Re: Slippage of tyre Pulsar 220F

You should check for the below things

1. Rear wheel bearings
2. Piston condition inside the rear brake caliper

I had this wheel jamming issue, since I own a 220 as well. Upon inspection the culprit was the damaged piston inside the caliper and few rubber O rings were damaged. You can first try the basic troubleshooting and later look for costly solutions.

Getting the bybre caliper will be a costly affair, close to 3K.

When new brake pads are installed the piston inside the caliper has to be pushed inside with a specialized tool. The SVC uses a plier to push the piston inside which damages the surface of the piston and the rubber O ring covering it becomes useless, hence the piston is stuck at one place when the brake is applied.

Cheers,
Sanjay

Re: Slippage of tyre Pulsar 220F


Great help man ! Now I can specifically say the SVC guys to look upon this thing. The biggest problem you know with bajaj is that SVC guys are hardly able to find the problem in 220, and they will just say in 5 minutes that " sir isme to kuch nhi kar skte hum, replace krna pdega ". Really fed up of listening this thing to every SVC I have visited till date in Pune and Bangalore.

Re: Slippage of tyre Pulsar 220F

Just came across this interesting thread....

I will not be surprised if someone fell down from a pulsar after panic braking.And this is not uncommon...Please excuse me if i sounded harsh.

One can owe it to the heavy front and strong,non progressive front brakes(and to some extent bad/hard tyres as well) in comparison to that of Hero,Honda or Yamaha's.
Which will easily cause tail wagging (if 70:30 is not used) and thus lose grip. Unfortunately, the dramatic end result is either a stoppie or a fall.

This is the reason that has put me off from buying a P220.

The only thing that you could hope for in such situations is to somehow manage to keep the handle straight while panic braking, else one is destined to fall.
I would prefer a stoppie to a fall anyday. I know I am talking as if I am Rossi, but its no cakewalk.

As an alternative one could also use the engine braking and repetitively jam and release brakes to prevent front wheel locking.

I also noticed that the tail wagging reduces on panic braking with a pillion as the heavy front bias is neutralized.

Also, ride a Honda CBR/R15/Fz/Gixxer, to see how the bike behaves under real hard braking. The bike squeals but it still is very much composed with very less tail wagging(w.r.t to dry tarmac, varies on different surfaces).

P.S. : This is purely from my perspective and experience, might vary from person to person. Please feel free to share any other techniques that could be used, as even I am not a 'Rossi/Chris Pfeiffer'.

Re: Slippage of tyre Pulsar 220F

Could you put some braking info about Pulsar 180 and Apache ABS ?

Re: Slippage of tyre Pulsar 220F

Sorry Sandeep, I have never ridden either bike, so i am not the best to comment. I have never ridden a bike with ABS,in fact I am eagerly waiting for RTR200 ABS.

But the feel on P180 might be similar to old P200/P220 as the front fork and disc brake dimensions are same.

If you are asking which amongst P180 and RTR 180 ABS is better/safer in terms of braking, then RTR180 ABS is a no brainer choice.
Theoretically, any bike with ABS wins over a bike without ABS in terms of safety, as the probability of wheel locking is very less. Specifically, in case of a bike with Dual channel ABS like RTR180 ABS.

Hope this info helps.

Re: Slippage of tyre Pulsar 220F

Old Pulsars had a tendency to lock the wheels with the slightest touch at the lever due to uneven force supplied on the brake assy. They used KBX systems then. Later, Bybre units (a bettered version, and to show off by saying it's Brembo's sister concern) improved upon the previous units. Bybre units are good, however not as trouble free as NISSIN units.
RTR series uses Gabriel units (with Bosch ABS) and they're in a league of their own.

Off topic: Have you owned a Karizma ever? Just that your ID/handle made me think so!

Re: Slippage of tyre Pulsar 220F

Bang On!!!Sharan.
I used it for a while,sadly I had to sell it off while I was switching job/city. Still hunting for a new bike that could replace an all rounder like ZMA.