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  • #1

    Shock Absorbers

    Hi,

    I am owning 1998 model 350CC STD Royal Enfield. My rear shock up are in bad shape and I need to replace it asap. I am confused between hydraulic shockup and gas filled shockup.

    Some one told me that Gas filled shock up are

    1. Costly (apprx 1800INR)
    2. Not Long lasting
    3. has frequent gas leakage problem
    4. On high speed bike bables
    5. On bumpi roads it become hot

    on the other hand

    the classic shockup are

    1. relatively cheap (800 INR)
    2. Hard and does not give good feel
    3. last long

    Can any one suggest, if the above points are true.

    Also which shockup to go with.

    Thanks

    Regards
    Sujeet
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    • #3
      Go for Gas setup, you'll not regret. If Gas doesn't last long, RE wouldn't be using them in their newer models. Go for the traditional ones, if you're living in the land of no roads.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by sujeetacharya View Post
        Hi,

        I am owning 1998 model 350CC STD Royal Enfield. My rear shock up are in bad shape and I need to replace it asap. I am confused between hydraulic shockup and gas filled shockup.

        Some one told me that Gas filled shock up are

        1. Costly (apprx 1800INR)
        2. Not Long lasting
        3. has frequent gas leakage problem
        4. On high speed bike bables
        5. On bumpi roads it become hot

        on the other hand

        the classic shockup are

        1. relatively cheap (800 INR)
        2. Hard and does not give good feel
        3. last long

        Can any one suggest, if the above points are true.

        Also which shockup to go with.

        Thanks

        Regards
        Sujeet
        Bold words are the ones i vouch for, others i'm not sure but i feel they are true. I personally feel the classic ones are much better than the gas filled. I had a bad experience with the gas-filled shocks, it leaked and had to change it in a very short time, then went for the classic: it lasted long and the bike felt like a bullet (yes it is much stiffer but that is how a bullet should be). In your case your's being the standard version better to go for the classic but if you are a person looking for a spongy ride then go for the Gas-filled type. Hope you make the right choice.
        And you being in Mumbai it is better to go for the classic type !
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        • #5
          Thanks All,

          I think I will go for the classic old shockup. One more technical problem I identified is, Gas filled shockups are 1" longer in size which results little more pressure in the bike chain sporckets in single riding which intrun results the sporkets burnouts. And when you ride single change in little loose. This may not be the right choice for the old designed bike.

          My personal assumptions is gas filled shockup should be used in the bikes which is designed to use these shockup.

          Regards

          Sujeet

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          • #6
            I noticed this difference in how the rear shock absorber springs are setup in HH bikes and Bajaj Bikes.(Highlighted in red circles).The more-spacing-in-coil side of the spring is towards swingarm in HH while its towards seat in Bajaj bikes.How does these two different setups effect the ride?which one is smoother?
            2004 Pulsar 150 DTSi

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            • #7
              koi toh batao!
              2004 Pulsar 150 DTSi

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              • #8
                Originally posted by RascalAngel View Post
                I noticed this difference in how the rear shock absorber springs are setup in HH bikes and Bajaj Bikes.(Highlighted in red circles).The more-spacing-in-coil side of the spring is towards swingarm in HH while its towards seat in Bajaj bikes.How does these two different setups effect the ride?which one is smoother?
                I have compared the shock absorbing of zma & p220. No doubt zma's shocks absorber's are better than 220's. But i have read somewhere that stiffer shocks are attributed to better handling of the bike. Maybe some seniors can throw light on this.

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                • #9
                  yes, Stiffer setup does improve handling but is the spring setup in Pulsar that way for it to be stiff?
                  2004 Pulsar 150 DTSi

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by RascalAngel View Post
                    I noticed this difference in how the rear shock absorber springs are setup in HH bikes and Bajaj Bikes.(Highlighted in red circles).The more-spacing-in-coil side of the spring is towards swingarm in HH while its towards seat in Bajaj bikes.How does these two different setups effect the ride?which one is smoother?
                    I don't think there is any difference in the working only thing is shock up piston position is different. This will not make any difference.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by RascalAngel View Post
                      I noticed this difference in how the rear shock absorber springs are setup in HH bikes and Bajaj Bikes.(Highlighted in red circles).The more-spacing-in-coil side of the spring is towards swingarm in HH while its towards seat in Bajaj bikes.How does these two different setups effect the ride?which one is smoother?
                      Hero Honda shocks are made that way because for a limited travel they are soft and then they harden up as the coil closes the gap so they are comfortable and same time they handling a lot but in bajaj bike the shocks are smooth but they wallow a lot on hard cornering as they don't harden up after some travel.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by sibun View Post
                        Hero Honda shocks are made that way because for a limited travel they are soft and then they harden up as the coil closes the gap so they are comfortable and same time they handling a lot but in bajaj bike the shocks are smooth but they wallow a lot on hard cornering as they don't harden up after some travel.
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