If we total the no.of mishaps on xbhp it'd be dwarfed by an individual city's tolls. Its quite relative and hence we feel that despite being safe and applying common sense, fate is cruel.

        Over a lakh fatalities are reported in India in road accidents. Do we see the discussion on them ? I'd conclude that 80% of them were due to human error, or the vehicles failing due to bad maintainance. One lakh is a really big number. Everyday in the paper you're bound to see a road fatality.

        Now coming to my point, its a game of survival, wearing riding gear increases chances of survival, but its not sureproof. It wont save you if you fall off a curvy mountain road or ram into a wall at speeds, that's obvious. Wearing riding gear doesnt permit you to rip at higher speeds, it increases the chances of saving you at the speed you were currently at. If you really are sure that your gear can handle impact at certain higher speeds, then you could go. Just having a CE approved armour and a DOT helmet doesnt mean its the best. I hardly know how much impact my own riding gear is designed for.


        My take:
        Just be outright pessimistic on the road, for example imagine that the dog on the side is waiting for you come and then it'd jump in front of you. It just takes one decision for what to do. Intuition may help, but that's upto each individual.

        Another example: There'sa car on the side of a highway, and you're doing 100+ in the right lane. Probably no danger here ?

        Quite wrong. What if the car just starts off, without any indication of doing so, cuts into your lane and moves in a turtle like pace ? Can one really brake in time? People really dont know how to cut across lanes, most of the times a car / bike will come halfway into a road from a sideroad / crossroad making you slam the brakes.

        Most of the road users assume that a bike doesnt move that fast, and fail to asses the speed a speeding biker is coming, even they dont want to kill you really or be killed themselves. Its just a matter of wrong judgement of one making the other take corrective measure. Basically I, as a biker must compensate for everyone else's fault, because whosever fault it might be, I'd have to pay the consequences heavily even if it wasn't my fault.

        I've ridden enough to realise that you have to be pessimistic to the core on Indian roads. Enjoy the roads while doing this. That's pretty much what I do.

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        • #34
          ^^^+1
          but it's better to take care.We are responsible for ourselves and others at the end of the day.Safety gears,crash guards etc etc may not be completely able to avoid mishaps but it prevents it to some extent atleast...And talking about Indian roads,god save it.Always expect the unexpected should be our mantra while riding...Most people on road have absolutely no road sense but we have learnt to leave with it for long now.I'm trying to voice out whatever you said buddy...Hope some miracle is on the horizon...
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          • #35
            The saying "HELMET SAVES LIVES" stands true for me as some days back i was going back home after a long tiring day at the office, i was on a speed of 40 as road was in a bad condition, suddenly a 2 wheeler biker came behind me and started honking like mad with some stupid horn, he was doing this even when he had enough space to go ahead, suddenly he came from left and tried overtaking me and in all this time, his handle entangled with my handle causing a crash, i was lucky enough as i had wore a Studds Ninaja helmet or the gravel on unconstructed road would have tasted my brains meat. People from closeby shop came to see if everything was fine i woke up and saw that moron got up kicked up his bike and ran away.

            I wish if the government gives us permission to hit such idiots something like ROADRASH

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            • #36
              ^^^ Don't forget to replace your accident-met helmet.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Sava View Post
                ^^^ Don't forget to replace your accident-met helmet.

                yes i did it the very next month

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                • #38
                  Guys i just want to ask question....

                  why in any accident people claims a proper geared (with helmet golves etc..)
                  rider over a non geared rider...

                  me and my friend were going home after our classes (i on my bike and my friend on his) we got helmets and gloves on, my friend was hit by a splendor moron ,he was barely 16 or 17 yrs riding rash in burmuda ...
                  everyone saw he was ripping his bike in market place and hit my friend..
                  soon we were surrounded by crowd and every one was blaming me and my friend for that accident...
                  although my frien was not injured but that boy was....
                  somehow we managed to come out safely from that crowd otherwise their intensions were not seemed good (they looked like take me and my fried out beating)

                  so my question is what is big deal with the people why they act like a$$holes in such situation...
                  and what to do about it???

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                  • #39
                    well... he who screams the loudest first for a fairly decent amount of time... is usually right!

                    so u need to make sure u reach the required decibel levels before that crowd gathers!
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Old Fox View Post
                      Just was surfing through the forums, got this. Wonderful and highly knowledgeble words there sir. Guess im reviving an 2 year old thread.

                      Originally posted by Sunny View Post
                      Now I ask all the parents and people who try to be role models by asking youngsters not to ride motorcycles because they are dangerous! They do not need your words of wisdom by labeling one of the most widespread and recognized mode of leisure and transport as Evil. The underlying message that I want to convey is that you dont increase the chances of getting hurt in life by riding a motorcycle. There are more advantages then disadvantages. Haven't people died in expensive cars, SUVs, buses or planes?
                      Well tried explaining this fact loads and loads of times, but no one never listens. Its like they have watermarked biking as "Dangerous" and will never learn no matter how many examples are put forward in front of them.
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                      • #41
                        Riding Gears

                        I started riding when I was 15 and I am now 59....I became aware of the Helmet only in the 80s, through a friend who was into racing,and realized it's Value...I bought my first helmet in the 80s and it is still with me..It is a Simpson make Helmet.I started using it at a time when Helmets were not compulsory and people used to ask me why I am wearing it,is it because of fashion ,or I am taking part in Races ,or trying to show off ? I used to patiently explain each time....the reason..?
                        I had met with many accidents due to speeding in city and not being able to judge the other road user's moves...every time i will had bleeding injuries to my palm,elbows,knees and hips(no body protection at that time)..but every time my Helmet saved my head from going to smithereens. No individual component of a safety gear is as important as a Helmet.
                        No amount of emphasis is enough in making the Helmet mandatory..Helmet has a purpose.....It is there to safeguard the Skull and the brain within....to prevent Death and to prevent people becoming a Vegetable through brain injury.
                        Last edited by psr; 02-18-2011, 11:11 PM.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by psr View Post
                          I started riding when I was 15 and I am now 59....I became aware of the Helmet only in the 80s, through a friend who was into racing,and realized it's Value...I bought my first helmet in the 80s and it is still with me..It is a Simpson make Helmet.I started using it at a time when Helmets were not compulsory and people used to ask me why I am wearing it,is it because of fashion ,or I am taking part in Races ,or trying to show off ? I used to patiently explain each time....the reason..?
                          I had met with many accidents due to speeding in city and not being able to judge the other road user's moves...every time i will had bleeding injuries to my palm,elbows,knees and hips(no body protection at that time)..but every time my Helmet saved my head from going to smithereens. No individual component of a safety gear is as important as a Helmet.
                          No amount of emphasis is enough in making the Helmet mandatory..Helmet has a purpose.....It is there to safeguard the Skull and the brain within....to prevent Death and to prevent people becoming a Vegetable through brain injury.
                          Well still the sad part is that people just don't understand, they see so many accidents on the road, still no fear is entering into their mind, wonder how that is possible. Heck, i'm in a situation where i cant convince my parents to get me protective gear, even if i stress its advantages.I'm not earning yet, so i'm saving my pocket money for it myself,as of now its still a far reach but ill get it eventually.
                          Some buy great helmets alright , but just put it on the tank or hook it on the RVM's, its just for avoiding the police they say, no matter how much explanation gets into their head to realize that its better to put it on to save their sorry ass head.Weird breed of people we have here in India.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by krish2778 View Post
                            Well still the sad part is that people just don't understand, they see so many accidents on the road, still no fear is entering into their mind, wonder how that is possible. Heck, i'm in a situation where i cant convince my parents to get me protective gear, even if i stress its advantages.I'm not earning yet, so i'm saving my pocket money for it myself,as of now its still a far reach but ill get it eventually.
                            Some buy great helmets alright , but just put it on the tank or hook it on the RVM's, its just for avoiding the police they say, no matter how much explanation gets into their head to realize that its better to put it on to save their sorry ass head.Weird breed of people we have here in India.
                            Sad indeed, I had also noticed with many riders in Chennai the same thing....Why don't you ask for raise in monthly allowance ,what with cost of everything increasing,a guy got to have something to put into his pocket ...and Petrol price going high ...and save up to get your head gear...don't go for cheap ones..less than a 1,000/- .... and go for a full face Helmet.It saves your face totally if you should fall(God forbid) and you don't need to have early Dinner of Flies in late evening drives.
                            Last edited by psr; 02-23-2011, 03:54 PM.
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by psr View Post
                              Sad indeed, I had also noticed with many riders in Chennai the same thing....Why don't you ask for raise in monthly allowance ,what with cost of everything increasing,a guy got to have something to put into his pocket ...and Petrol price going high ...and save up to get your head gear...don't go for cheap ones..less than a 1,000/- .... and go for a full face Helmet.It saves your face totally if you should fall(God forbid) and you don't need to have early Dinner of Flies in late evening drives.
                              lol..!! Yeah, People wear helmets that has lost it inner padding and dont even put on the clip. So in effect hey have put on a helmet but it gives no protection at all.
                              About price rise and allowance thats all i have to say,
                              +1 on the full face helmet thing.I myself have half faced one and i rarely use it that way.
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                              • #45
                                my experience

                                reading through whole thread i can't stop myself to share my personal experience..i got into college last year & the bus service & even the condition of the buses are really poor..it took more than an hour to complete a distance of 23 kms(my college distance).buses could stop anywhwere due to overheating of engine or any other failure.me & one of my friend go together to college.we both decided to convince our parents to buy us a mutual bike so that we can use it for the college purpose..but they refused by saying that buses are more safe than bikes.i explain them that it dosen't take a splendor or a luxury sedan to put you in trouble..but they just refused even when buses consume a lot of time..it is also b'coz they are not aware of proper riding gear.events for awarness of proper riding must be organized even in small cities & towns..
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