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**Noor** · 05-05-2011, 04:20 AM

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**ARNandal** · 05-05-2011, 05:04 AM

@ankurjain:

1. Itz not usual.. Check the engine oil, if its between the marks then itz ok. Engne oil wont be the culprit for the hard shifts.. And by getting stuck did u mean gear slipping or the gear not getting locked at the specified gear. If itz this, take it to the authorized pro-biking service station and mention both your problem. The gear being tight can be also be of the same cause.

2. You cannot rely on the reserve signal completely. Your reserve capacity is 2.2litres

3. I think your bike has a carburetor tuning problem, mention this and they will tune it right. Ask them why they didnt inspect your bike before delivery?

**thefastestindian** · 05-05-2011, 07:00 AM

Originally posted by ankurjain View Post

Hello Fellow xbhpians,

I recently purchased Pulsar 220 F on 1st of May. I am experiencing a few of problems :

1) The gear shifting has become harder than it was on the first day. It even gets stuck sometimes while shifting from 1st to 2nd gear and so on. Expecially 1st to 2nd transition was a little harder on the 1st day itself but I thought that it will be ok with a little time as its new. But as time is passing its becoming more harder and rougher

Doesn't feel new bike at all atleast from the gears. I checked this with the pro-biking guy and he checked he lever a bit and then told it will be ok with time or else to bring to him again. Is this normal with new bike or shall I go to him again.

2) My bike wasn't going to reserve. After first refill it returend 42 kmpl and the red light mentioning the reserve got red, both at around same time. Then I again filled 1 ltr petrol just to check on the mileage again. To my horrifying surprise the bike wasn't going to reserve. The red light glowed sometimes in between driving ( when I drove a little faster ) but then again it went off and no sign of reserve ( the dhag dhag sound followed by jerks wasn't there ). Then again while taking it from stand still it kind of felt stalling but when given a little more throttle ran again and still no reserve. Today finally it showed the red light and after some time the jerks and then it went to reserve. I looked at odo and it ran whooping 80 kms after last reading. Its simply not possible. What could be the problem. Earlier I was suspecting that the fuel know may be faulty but then it came to reserve and my suspicion was void.

3) The bike autochoke works nice when started in morning. Though 2 3 starts are required ( is it ok with new bike ?? ). It goes to 4k rpm for say 2 3 secs and then returns to 1.4k rpm. But then I ride it for some time and stop at traffic signal then it idles at 2k or 2.2k rpm and not 1.4k. Is this the right behaviour ?

Please help me out in this regards.

-Ankur

1. This is not usual at all, Not sure what the problem might be but engine oil levels, mioght be an issue. Not sure on this.

2. Reserve light is a dumb thing on the 220, Cannot rely on that at all. As far as I know, reserve is 3.2 ltrs. When I bought my 220, I was wondering just like you are wondering right now (why is the bike not getting into reserve?) Later when the bike finally ran into reserve, did a full tank to full tank and found out that the bike was giving 51 kmpl. I was shocked. It gave me 50 kmpl for sure till my first service, After that I started testing its power and FE went down to 35 kmpl in city and 40 kmpl on the highway.
p.s : Go easy on the bikie atleast till the first 1000 kms if you want good FE.

3. Your carb is the culprit here. Had a similar issue after my first service but some how fixed it at home after some trial and errors with the air fuel screw. Just to be on a safer side, Get this done by the probiking guys.

Ride safe

**ankurjain** · 05-05-2011, 11:35 AM

@arnandal
- The engineoil when i check stays at the lower mark. While i asked the pbk guy at delivery he told that it normally stays there when cold and rises to up level when hot. he gear is not slipping but due to roughness when I try to change it the lever won't move

. I have to visit pbk showroom fir my receipt then I will mention him abt this again. Normally how much shall be the engine oil level when bike is cold ? Mine stays exactly at the lower mark when seen from the glass.

- The reserve is 3.2 lts ( as said by thefastestindian ). But I was surprised looking at the mileage figure. It surely can't be 80kmpl and I am sure I put only 1ltrs petrol. Have filled petrol again this morning ( after it came to reserve finally last night ). Will chk on this again.

@thefastestindian - If it returning 50kmpl then its cool ... My most riding is in city only. Highways I will touch on full speed after 1000kms. Till then have to do only 50 - 60. THis is my first owned

so have to take care of it properly.

- About this I also asked this to pbk guy, he told that it will stay that way as the bike is new and if we loosen it then it will switch off when standing at traffic.

.. Don't know if its completely true or not.

Today morning one more thing happened. The bike straightaway idled at 1.4k rpm only. The autochoke didn't rev it higher as it normally happened. I tht that may be its already warm. I also revved a little upto 4k mark and it was not stalling. Then when I put 1st gear and speeded it stopped

...

One more thing I need to confirm. in the morning I have to give 2 3 starters as it keeps switching off. only at 2 or 3rd start the autochoke takes over. Is it an ok behaviour ?

-Ankur

**thefastestindian** · 05-05-2011, 05:25 PM

@ankur : 220 was my first bike too. Took good care of it, Now that I'm getting a CBR, Sold the 220 a couple of days ago. I was not exceeding 60 kmph unti;; my first 1000 kms and WOW, I got 50 kmpl. That figure from a 220 cc bike is not a joke.

Auto choke comes in during winters and cold mornings, Since hte last couple of months My auto choke never came into action as it is pretty hot in hyderabad even at 9am. The reason why your engine is switching off is because your rpm is low. your AFR screw settings and rpm settings are not in sync so You'll face some issues with that every morning. Get that fixed by the pbk guys as soon as possible. Since your bike is still in the run ins period, Get this fixed asap.

**ARNandal** · 05-05-2011, 11:38 PM

+ 1 to thefastestindian

Ankur better dont delay for your gear shift problems....

**ankurjain** · 05-05-2011, 11:38 PM

Originally posted by thefastestindian View Post

@ankur : 220 was my first bike too. Took good care of it, Now that I'm getting a CBR, Sold the 220 a couple of days ago. I was not exceeding 60 kmph unti;; my first 1000 kms and WOW, I got 50 kmpl. That figure from a 220 cc bike is not a joke.

Auto choke comes in during winters and cold mornings, Since hte last couple of months My auto choke never came into action as it is pretty hot in hyderabad even at 9am. The reason why your engine is switching off is because your rpm is low. your AFR screw settings and rpm settings are not in sync so You'll face some issues with that every morning. Get that fixed by the pbk guys as soon as possible. Since your bike is still in the run ins period, Get this fixed asap.

ok .. will visit pbk tomorrow. normally how much shall be engine oil level ? between the two markers when the bike is cold ? Mine is touching the lower marker and also it doesn't look like moving at all.. need to kick pbk guys a** a little

Will chk the autochoke once again tomorrow and will post again here what happens at pbk ...

-Ankur

**thefastestindian** · 05-05-2011, 11:47 PM

Originally posted by ankurjain View Post

ok .. will visit pbk tomorrow. normally how much shall be engine oil level ? between the two markers when the bike is cold ? Mine is touching the lower marker and also it doesn't look like moving at all.. need to kick pbk guys a** a little

Will chk the autochoke once again tomorrow and will post again here what happens at pbk ...

-Ankur

Engine oil level should be between both the pointers. Check the oil level by keeping your bike on main stand in the morning when the engine is cold and after you reach work/college etc.

PBK guys are pretty smart. They'll say " no issues saar, New bike so it'll be ok after somet ime " but don't buy that. Insist on fixing the issue and if they still dont work, Just tell them that you will take this issue to the officials. Raise a complaint through their website and trust me, They'll run behind you to make sure that the problem is rectified. (personal experience)

**ankurjain** · 05-07-2011, 07:04 PM

Updates :

Visited the pbk today. Kept the bike on double stand and explained the problem to the other guy ( the guy with whom I talked was having lunch ). We checked the engine oil and surprisingly its level rose between the two markers :P ... I have never seen it there. This guy already told me that the oil level will rise when riding. Next I asked about the idling rpm when stopped at traffic he did some adjustment and I have yet to observe it now. About need to give 2 3 starts in the morning he told that since the engine has to rouse from cold it may take this much starts. For the gear shifting problem he told it shall be resolved in first svc. Then again he told if I still don't feel comfortable then get it checked with the svc. Its open on sundays here. One more surprise was I saw a bike standing there on display. The oil level in it was nearing the above marker, when enquired abt that he told the oil level shall be anywhere between lower and higher mark not necessarily at the middle and that the same I can check after the first service. Anyways tomorrow I will still visit the svc centre. Its a little far so see the location too and show it to a mechanic also.

Will update tomorrow again guys. Anything you need to add please let me know.

Guys I want your opinion on this : Shall I raise this issue to Bajaj or this issues will be resolved in 1st service. I have done ~190 kms by now. Any old or new owners can shed some light on this please.

-Ankur

**rakshit rana** · 05-07-2011, 08:27 PM

get it checked once properly,if they don't listen to your problem then only send a mail to bajaj,that's what i would suggest

**ankurjain** · 05-09-2011, 11:13 AM

Hello Guys,
Yesterday I visited the pbk svc and told them the problems. The staff was very welcoming and listened to problem with patience. Checked it and then recognized the problem of hard gear shifting to be problem in setting of the clutch. On asking that it was perfect on first 2 days he said that with operation it may get loose. After doing the setting the gear was working smooth again

.

The took the bike for short spin and then told that its now fine. I asked him abt the engine oil level he also said it shall be between top & bottom markers. And then I told him that mine was only at lower marker, he topped it up 200 ml with some red colored oil

.

For not starting in morning in 1 click I asked a mechanic. He told that it shall start in one go. I told him mine takes 2 3 clicks and also on stopping in traffic the idling is more. He tested the bike and did some fiddling with AFR screw and a vertical screw ( he called it rpm screw ) and then the standby rpm came to 1k. But then I was having some problem in traffic. In morning also bike wasn't starting and I needed to give race manually then only it started. Will get it resolved in service now. Its already 250 kms in 7 days

....

Guys I want to know one more thing. Its about run-in. In run in shall the rpm be kept <=3k or the speed shall be <=60 ? My friend yesterday drove till 70kmph

. Is it ok to occasionally drive above the limit ?

-Ankur

**rakshit rana** · 05-09-2011, 12:16 PM

great ankur as far as run in period is concerned don't stick to a constant RPM range.ride in variable rpm's so that all parts get properly involved & give your bike seldom short bursts.

**ankurjain** · 05-09-2011, 01:42 PM

Originally posted by rakshit rana View Post

great ankur as far as run in period is concerned don't stick to a constant RPM range.ride in variable rpm's so that all parts get properly involved & give your bike seldom short bursts.

Hi Rakshit,

I normally ride at 50 - 60 or sometimes even at 40 for relaxed riding in city. And I noticed that at this speed the rpm is around 3k mark.

I will take your suggestion and try a variable rpm

I just wanted to know whether taking to some higher rpm or speed is restricted in run-in period which may cause damage to engine or affect the FE for future .

-Ankur

**thefastestindian** · 05-09-2011, 04:36 PM

Good that your problems are sorted out. If you think the idling rpm is less, increase your idling. This causes no harm unless you increase it a lot.

Regarding the run in period, Always vary your rpm and don't forget to do engine breaking. rise your rpm to 4-5k and let the rpm come down to 2-2.5 k and repeat the procedure at different intervals.

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