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    karizma engine gasping for air or fuel ??

    Guys,

    When i strart my ZMA in the morning it doesnt start..no wonder..i believe all ZMAs are like this. So i got used to starting it with choke.

    From about a month or so after starting if i rev up the RPM in idle above 2.5K the engine feels as if its gasping for maybe air or fuel (dont know) and sometimes just stalls.
    Even if i manage to move the bike after numerous attempts it stalls again if i rev it up again...very frustrating indeed

    can someone please shed some light on this? Is this something i can do on my own or should i take it to a mechanic.
    The problem with ZMA is sometimes even the HeroHonda service also makes me feel there's no mechanic proficient enough in pune

    Thanks in anticipation
    Ravi
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    Tags: karizma, karizma engine, stalling, stalls
  • #2
    Query approved.
    (Been There Done That) x 3.25

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    • #3
      is this happens only on cold starts? use choke and let the engine warm up before riding.
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      • #4
        How old is your bike? Have you considered your air filter might need to be changed if its more than 12-15k? Though air filter condition depends on the type of road one is running. Some are dusty while others are cleaner.

        I never had this problem in my Zma as I have changed my air filter at around 15k, there was no problem, but I changed them anyway as they are quiet cheap. Though the symptom you described are very similar to problem I had in my Gypsy long time ago on a highway. I just removed my air filter (gypsy) and banged it and marveled at the amount of dust puffing out. After that I put it back and everything was back to normal. I changed the filter later.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by kaynmantis View Post
          How old is your bike? Have you considered your air filter might need to be changed if its more than 12-15k? Though air filter condition depends on the type of road one is running. Some are dusty while others are cleaner.

          I never had this problem in my Zma as I have changed my air filter at around 15k, there was no problem, but I changed them anyway as they are quiet cheap. Though the symptom you described are very similar to problem I had in my Gypsy long time ago on a highway. I just removed my air filter (gypsy) and banged it and marveled at the amount of dust puffing out. After that I put it back and everything was back to normal. I changed the filter later.

          Thanks for that. My bike clocked 20,500K till now. I'd consider your advice because nothing was changed in my bike till now.I assumed the HeroHonda Service guys will advise on this when required.
          I'll get the air filter replaced and will update.

          Thanks,
          Ravi
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          • #6
            also check your carb.........and tell us if your problem is solved.
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            • #7
              hEY rav,, sorry for ridin your thread but lately after i took my Zma to my local Mech it lost the pickup and stalls lightly every time i open the throttle. i was an NRI so my bike has jus done 16k.. and filter is stock..


              @kaynmantis : do you you think i should change the air filder and also the Plugs/ ?




              2006 > 2014 >PUBLIC TRANSPORT - Singapore(DUH!)
              2005 > disco 125(for dad)
              2003 > Zma
              2003 > ambition (sold)
              1999 > Cd100ss(sold
              1997 > Dad's cd 100 (1990)(sold)


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              • #8
                @noah2125: Not an expert myself, though its about time to change your air filter or at least give it a thorough clean with high pressure air. Regarding plug, no need to change, just cleaning should suffice unless there is some serious problem. Plugs are suppose to last a very long.

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                • #9
                  As far is i read from the forums Zma carbs are not tuneable.. so u think i shud give it to HH servicemen and ask them to clean the carb ? dah man ,. pickup is like splendor and i lost 20 KMPH.. SUKS to ride it..




                  2006 > 2014 >PUBLIC TRANSPORT - Singapore(DUH!)
                  2005 > disco 125(for dad)
                  2003 > Zma
                  2003 > ambition (sold)
                  1999 > Cd100ss(sold
                  1997 > Dad's cd 100 (1990)(sold)


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                  • #10
                    lost pickup

                    I made a huge mistake of giving it to him

                    I lost 20 KMPH and pikcup is like splendor.. Damn.. sucks to ride it now.. are any good mechs in chennai ? arround purasai area. ?

                    or better take it to hh service ?

                    guys just jump me on this..




                    2006 > 2014 >PUBLIC TRANSPORT - Singapore(DUH!)
                    2005 > disco 125(for dad)
                    2003 > Zma
                    2003 > ambition (sold)
                    1999 > Cd100ss(sold
                    1997 > Dad's cd 100 (1990)(sold)


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                    • #11
                      got it checked with another guy,, the chain was damn tight.. he loosened it up.. but still its gasping for air.. pickup has improved a bit,, gona buy new filter.. will update on the gasping probs




                      2006 > 2014 >PUBLIC TRANSPORT - Singapore(DUH!)
                      2005 > disco 125(for dad)
                      2003 > Zma
                      2003 > ambition (sold)
                      1999 > Cd100ss(sold
                      1997 > Dad's cd 100 (1990)(sold)


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                      • #12
                        @noah: it might be a tuning issue... take it to the H.A.S.S
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                        • #13
                          @ravi: if you face this problem only during the start up and not after once it had started a good run, then it can be a stuck air bubble, just open the tank cover and close it.
                          If you face this issue every time you ride get the carburetor tuned..
                          if it arises only when revved through a certain rpm, get the airfilter cleaned...
                          Presence of MIND and self CONFIDENCE is the primary aspect You need to be on road, not what brand your riding gears are.
                          If you lack these two then DONT

                          Feel the pleasure of Ultimate Biking
                          __________________________________________

                          . . .                           alwayzaLive . . .

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ARNandal View Post
                            @noah: it might be a tuning issue... take it to the H.A.S.S
                            THE A S S guy took it for a spin and says the carb is fine and says my clutch plates are old... i said WTH?.. its 16k only.. and i dont feel the slippery revving at all.. its like its having a bubble in its throat all the time.


                            i looked around the carb and no other screws are available. how ever i got another mech near my area.. he said he would look at the jets tomo.. lets see wat happens next




                            2006 > 2014 >PUBLIC TRANSPORT - Singapore(DUH!)
                            2005 > disco 125(for dad)
                            2003 > Zma
                            2003 > ambition (sold)
                            1999 > Cd100ss(sold
                            1997 > Dad's cd 100 (1990)(sold)


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                            • #15
                              Get the air filter, fuel filter and slide in the carburetor checked...

                              am also facing problems with the clutch plate and itz just 14k on mine...
                              Presence of MIND and self CONFIDENCE is the primary aspect You need to be on road, not what brand your riding gears are.
                              If you lack these two then DONT

                              Feel the pleasure of Ultimate Biking
                              __________________________________________

                              . . .                               alwayzaLive . . .

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