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**Noor** · 06-06-2011, 03:09 PM

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**pavan_cin** · 06-06-2011, 06:09 PM

I observed this thing in my bike also on first day. not exactly 5KMPH but it moved a little speed. I was not done any thing but at first service they adjusted my engine speed.

Can you confirm your cold and hot RPM's?

It should be in below range:
cold :- 900-1100
Hot :- 1300-1500

If you put your back tire on ground then bike not moved forward with this movemnet. If you feel more worry then just visit SVC and show and explain the issue

**thefastestindian** · 06-06-2011, 06:31 PM

I believe clutch is the culprit. these things happen when the clutch is not proper. Get it checked by the A.S.S

**vikram kumar** · 06-06-2011, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by ghosts View Post

I own a GS150R and it is 4months old till date. Recently I observed something abnormal in my bike. The rear tyre of my bike is rotating when it is in neutral gear and rested on a full stand. Is this a problem that should be dealt with? if yes, please let me know what is the thing thats creating this problem (this would be the reference when i got to tell the showroom person). Please see the video shared below to get a clear idea of the problem.

P.S.: if anyone alreay got this rectified, please let me know how I can rectify this...
I will post more info on this
Thanks in advance

Videos detailing the problem:
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YouTube - Broadcast Yourself

Thats quite wierd.

Unless the bike is in gear, the rear wheel shold not move on its own.
Also isnt the speed sensor generally connected to the front wheel??
So if the front wheel is not rotating, how is the display indicating 5Kmph speed?

Take it to the service center.
Dont know what exactly is causing the problem is but its better to get is corrected at the earliest.
Who knows, it might be a serious issue that may be dangerous while driving.
Good luck.

**mikey** · 06-06-2011, 06:42 PM

clutch plate is the problem, its slightly in engaged position even in neutral gear, happens in all new bought bikes, but wid ur bike itz a problem bcoz, d rear wheel of ur bike rotates bit faster, so get it checked soon

**princesirohi** · 06-06-2011, 06:49 PM

it is NOT a problem at all, it happens with most of the bikes. nothing wrong in it.

don't worry bro, it is normal.

try to observe other bikes, the rear wheel will rotate slightly. but if you remove from stand, bike will not move ahead.

**ranadipsg** · 06-06-2011, 09:26 PM

Put your bike on center stand making the rear float, engage first gear, leave clutch. Do not accelerate, the rear wheel will rotate at low speed. It is normal.
Because of idle rpm is not zero in any motorcycle, this happens.

**vikram kumar** · 06-06-2011, 09:27 PM

Originally posted by thefastestindian View Post

I believe clutch is the culprit. these things happen when the clutch is not proper. Get it checked by the A.S.S

Originally posted by mikey View Post

clutch plate is the problem, its slightly in engaged position even in neutral gear, happens in all new bought bikes, but wid ur bike itz a problem bcoz, d rear wheel of ur bike rotates bit faster, so get it checked soon

Guyz i dont think that the clutch is causing the problem as the bike is in neutral so even if you engage the clutch it shouldnt matter.

Originally posted by princesirohi View Post

it is NOT a problem at all, it happens with most of the bikes. nothing wrong in it.

don't worry bro, it is normal.

try to observe other bikes, the rear wheel will rotate slightly. but if you remove from stand, bike will not move ahead.

I dont know if its common but ideally the wheel should not rotate like that.
Better get it checked.

**Pinaki** · 06-06-2011, 10:22 PM

It is perfectly normal for all bikes with a wet clutch system , that it's rear wheel will spin while it is off the ground ( i.e on centre stand ), when gear is engaged , even if clutch is disengaged by depressing the lever . This happens because of something called Hydraulic Drag . There is nothing to worry about it . You should start to be worried if you can't stop the spin just by grabbing the tyre with one hand (without the engine dying) or if the engine-RPM climbs up when you do that . This drag-spin will be more prominent when the engine (oil) is cold .

What is novel in your case , is that you claim it does this while in neutral gear too

. Now that is a bit unusual though not impossible . Are you sure it was in neutral ? Check the green neutral light . If so compare it with other GS150R's and tell us .... Anyway , even then the spin should be slow and you should be able to stop it with just one hand mildly without killing the engine or it's rpm climbing up . If so , stop worrying about it .

**mazaid53** · 06-06-2011, 10:57 PM

i have faced this problem in my GS, first SC diagnosed it with misaligned output shaft, they just hammered it in a hope that the shaft will get aligned

the problem got solved for some 10-20 km n again same thing happened. within next 300km my bike gave me many more troubles and Suzuki engineer told me that my bike needs replacement of major engine internals.
They told me later that my bike's gearshaft was cracked and was causing wheel jam, and rotating in neutral position. All this was done under warranty, but my bike has never returned to it's original sweet form.

Tell SC people to check clutch & gearbox for proper free play. Adjust clutch for proper engage/ disengagement travel. If this doesn't solve your problem, check gearbox. check if rear wheel is free when engine is not running.
If rear wheel is not rotating free, simplest is rear brake is tight or there is problem with gearbox. I dont doubt any issue with rear wheel mountings or brake as you have mentioned that rear wheel rotates when engine is running in neutral.

**ghosts** · 06-10-2011, 10:12 PM

Originally posted by Pinaki View Post

It is perfectly normal for all bikes with a wet clutch system , that it's rear wheel will spin while it is off the ground ( i.e on centre stand ), when gear is engaged , even if clutch is disengaged by depressing the lever . This happens because of something called Hydraulic Drag . There is nothing to worry about it . You should start to be worried if you can't stop the spin just by grabbing the tyre with one hand (without the engine dying) or if the engine-RPM climbs up when you do that . This drag-spin will be more prominent when the engine (oil) is cold .

What is novel in your case , is that you claim it does this while in neutral gear too

. Now that is a bit unusual though not impossible . Are you sure it was in neutral ? Check the green neutral light . If so compare it with other GS150R's and tell us .... Anyway , even then the spin should be slow and you should be able to stop it with just one hand mildly without killing the engine or it's rpm climbing up . If so , stop worrying about it .

Please check the video(youtube Link) that I have posted on the 1st post. The bike is in Neutral Gear i`m sure

**ghosts** · 06-10-2011, 10:15 PM

Originally posted by mazaid53 View Post

i have faced this problem in my GS, first SC diagnosed it with misaligned output shaft, they just hammered it in a hope that the shaft will get aligned

the problem got solved for some 10-20 km n again same thing happened. within next 300km my bike gave me many more troubles and Suzuki engineer told me that my bike needs replacement of major engine internals.
They told me later that my bike's gearshaft was cracked and was causing wheel jam, and rotating in neutral position. All this was done under warranty, but my bike has never returned to it's original sweet form.

Tell SC people to check clutch & gearbox for proper free play. Adjust clutch for proper engage/ disengagement travel. If this doesn't solve your problem, check gearbox. check if rear wheel is free when engine is not running.
If rear wheel is not rotating free, simplest is rear brake is tight or there is problem with gearbox. I dont doubt any issue with rear wheel mountings or brake as you have mentioned that rear wheel rotates when engine is running in neutral.

Even i`m facing the problem that you have quoted. They are literally plucking everything out of my bike and trying to put them back(unfortunately they couldn`t). I lost the smoothness in my bike.

**Pinaki** · 06-10-2011, 11:21 PM

While the wheel spins , are you able to stop it by your hand ( or foot ) ? Does the engine RPM falls , climbs or the engine dies out if you do that ?

**princesirohi** · 06-12-2011, 10:29 PM

well, just saw your video, how come speedometer is showing speed. isn't speedometer wire/cable connected to front wheel????

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