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  • #31
    Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
    Pretty disheartening to see this from a mature market-leading-sales company on their flagship model too . Upto now I have suffered only from their poor after-sales service . I am (now , was?) considering the kari hmmmm . You guys should take them to task for this ... considering that carbon-fiber and abs-polyethylene plastics used on cars & bikes can be easily made stronger than metal , and half as cheap too , neither are they selling karizmas for discount . Replacing fairings and panels etc parts yearly as a routine is not an acceptable pastime .
    Ever since it's introduction(2003 I guess) Karizma is known for the breakage of plastic material..The material is thick, but not pliable,and the underlying support is also few,which leads to breakasge on vibration of riding...
    I had overcome this by patching each of the broken joint with fiber glass repair and is holding on very well...
    So instead of going for expensive replacement which will again break, go for this..I had been requesting members to do this through many post to get rid of the problem...
    When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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    • #32
      IMO we love our bikes and would definitely take measures to ensure that the bike is in one piece. The option of fixing the broken parts is common and this step is taken by most of us.BUT WHY? Paying a premium and not getting half its worth is pathetic. Even fixing the parts repeatedly becomes a pain in the wrong place and eventually we have to change the parts.

      The point important here is that the quality of the plastic parts on the bike is deteriorating and the prices keep going up. The next catalyst that adds to the burning fire is the availability. I want the parts to be available off the shelf and don't intend to order parts and keep waiting. This is really sad of the "Worlds Largest motorcycle manufacturer". Millions of bikes on the road and no parts available.

      All aesthetic parts on the bike suffer in quality and build there is no doubt about that. I would not be surprised to see HONDA launching their original version of the ZMA soon and showing their Indian counterpart that NAKAL ke liye bhi "Akal" ki jaroorat hoti hain...
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      • #33
        Originally posted by DJ86 View Post
        Worst service from Hero Honda - Grahak Seva

        the response is overwhelming, please let it come from all the users.
        replied to it..
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        • #34
          just commented there me also owned karizma for 3 years my comment can be taken just opinion i can't claim anything now but still lot many Zma owners can get help nice initative.
          in between you bought your karizma on my birthday
          Last edited by RhythmRana99; 06-02-2011, 06:18 PM.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by psr View Post
            Ever since it's introduction(2003 I guess) Karizma is known for the breakage of plastic material..The material is thick, but not pliable,and the underlying support is also few,which leads to breakasge on vibration of riding...
            I had overcome this by patching each of the broken joint with fiber glass repair and is holding on very well...
            So instead of going for expensive replacement which will again break, go for this..I had been requesting members to do this through many post to get rid of the problem...
            That's a great idea psr'jee , how do you do it ? can you show us the repair process ? Would be of great help to all us bikers .. since most other bikes come with plastic parts ( a lot of it ) too and every biker suffers from cracked palstics . Then companies charge hefty prices or the replacment part is simply not available or not in that colour . Some times on a long trip we have no access to a repair/parts shop and have to do emergency field repairs .I have tried some repairs with two-part 24-hour setting epoxy adhesives ( fevitite / araldite /yamapoxy ) or sometimes even super-glue ( feviquick/anabond ) or duct tape but with mixed results . Mostly it does not hold for long . Everyone can do with a great repair tip anytime .
            Last edited by Pinaki; 06-02-2011, 11:36 PM.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
              That's a great idea psr'jee , how do you do it ? can you show us the repair process ? Would be of great help to all us bikers .. since most other bikes come with plastic parts ( a lot of it ) too and every biker suffers from cracked palstics . Then companies charge hefty prices or the replacment part is simply not available or not in that colour . Some times on a long trip we have no access to a repair/parts shop and have to do emergency field repairs .I have tried some repairs with two-part 24-hour setting epoxy adhesives ( fevitite / araldite /yamapoxy ) or sometimes even super-glue ( feviquick/anabond ) but with mixed results . Mostly it does not hold for long . Everyone can do with a great repair tip anytime .
              To morrow I will dismantle some panels of my ZMA and post pictures here..One of my friend who is into fiberglass molding occassionally helps me out, when he has the time.
              here are some useful links

              Fiberglass Repair Kit - Fiberglass Repair Kit Exporter, Importer, Trading Company, Mumbai, India

              Armor All 75098 Fiberglass Repair Kit | eBay

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              Last edited by psr; 06-02-2011, 11:47 PM.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Race_Developed View Post
                IMO we love our bikes and would definitely take measures to ensure that the bike is in one piece. The option of fixing the broken parts is common and this step is taken by most of us.BUT WHY? Paying a premium and not getting half its worth is pathetic. Even fixing the parts repeatedly becomes a pain in the wrong place and eventually we have to change the parts.

                The point important here is that the quality of the plastic parts on the bike is deteriorating and the prices keep going up. The next catalyst that adds to the burning fire is the availability. I want the parts to be available off the shelf and don't intend to order parts and keep waiting. This is really sad of the "Worlds Largest motorcycle manufacturer". Millions of bikes on the road and no parts available.

                All aesthetic parts on the bike suffer in quality and build there is no doubt about that. I would not be surprised to see HONDA launching their original version of the ZMA soon and showing their Indian counterpart that NAKAL ke liye bhi "Akal" ki jaroorat hoti hain...

                Honda has no such bike like karizma outside which hero honda has copied. even the engine of karizma is taken from CRF230 which is a dirt bike and its engine is striped down to 223cc for karizma.
                i'm not taking Hero honda side i also hate them
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                • #38
                  Facebook
                  https://www.facebook.com/pages/Hero-Honda-fools-Karizma-users/213786061985748


                  share your karizma experience over here too...
                  Last edited by DJ86; 06-03-2011, 02:21 PM. Reason: spelling mistake

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                  • #39
                    now everyone know how designers at HH, design plastic components. Hope they get another job, when hero motors takes the shutter down.

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                    • #40
                      I rode to Gopalaswamy Betta from Bangalore yesterday. Total trip meter was 460km. The bike was full on mud due to rains throughout. When I was washing I noticed the mud guard to be cracked near the screw joint!! WTF!! It was fine and after some riding the mug guard cracks!!
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by MAXzma View Post
                        I rode to Gopalaswamy Betta from Bangalore yesterday. Total trip meter was 460km. The bike was full on mud due to rains throughout. When I was washing I noticed the mud guard to be cracked near the screw joint!! WTF!! It was fine and after some riding the mug guard cracks!!
                        The mudguard,the side panel everywhere you look you will get cracks near their fixing place...even without any serious hit or vibes...they are programmed to self destruct...poor design which makes these fitting commit suicide.
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                        • #42
                          everyone who is facing same problem , please mail the same to [email protected]. CNBC hosts a show for consumer complaints. pls give a try.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by RhythmRana99 View Post
                            Honda has no such bike like karizma outside which hero honda has copied. even the engine of karizma is taken from CRF230 which is a dirt bike and its engine is striped down to 223cc for karizma.
                            i'm not taking Hero honda side i also hate them
                            Not that i meant CRF230 to be launched by Honda and we certainly are not talking about the engine capacity here.
                            I was referring to design of CBF 150 which has its base for the design of the ZMA. Since not for quite long ago HONDA and HERO were partners there is no question of design being "copied".Just for your reference, please see the VDO below !!!

                            YouTube - &#x202a;honda cbf 150&#x202c;&rlm;
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                            • #44
                              can anyone pls suggest a good mech/ service center where i can give my bike for tappet setting?? just 3 servicing are done, and 5300kms. is HH ASC reliable?? can the mechs over there do this. i had dropped my bike with PRATHAM motors, wakdewadi, pune twice for the same. but they just washed my bike and gave it back.
                              please suggest me, i stay in pune.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by DJ86 View Post
                                Hello friends,
                                i am facing a problem with my 6-7 months old karizma-R. just within such a small period of time, the plastics all over the bike have started getting cracked near screw fixings. when contacted showroom, they claim it to be accidental failure, misuse of bike. And they replied that it was not a manufacturing defect, and so cannot be replaced in warranty. There is no sign of crash on my bike. all rear cowls and tail light are cracked and hanging from the bike, just because of cracks near fixing screws.
                                I dont know, whom should i contact next? and what legal action can i take. it will be very helpful, if i get a guidance and help,support from XBHP.
                                Very unfortunate that this has happened and it's a pain for any owner. When tightened beyond certain limit a steel screw will make the plastics deform and crack. Some un-trained mechanic would have tightened too much and hence the plastic has failed. The logic is simple plastic is softer than steel and when steel is tightened the result is PLASTIC has to give way. There is no warranty for such cracks. This is purely overtightening case and has got nothing to do with quality of plastics.
                                Also some owners have tendency to 'feel' loose screws on plastic fitment and they tend to tighten them on their own w/o knowing the consequences. The screws that 'fit' plastic needs minimum force while tightening, and should never be overdone.

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