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  • Help solicited - Advice on Rx rebuilds for passion

    Reference - http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/thumpers...-variants.html

    Around an year ago, what started as a simple part hunt resulted in a complete motorcycle rebuild. It took its own sweet one year of time to build mine to what is called a perfect rebuild that ended up changing every nut & bolt. It was not only an experience that was gained, but being a normal person, learned several things over my mistakes

    Having built one & running in a perfect condition & having gained all the knowledge, tools, pains, the passion of building is still burning more than ever!!! What do I do? There's always a burning desire for such things in life . Even when you google "Yamaha 3 variants" it throws up the other thread on the first page. Even google hasn't spared the passion I guess

    Now to the advice part or help sought or the purpose of this thread. Having restored one Rx, I'm confident on all the works right from electricals, suspensions, tranny or a little customization like RDD CDI, 90/100, disc brake fittings, suppliers of OE parts or even plating & paintings. I'm seriously thinking of buying some abused or worst conditioned Rx, restore it to mint & then sell it. Right now, by God's grace, I'm not in need to make a living out of it; its only a passion to build one; the satisfaction & pleasure is all what I need. I only need to get what I'd spent, so I'd be taking receipt for each & every work that goes into the build, so that the net selling price will be the cost of every work done. In return, I take the pleasure, satisfaction & the enjoyment of restoration as my labour . So to summarize, here're the pros...
    - Satisfaction, passion & pleasure
    - Buyer gets complete peace of mind as the work done is transparent
    - No con work or juggad carried out
    - Restoration to stock, so after buying they can take it up with any local mechanic for regular service
    - All the more, complete peace of mind
    - A prospect buyer can bring in their existing Rx to restore or both of us hunt for an used Rx & then start the work

    There're always other side of the coin ; so to the cons...
    - The biggest trouble is making the vehicle stand on the garage as Wifey & Mother are almost in the verge of dumping me & my Rx out of home . So if I'd one restored Rx on garage, I'd be promptly sent out of the home or thrown out without questions!!!
    - What I'm starting might even turn into disaster, not sure, but cannot rule out the possibility as such
    - Time to procure & restoration might shoot up a bit
    - All the other things such as money, RTO formalities, finding a buyer are all secondary

    1. What should I do folks? Should I pursue my passion or not?
    2. If I do pursue, what are the things that I should be taking care?
    3. As a prospect buyer, what would be your expectation from a non-profitable restoration work?

    Pls help me with your thoughts & suggestions. Tks.
    19
    Continue seeking your passion & satisfaction, there're no substitute, after all one life
    73.68%
    14
    Nothing works in this country, stay cautious, if it has to be done, do it on yours
    10.53%
    2
    Think through brains, help people, but there're other ways doing it
    15.79%
    3

    The poll is expired.

    Last edited by aargee; 02-05-2011, 04:00 PM.
    Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
    Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
    ATGATT + Awareness + Skill means you might Live To Ride another day

  • #2
    Query approved.
    (Been There Done That) x 3.25

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    • #3
      Originally posted by aargee View Post
      Reference - http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/thumpers...-variants.html

      Around an year ago, what started as a simple part hunt resulted in a complete motorcycle rebuild. It took its own sweet one year of time to build mine to what is called a perfect rebuild that ended up changing every nut & bolt. It was not only an experience that was gained, but being a normal person, learned several things over my mistakes

      Having built one & running in a perfect condition & having gained all the knowledge, tools, pains, the passion of building is still burning more than ever!!! What do I do? There's always a burning desire for such things in life . Even when you google "Yamaha 3 variants" it throws up the other thread on the first page. Even google hasn't spared the passion I guess

      Now to the advice part or help sought or the purpose of this thread. Having restored one Rx, I'm confident on all the works right from electricals, suspensions, tranny or a little customization like RDD CDI, 90/100, disc brake fittings, suppliers of OE parts or even plating & paintings. I'm seriously thinking of buying some abused or worst conditioned Rx, restore it to mint & then sell it. Right now, by God's grace, I'm not in need to make a living out of it; its only a passion to build one; the satisfaction & pleasure is all what I need. I only need to get what I'd spent, so I'd be taking receipt for each & every work that goes into the build, so that the net selling price will be the cost of every work done. In return, I take the pleasure, satisfaction & the enjoyment of restoration as my labour . So to summarize, here're the pros...
      - Satisfaction, passion & pleasure
      - Buyer gets complete peace of mind as the work done is transparent
      - No con work or juggad carried out
      - Restoration to stock, so after buying they can take it up with any local mechanic for regular service
      - All the more, complete peace of mind
      - A prospect buyer can bring in their existing Rx or leave to find a

      There're always other side of the coin ; so to the cons...
      - The biggest trouble is making the vehicle stand on the garage as Wifey & Mother are almost in the verge of dumping me & my Rx out of home . So if I'd one restored Rx on garage, I'd be promptly sent out of the home or thrown out without questions!!!
      - What I'm starting might even turn into disaster, not sure, but cannot rule out the possibility as such
      - Time to procure & restoration might shoot up a bit
      - All the other things such as money, RTO formalities, finding a buyer are all secondary

      1. What should I do folks? Should I pursue my passion or not?
      2. If I do pursue, what are the things that I should be taking care?
      3. As a prospect buyer, what would be your expectation from a non-profitable restoration work?

      Pls help me with your thoughts & suggestions. Tks.
      aargee

      Pls pursue your passion.... that gives more satisfaction than anything

      am sure you will have to balance between your work, family and passion...pls have your time planned

      I wish you all the very best...

      Cheers - Pls PM me when ever you start on your work (May be I would help you in some manual work) will do as a helper (so that I too can learn something)
      Never Give up on something that you can't go a day without thinking about.

      Cheers
      Ramesh Madhavan

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      • #4
        @Aargee - The passion in you had already turned your dream of rebuilding complete bike at home. Now that with your experience and knowledge gained through time has not only reflect your on the RX you possess, also on helping 2stroker on this forum.

        To your questions-

        It is understood that only a person who has taken the pain, traveled and gone through some learning can only see the difference between his bike and other. It is known that always family would not like see their dear ones putting lot of struggle right in front of their eyes. Only your happiness and your smile would be visible to them and not beyond i.e your knowledge, pain, frustration, small joy and sharing your logical approach towards restoration.

        There are ways to continue your passion. One of them is sharing your knowledge and helping fellow bikers, which you are already doing it.

        Knowingly or unknowingly you are already following the passion and have helped me in many ways.The issue the other day (woodruff key), What more I could have expected than your sheer pursuit to resolve the issue on my bike? That was a classic example.

        I would not be able to speak on your behalf completely. However, if I were you would closely assist on restoration project for the die hard 2stroker if sought help.

        And if you ever do another restoration, kindly let me know, so that I can contribute my bit towards it. Be it logistics, procuring parts or even helper job! My benefit? Knowledge, knowledge and knowledge gain!

        Other way to keep up with the passion, is to keep riding the RX! (I can't think any better! )
        RX100 1996 | Karizma 2004 | Karizma-R 2011 | RXZ 1999 | RX 135 1998 | RX 100 1993 | CBF150 2005 - 2011

        2012 - Meghamalai | Kuttralam | 2011 Ooty | Munnar | 2010 Point Calimere | Horsley Hills | Yercaud

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        • #5
          aargee - I've come to the conclusion long ago that what you are setting out to do is a thankless job that doesn't pay. Sadly the Indian mentality still leans towards finding the best bargain, as opposed to finding quality. If you can do a chrome job for Rs.2500 then they want to find someone who will do it for Rs.800.

          This phenomenon is even more so with people who buy the RX series.

          My advice is to follow your passion but get the work executed by 3rd parties. Find a mechanic who has a feel for these machines and find vendors for parts and services like paint/chrome. Just direct the whole show from a distance on behalf of the customer.

          You won't get paid for it but at least you'll still have a home where people aren't sharpening knives!

          Reserve the passion for your own machines...this is not yet a career worth pursuing in India where everyone is a "Tuner" and a homegrown mechanic.
          Kriss : 15.06.1981 - 11.10.2009
          You will not be forgotten...RIP

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          • #6
            Thats a good reason to delete your thanks post
            Never Give up on something that you can't go a day without thinking about.

            Cheers
            Ramesh Madhavan

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            • #7
              Hello, N00B here,

              Argee, You are one of the few people I know that actually take two strokes seriously. Most people just crib about the smoke the noise and the sheer disappointment when their 80k plus machines get smoked by 20 year old relics.

              If any one can actually make this happen that would be you. Both emotionally and practically. Best of luck.

              See, now you can thank the N00B.
              HYPERTHRUST CLEARED AND COUNTING
              5.....4.....3....2.....1

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              • #8
                there are many, But.

                there are many people who are passionate about D.Y.I. which includes me.
                But,
                as told earlier, my India's mentality is far from it.

                forget pursuing passion like aargee, people are surprised and they discourage you when you are doing it yourself even.

                i my case thankfully my wife does support my passion for bike and DYI, but my profession and time-line does not permit the same.
                Last edited by jawad_emt; 02-06-2011, 12:23 AM. Reason: spelling
                We wouldn't need a forum if we all had same opinions, same thoughts, and same bikes..... Enjoy the difference.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by aargee View Post
                  Reference - http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/thumpers...-variants.html
                  So to summarize, here're the pros...
                  - Satisfaction, passion & pleasure
                  - Buyer gets complete peace of mind as the work done is transparent
                  - No con work or juggad carried out
                  - Restoration to stock, so after buying they can take it up with any local mechanic for regular service
                  - All the more, complete peace of mind
                  - A prospect buyer can bring in their existing Rx to restore or both of us hunt for an used Rx & then start the work

                  There're always other side of the coin ; so to the cons...
                  - The biggest trouble is making the vehicle stand on the garage as Wifey & Mother are almost in the verge of dumping me & my Rx out of home . So if I'd one restored Rx on garage, I'd be promptly sent out of the home or thrown out without questions!!!
                  - What I'm starting might even turn into disaster, not sure, but cannot rule out the possibility as such
                  - Time to procure & restoration might shoot up a bit
                  - All the other things such as money, RTO formalities, finding a buyer are all secondary

                  1. What should I do folks? Should I pursue my passion or not?
                  2. If I do pursue, what are the things that I should be taking care?
                  3. As a prospect buyer, what would be your expectation from a non-profitable restoration work?

                  Pls help me with your thoughts & suggestions. Tks.
                  Before you embark on restoration work of Two Strokers,I came a cross a news item that all 2 st.Autos in WB and Delhi had been banned,and is going to be extended throughout India..There is also a similar talk on the 2 wheelers also...I don't have concrete info on this so I am unable to say with conviction.
                  If you want to satisfy your urge to do the restoration and get immense happiness,then go ahead...Selling it will not cover your cost involved...and remember ..the family will definitely reserve the dog house for you
                  When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                  • #10
                    +1 for passion

                    Hey Buddy,

                    The Pain/ Effort / Time you have put in restoring your RX is truly commendeble. Please continue with your passion.

                    I know Family issues will always be there. But you will always have to balance your time between work, family & your passion.

                    All the best maan....
                    Ride Hard !!! Ride Safe!!! Enjoy every moment on your machine !!! Cheers....

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                    • #11
                      Ramesh, Sriram, GS, Bhibu, Jawad, Psr & Daredemon - Guys, Thanks a MILLION. But this Thanks is not all that I intent to say. I'll listen to all your suggestions open hearted & will state what I decide at the end and most importantly, Thank you in a much better way that should delight you

                      I just interrupted in between to say that I've converted this into a poll in addition, that will be open for 2 weeks. So, if possible pls cast your valuable vote in addition to have left your suggestions. I've the poll with three options...

                      1. Continue seeking your passion & satisfaction, there're no substitute, after all one life - To state your opinion that I should pursue towards my passion
                      2. Nothing works in this country, stay cautious, if it has to be done, do it on yours - To warn & help my life getting complicated or any disaster that should occur
                      3. Think through brains, help people, but there're other ways doing it - To state that there're even better or alternate options & provide me those suggestions

                      Once again I stress, I've been thinking on this for the following reasons only...
                      - I love working on a motorcycle, the oily hands especially between nails & the flesh , the smell of petrol, all the more turning an abused machine to spanking new showroom condition, ah!!! no more words to describe the feeling
                      - Personally tired of con mechs, feel pity on ppl taken for ride & to help them

                      Like I said before, I'm open to all your suggestions be it good, bad, ugly , I listen & value our entire community's opinion as I firmly believe this will be something unusual, atleast in my own family. Once again, Thanks for your encouragement guys - Ramesh, Sriram, GS, Bhibu, Jawad, Psr & Daredemon, I truly value all of them.

                      Last but not the least, anyone is whole heartedly welcome to cast your opinion to vote even if you don't suggest anything. But will be more than happy if you leave a message
                      Last edited by aargee; 02-06-2011, 02:04 AM.
                      Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
                      Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
                      ATGATT + Awareness + Skill means you might Live To Ride another day

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                        • #13
                          My $0.02 says if you look at this as something you want to pursue side by side along with your job that pays for your job then don't let anybody tell you otherwise. But don't you EVER get your priorities mixed up! Your job and your family come before anything else in this world. Second besides the enthusiast clique nobody will be willing to spend a wad of cash on an RX! Then there is the crappy market value for RX series, I have seen a brand spanking new RX everything stock being sold off for almost 22K INR. The guy was moving to Australia and he wanted to sell his bike off, for a full month the bike stood there at the used vehicles dealership nobody cared to ask about it. People would go like "Oh hell who wants an RX when you can have a pulsar". The point here is nobody will spend that kind of money on RX and later come to grits with reality that there's no resale value!

                          Plus how would you like watching a 2 bit idiot wiping the chord too hard on your hard work and rolling back in with a busted motor, coming back to you and questioning your hard work? Bet it would piss you off a million times over. Without further digression don't let this get in the way of your main duties and responsibilities my friend because this passion can't pay for you and your family that's just how it is.
                          RIP ਕਾਕਾ ਭੈਣੀਆਂਵਾਲਾ (Santokh Singh Rataurh)

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                          • #14
                            Argee you are nuts.... if you need any help at all let me know
                            Kawasaki KB100/enduro/125 substitute parts list http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/508615-post105.html

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by dafc View Post
                              My $0.02 says if you look at this as something you want to pursue side by side along with your job that pays for your job then don't let anybody tell you otherwise. But don't you EVER get your priorities mixed up! Your job and your family come before anything else in this world. Second besides the enthusiast clique nobody will be willing to spend a wad of cash on an RX! Then there is the crappy market value for RX series, I have seen a brand spanking new RX everything stock being sold off for almost 22K INR. The guy was moving to Australia and he wanted to sell his bike off, for a full month the bike stood there at the used vehicles dealership nobody cared to ask about it. People would go like "Oh hell who wants an RX when you can have a pulsar". The point here is nobody will spend that kind of money on RX and later come to grits with reality that there's no resale value!

                              Plus how would you like watching a 2 bit idiot wiping the chord too hard on your hard work and rolling back in with a busted motor, coming back to you and questioning your hard work? Bet it would piss you off a million times over. Without further digression don't let this get in the way of your main duties and responsibilities my friend because this passion can't pay for you and your family that's just how it is.
                              I completely disagree with you dafc...today in Tamilnadu, RX has better liking than other bikes, not sure about your place. Here you can get crap at that price you mentioned. If you are looking at a completely restored bike in Chennai, you cannot get for even 30k (Real Restoration).
                              Never Give up on something that you can't go a day without thinking about.

                              Cheers
                              Ramesh Madhavan

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