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  • Finally got a RTR, hope it was the right choice.....

    Hi guys...
    I purchased this black Apache RTR 160 RD on 15th April... Was initially great confusion with all the options galore, and also since i am a 6footer but finally couldnt resist the RTR temptation....

    The purchase was fine.... Then what blew my mind was the serviceman while delivering the bike 2 me, put in around 500ml of petrol, self started it up, and went for a spin..... When he returned it was 5.6 seconds on 0-60 timer and a top of 85 !!!!!!!!!!! I was like WTF ! after reading on months about running in this is what gets done .... Was quite scared also.... But the bike was running fine and the worry faded......

    Then come 15th May gave it up for 1st servicing, it was 460km on odo.... After the srvice didnt feel much of a thing.... Till that, i was maintaining around 4.5k max on the rpm meter, after doing 500km, felt like taking a little spin... Took it up to 102 for around 2 seconds.... Then i also went for a 60 km continuous trip.... Rpm still always within 5k......

    But, wat i "feel".... purely aural, that the engine has become somewhat harsh sounding over the days, in the initial condition, the xhaust tone was sweet to listen everytime... but now, like when i am stand beside the bike, rev it up to 4 k , the engine sound is also very prominent....

    Vibrations wise while driving, it is still the old apache, totally smooth after 66-67 on the speedo.... but i am worried if nething bad has happened to the engine and shud i get something checked at the SVC ???

    (Also any xBHpians in Kolkata can u please let me know about what to do and where to do in kolkata about accessories and stuff ?? I am a total noob at all these )

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    • #3
      From which dealer you got the bike? which SVC center you went?
      I guess there is nothing wrong in it,what do you mean by harsh noise from engine??
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      • #4
        I got it from Shaw Auto , TVS dealer in Titagarh, Kolkata.....

        The sound is fine by engine standards... Nothing really alarming.... Only that the sound was a little smoother just when the bike was new, and the engine is more "audible" nowadays .... The bike came after almost 6 months of pleading and planning so i am a little tensed about its well being thats all....

        Also i am getting a mileage of around 39-42 before first service.... SVC guy was telling it wud go up by 3rd service .... Is that fine ?? By what i see people do get quite a lot more mileage under "sane" driving conditions (which is being followed in this run-in period)...

        Also is the fuel meter in the RTR responsive and accurate ? cuz mine seems to b quite sluggish and varying at times .....

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        • #5
          Originally posted by satadip View Post
          I got it from Shaw Auto , TVS dealer in Titagarh, Kolkata.....

          The sound is fine by engine standards... Nothing really alarming.... Only that the sound was a little smoother just when the bike was new, and the engine is more "audible" nowadays .... The bike came after almost 6 months of pleading and planning so i am a little tensed about its well being thats all....

          Also i am getting a mileage of around 39-42 before first service.... SVC guy was telling it wud go up by 3rd service .... Is that fine ?? By what i see people do get quite a lot more mileage under "sane" driving conditions (which is being followed in this run-in period)...

          Also is the fuel meter in the RTR responsive and accurate ? cuz mine seems to b quite sluggish and varying at times .....
          Answers for Bold lines

          1> Is it Tappet noise ( is it like tak tak tak tak tak ) if it is audible but not loud then let it be its quite normal in all RTR's . Also its summer time so dont bother much just njoy .

          2> Do Noe expect that RTR Fuel gauge to be accurate . But if u want to know exact reading just put ypur bike on main stand for a min and then it shows exact amount of fuel in Tank.

          3> There is nothing much to do in 1st service except cleaning job ( chian , air filter , Carburator) .

          4> 42kmpl is what i get in mix riding ( i own EFI) so i think is should be least 44-45kmpl in ur case. Mine is 55000kms old and still gives me 50+ under sane riding . Check Spark Plug it will give idea about AFR ration on which bike is running .
          Its not enough to know how to twist the throttle; you must have judgement to know when and where to do it.

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          • #6
            Tappets won't become loose now,the fuel of any bike is not accurate it just gives you an approx amount Of fuel that is left.mileage will increase after 2nd And 3rd service
            Don't worry buddy just enjoy your new bike
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            • #7
              Originally posted by abhiwar View Post
              Answers for Bold lines

              1> Is it Tappet noise ( is it like tak tak tak tak tak ) if it is audible but not loud then let it be its quite normal in all RTR's . Also its summer time so dont bother much just njoy .

              2> Do Noe expect that RTR Fuel gauge to be accurate . But if u want to know exact reading just put ypur bike on main stand for a min and then it shows exact amount of fuel in Tank.

              3> There is nothing much to do in 1st service except cleaning job ( chian , air filter , Carburator) .

              4> 42kmpl is what i get in mix riding ( i own EFI) so i think is should be least 44-45kmpl in ur case. Mine is 55000kms old and still gives me 50+ under sane riding . Check Spark Plug it will give idea about AFR ration on which bike is running .
              1)i guess the engine heat causes the sound to change somewhat.... cuz my semester xams are on, bike is laying around in garage, and today morning was just checking.... so it was just fine, smooth and sweet :-) and last time when i noticed it was after riding it for around 10km.....

              and its not tappet noise .... hav read it a million times thru the rtr pages, will xperience it in some days to come i guess

              4)will do.... check the colour thingy and report back.....

              another thing, after 1st service, 2nd is 2 months and also few thousands of kilometres away (on the odo of course ).... so when do i go for another engine oil change and what do i put in ? Nething different in mineral, or the Tru4 TVS type only ?
              Last edited by satadip; 05-20-2011, 01:39 PM.

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                btw, thnx abhiwar, haxor

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                • #9
                  @Threadstarter:If its not tappet sound then what else it might be?One way clutch gone kaput?
                  And about mineral oils,TVS Tru4 oil loses its viscosity pretty much earlier and becomes mineral water after some hard running which is not good for the engine.Look for Elf moto4 gold,Shell or if you find Motul mineral oil,then it will be the best for your bike.But all these oils has to be in the same W40 grade!

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                    Originally posted by Drifty View Post
                    @Threadstarter:If its not tappet sound then what else it might be?One way clutch gone kaput?
                    And about mineral oils,TVS Tru4 oil loses its viscosity pretty much earlier and becomes mineral water after some hard running which is not good for the engine.Look for Elf moto4 gold,Shell or if you find Motul mineral oil,then it will be the best for your bike.But all these oils has to be in the same W40 grade!
                    Well if the One-way clutch has gone kaput then Electric start wont work,and the new batch of RTR's have the new one way clutch!
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by satadip View Post
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                      The purchase was fine.... Then what blew my mind was the serviceman while delivering the bike 2 me, put in around 500ml of petrol, self started it up, and went for a spin..... When he returned it was 5.6 seconds on 0-60 timer and a top of 85 !!!!!!!!!!! I was like WTF ! after reading on months about running in this is what gets done .... Was quite scared also.... But the bike was running fine and the worry faded......
                      This must be happening to atleast 95% of us.
                      The dealers arent patient to abide by run-in.They WILL trash your machine.They wont waste time taking your bike for registration riding @ 60.

                      On a casual chat i spoke to my friend @ a YAMAHA dealer about this and when i asked abt them abiding run-in,he just laughed.
                      Last edited by RanjithMN; 05-21-2011, 02:38 AM.
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                      • #12
                        @satadip : I'm arnab from kolkata near dum dum airport. mainly you ca n get everything related to bike in wellington and 30% of things in barasat (not so much). anyways where r u from?
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Drifty View Post
                          @Threadstarter:If its not tappet sound then what else it might be?One way clutch gone kaput?
                          And about mineral oils,TVS Tru4 oil loses its viscosity pretty much earlier and becomes mineral water after some hard running which is not good for the engine.Look for Elf moto4 gold,Shell or if you find Motul mineral oil,then it will be the best for your bike.But all these oils has to be in the same W40 grade!
                          it is nothing serious i think... because the bike is running fine.... Only high temps, and high revs bring in that harshness.... i guess thats normal.... will get used to it.... will go oil hunting in wellington, if i knew any shops name / nething then that would hav helped.... dont know a thing.... besides there is also the "genuine" quality factor of the oils i hav 2 get....

                          Originally posted by RanjithMN View Post
                          This must be happening to atleast 95% of us.
                          The dealers arent patient to abide by run-in.They WILL trash your machine.They wont waste time taking your bike for registration riding @ 60.

                          On a casual chat i spoke to my friend @ a YAMAHA dealer about this and when i asked abt them abiding run-in,he just laughed.
                          Well before we learn to ride and maintain our new rides, i guess the people who are selling it to us need a good lesson in handling.... This is sad......

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                          • #14
                            Hi arnab aka papan 5069 ;-)....

                            I am from barrackpore..... Hav been only twice to wellington, for helmet and a basic gloves, was just a blind short visit.... Do u hav any number/ shop name known well for anything specific ? like good riding gloves, genuine engine oil , seat covers, etc ?

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                            • #15
                              @satadip
                              Congratulations on the right choice do upload some pics in RTR 180 ownership experience thread, U'll get lot of response for your questions & worries.
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